The Spurs Youth Thread – 2016/2017

rabbikeane · Jun 1, 2017

newbie said:
We are a bit sparse at under 19 level.

Alfie Whiteman was in previous squad, shame he's missed out this time around.
Kazaiah Sterling also could have been called up.

rabbikeane · Jun 1, 2017

Bulletspur said:
So what was the score vs Costa Rica?

Won 2-1, late penalty for CR. Everton's Ademola Lookman with both goals for England.
Both Onomah and Walker-Peters played well. Mexico waits in QF june 5th

IGSpur · Jun 1, 2017

rabbikeane said:
Alfie Whiteman was in previous squad, shame he's missed out this time around.
Kazaiah Sterling also could have been called up.

Whiteman has 'suffered' from hardly playing last season and travelling around with the first team

IGSpur · Jun 1, 2017

Toulon game where Tanganga starts for England on right of a back 3. Currently 4-1. I thought it started at 7:30 so watching from beginning. You can do the same or watch live here

IGSpur · Jun 1, 2017

IGSpur said:
Toulon game where Tanganga starts for England on right of a back 3. Currently 4-1. I thought it started at 7:30 so watching from beginning. You can do the same or watch live here

Aaannnnd it's gone

ardiles · Jun 1, 2017

danielneeds said:
I was hoping you were going to say Xabi Alonso! Haha...

When his play was described as 'elegant' , I was thinking of Socrates (ex-Brazil capt)

taidgh · Jun 1, 2017

Spurzinho said:
Got it! Gerrard towards the end of his career when he was playing deeper and taking the ball off the defenders and popping it about. Much more mobile than Carrick who tends to play from a much more restricted zone and less of a dribbler than Barkley who, even when he's playing the playmaker role, can't help himself but barging forward and creating confusion.

danielneeds said:
I was hoping you were going to say Xabi Alonso! Haha...

ardiles said:
When his play was described as 'elegant' , I was thinking of Socrates (ex-Brazil capt)

Good thing we won't have unrealistic expectations of the young lad then.

IGSpur · Jun 2, 2017

IGSpur said:
Here are most of em signing. Definitely remember seeing Lyons-Foster but must have been a vid.

Lyons-Foster

Luka Van der Bale · Jun 2, 2017

Spurzinho said:
Got it! Gerrard towards the end of his career when he was playing deeper and taking the ball off the defenders and popping it about. Much more mobile than Carrick who tends to play from a much more restricted zone and less of a dribbler than Barkley who, even when he's playing the playmaker role, can't help himself but barging forward and creating confusion.

Is his potential seen to be in the Carrick-Gerrard tier? Have you seen much of him?

BC11 · Jun 2, 2017

Spurzinho said:
The only one I can so for sure is a Gooner is Ogilvie, Eyoma's family are gooners I think but I can't say for sure that he is.

Sterling, KWP & Tsaroulla too.

Spurzinho · Jun 2, 2017

Luka Van der Bale said:
Is his potential seen to be in the Carrick-Gerrard tier? Have you seen much of him?

I've not seen a huge amount of him at all, just going off of a handful of U18 vids dotted around the place. He certainly isn't in their "class" no, when they were 18 they were already breaking into the first team and looking very good doing it. If we do bring him in, he'll join the U23's because its more about the ingredients that he has than the total package. We probably like him because he plays with his head up, he's got good feet, he has composure, decent balance, he takes up intelligent positions, always showing for the ball, his first instinct is always to stretch the play but he's not afraid of just circulating it if there's nothing on but he's always keeping that ball moving and in so doing he keeps the opposition shifting to close down passing lanes, which frees up forward players. So while he doesn't always pay the killer pass he's doing the very important job of creating space for others with his probing. I'm not sure where a player like that fits into Poch's system but you can see why any club with a commitment to youth development would see something they like in him.

yanno · Jun 2, 2017

Bayliss sounds quite similar in playing style to Tashan Oakley-Boothe, one of our outstanding young prospects.

Who do the Academy watchers think is better at this point in time, and who has the most potential?

nightgoat · Jun 2, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
Did anyone else hear what Jenas had to say (on 5-live football daily - the one with Rose) about Sherwood's relationship with AVB. Pretty much bang on what many of us had assumed. Jenas said he was constantly in AVB's office getting angry and telling him who he should be putting in his squad on match days.

Rarely can you guess what goes down in football clubs so accurately as I'd have guessed (and have speculated on here many times) exactly how this went down. It's great that an academy director is pushing for the kids to be integrated, but there's doing things the right way then there's doing things the Sherwood way which, you can just imagine, just has the completely reverse effect and alienates those who you want to influence.

And he's a hypocrite as well, because once he'd introduced Bentaleb and he was playing well, as soon as his job started depending on it, he dropped him for no real reason despite his "I can trust him" bullshit.

Do you remember roughly how far into the programme it was?

Spurzinho · Jun 2, 2017

yanno said:
Bayliss sounds quite similar in playing style to Tashan Oakley-Boothe, one of our outstanding young prospects.

Who do the Academy watchers think is better at this point in time, and who has the most potential?

Bayliss is somewhere between the more dynamic TOB and the more defensive Oliver Skipp.

yanno · Jun 2, 2017

Spurzinho said:
Bayliss is somewhere between the more dynamic TOB and the more defensive Oliver Skipp.

Thanks. Both TOB and Skipp are great prospects, so we can only assume that Poch and McDermott believe in competition.

I note that the Josh Onomah we've seen in the U20 World Cup has shown clear signs of Poch coaching, playing as a much more disciplined deep-lying CM with improved defensive positioning.

If that means Onomah and Winks will both be in the mix for CM positions next season, rather than the wide AM position where Poch played Josh last season, then we're getting some serious depth in central midfield.

garryparkerschest · Jun 2, 2017

yanno said:
Thanks. Both TOB and Skipp are great prospects, so we can only assume that Poch and McDermott believe in competition.

I note that the Josh Onomah we've seen in the U20 World Cup has shown clear signs of Poch coaching, playing as a much more disciplined deep-lying CM with improved defensive positioning.

If that means Onomah and Winks will both be in the mix for CM positions next season, rather than the wide AM position where Poch played Josh last season, then we're getting some serious depth in central midfield.

I think so, hence with Dier there as well we possibly don't need anyone for those positions.

We need to concentrate on possibly a full back and the attacking midfield area.

Bus-Conductor · Jun 2, 2017

nightgoat said:
Do you remember roughly how far into the programme it was?

I don't, sorry.

Danny1 · Jun 2, 2017

I keep hearing Skipps name mentioned and yet I know nothing about the young lad, would someone mind giving me the info on what type of player he is, thanks!

Also, regarding Jack Roles, with the stats posted the other day when he signed his new deal, why isn't he talked about in the same way as the likes of Edwards, TOB etc

Spurzinho · Jun 2, 2017

Danny1 said:
I keep hearing Skipps name mentioned and yet I know nothing about the young lad, would someone mind giving me the info on what type of player he is, thanks!

Also, regarding Jack Roles, with the stats posted the other day when he signed his new deal, why isn't he talked about in the same way as the likes of Edwards, TOB etc

For Skipp think someone like Lucas Leiva at Pool. A defensively solid recycler. Can drop into CB if need be (not the tallest though), can play slightly further forward as balance to a more offensive central partner.

Roles isn't flashy like Edwards and he's not dynamic like TOB, he's very much someone who plays a fairly simple game linking things up and just has a habbit of making perfectly time late runs into the box & despite not being huge he seems to have a good leap on him which makes him a threat at set-pieces. He's the sort of player its easy for oppositions to overlook and 90 minutes later he's got a hatrick.

Spurzinho · Jun 2, 2017

Addendum: In a lot of ways Roles reminds me of Kane, not in style but in development. Not a stand out, not exceptional in any particular department but just always seems to have a good game whilst not making headlines.

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