Tottenham v Asteras Tripolis - Match Thread

JAYSTAR · Oct 24, 2014

I don't mind playing two set teams for pl and europa, its just difficult atm because of our rightback injuries. I would play the following two teams for now and keep the defences together for each competition. I have Chiriches at rb but honestly would rather convert lennon to temporary right back cover (yedlin in asap) and keep the teams together than keep changing the partnerships all the time:

Pl and cup:

Lloris
naughton kaboul vertongen rose
Capoue Mason
Lamela Kane Eriksen
Soldado

Europa / league cup

Lloris / Vorm
Chiriches Dier Fazio Davies
Stambouli Bentaleb
Townsend Dembele Lennon
Adebayor

0-Tibsy-0 · Oct 24, 2014

JAYSTAR said:
I don't mind playing two set teams for pl and europa, its just difficult atm because of our rightback injuries. I would play the following two teams for now and keep the defences together for each competition. I have Chiriches at rb but honestly would rather convert lennon to temporary right back cover (yedlin in asap) and keep the teams together than keep changing the partnerships all the time:

Pl and cup:

Lloris
naughton kaboul vertongen rose
Capoue Mason
Lamela Kane Eriksen
Soldado

Europa / league cup

Lloris / Vorm
Chiriches Dier Fazio Davies
Stambouli Bentaleb
Townsend Dembele Lennon
Adebayor

Poor Chadli. Feels all left out.

WalkerboyUK · Oct 24, 2014

WalkerboyUK said:
Well I've seen enough... So bored of watching us these days. Nothing to get excited about.
Now watching some dog programme with Paul O'Grady instead

I must just point out that I stopped watching BEFORE Lamela's goal. It just took me a few mins to post on here, which makes it look odd when surrounded by "What a goal" posts.
Also, I did watch the second half.

Oh and defensively were were a shambles. Still playing the high line, and if a mid-table Greek side can get in on goal so many times, a half-decent Premiership side will be rubbling their hands together at the prospect of facing us.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Oct 24, 2014

WalkerboyUK said:
I must just point out that I stopped watching BEFORE Lamela's goal. It just took me a few mins to post on here, which makes it look odd when surrounded by "What a goal" posts.
Also, I did watch the second half.

Oh and defensively were were a shambles. Still playing the high line, and if a mid-table Greek side can get in on goal so many times, a half-decent Premiership side will be rubbling their hands together at the prospect of facing us.

Playing a high line is fine if you have coherent pressing from midfield and the attacking players. Plus we've got one of the worlds best sweeper keepers.

I don't see why so many of you are against it.

dagraham · Oct 24, 2014

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
Playing a high line is fine if you have coherent pressing from midfield and the attacking players. Plus we've got one of the worlds best sweeper keepers.

I don't see why so many of you are against it.

I'm not against it per se, but we don't need to play it in every game and every situation. The best teams can play different ways.

Bobbins · Oct 24, 2014

beats1 said:
The thing is, even when he has started this season as striker he got a shit load of abuse, kane uses the strikers to create pockets of space for himself.

He has been tried there alot and it hasn't worked out, Leicester loans were a testament to that

Going through the match thread and keep coming across these posts beats - I agree that Kane isn't a number 9 (though he can play there perfectly well) and is definitely better playing off a traditional 9 like Sheringham with Shearer.

But the idea that he's an advanced CM and because he played there at Millwall this proves it is mad. He was completely played out of position for his first 8-10 games for Millwall, getting played in CM and on the wing. He wasn't very impressive and it was only when he was played up front off the shoulder of Darius Henderson that he came good and scored a hatful of goals.

He's not a number 9, he's a number 10 or second striker. But he sure as hell ain't a CM either and never has been. He'd work really well either in Eriksen's position or playing off someone like Bony or Benteke.

HotspurFC1950 · Oct 24, 2014

CosmicHotspur said:
Ok guys (and girls) admit it. Who tried to do a rabona after that goal?

I did.

Cos !

SteveH · Oct 24, 2014

Great hat-trick from Harry
Lamela - loved 'the' goal Flashy little bugger. The second was not bad - I want to see more!
Was impressed with Fazio big time.
But (yeah there is always a but)
Asteras were excellent attacking from midfield and we could not cope at all.
Not sure who should have been stopping these excellent moves from Asteras, probably Capoue and Dembele They didn't!.

Why did Lloris rush out we were 5-0 up for christ sake.

Pochettino is the man - he looked like I fealt. Great result but a defensive road crash waiting to happen.

HotspurFC1950 · Oct 24, 2014

This "rabona" is not a difficult skill at all. It's having the mental state to do it on the big stage which is the key.

0-Tibsy-0 · Oct 24, 2014

HotspurFC1950 said:
This "rabona" is not a difficult skill at all. It's having the mental state to do it on the big stage which is the key.

It's not 'difficult' (for a skillfil pro) when you have control of the ball and therefore time to set yourself up, or are moving with the ball. To hit it first time as the ball is coming across you and the timing and technique that is needed to generate the power, direction and curl, well that makes an impressive skill into a bloody difficult one. And that is without talking about, as you point out, the mentality and the instinctivness/quick thinking.

Blackcanary · Oct 24, 2014

SteveH said:
Great hat-trick from Harry
Lamela - loved 'the' goal Flashy little bugger. The second was not bad - I want to see more!
Was impressed with Fazio big time.
But (yeah there is always a but)
Asteras were excellent attacking from midfield and we could not cope at all.
Not sure who should have been stopping these excellent moves from Asteras, probably Capoue and Dembele They didn't!.

Why did Lloris rush out we were 5-0 up for christ sake.

Pochettino is the man - he looked like I fealt. A defensive road crash

I bloody loved that little chip for the fifth goal. Who knew he had that in his locker?

I woke up thinking about this match and smiling.

That goal. A hat-trick from an academy boy. The Spursy high farce of the ending. Epic stuff.

It's wonderful being reminded about just why you love football.

SteveH · Oct 24, 2014

0-Tibsy-0 said:
It's not 'difficult' (for a skillfil pro) when you have control of the ball and therefore time to set yourself up, or are moving with the ball. To hit it first time as the ball is coming across you and the timing and technique that is needed to generate the power, direction and curl, well that makes an impressive skill into a bloody difficult one. And that is without talking about, as you point out, the mentality and the instinctiveness/quick thinking.

More habit!

Erik need to to be on auto pilot. If he has time to think it is when troubles start.

shelfboy68 · Oct 24, 2014

The thing that intrigues me with the high line is why are we still having trouble with it as we have been playing it when avb came in two seasons ago yet still cant play it effectivley.
I have read on here that the midfield doesnt press sufficiently in order for the system to work so My question is why when most of the personel has been here since the avb days is it still not working.
Do we have the wrong players if so why or do we adopt a system that fits Our players and Works for us because our defence was shit last night saved only by some great goals and the fact they couldnt finish it was slightly flattering.

dagraham · Oct 24, 2014

shelfboy68 said:
The thing that intrigues me with the high line is why are we still having trouble with it as we have been playing it when avb came in two seasons ago yet still cant play it effectivley.
I have read on here that the midfield doesnt press sufficiently in order for the system to work so My question is why when most of the personel has been here since the avb days is it still not working.
Do we have the wrong players if so why or do we adopt a system that fits Our players and Works for us because our defence was shit last night saved only by some great goals and the fact they couldnt finish it was slightly flattering.

It would help if we still had Ledley or if any of our CB's were quick. But they're not. Fazio is marginally quicker than Dawson, Vertonghen isn't the quickest, nor is Chriches and although Kaboul is quick over a longer distance, since his injury he is actually becoming slower and slower on the turn.

shelfboy68 · Oct 24, 2014

dagraham said:
It would help if we still had Ledley or if any of our CB's were quick. But they're not. Fazio is marginally quicker than Dawson, Vertonghen isn't the quickest, nor is Chriches and although Kaboul is quick over a longer distance, since his injury he is actually becoming slower and slower on the turn.

I suppose your right maybe poch will look for a quicker center back to help with this.

tiger666 · Oct 24, 2014

HotspurFC1950 said:
This "rabona" is not a difficult skill at all.

Tell that to my knees.

DuDe · Oct 24, 2014

Highlights. Nice angle of Erik's effort and Harry's 'Goalkeeping' too.

Enjoy!

(y)

longtimespur · Oct 24, 2014

Enjoyed the match last night. Some amazing moments especially Lamela's 2 goals. good on him. (y)

Kane is becoming a striker as well as a #10. 3 goals all different.
Long shot, then a ricochet from the keeper and lastly a header. Good on him too. (y)

Lloris good as ever when needed and was last too often.
MrP's interview told a lot. Good on him as well. (y)

Defensive team play was dire and that includes the 2 MFs and the wide forwards (n)

Some good play up top and some real crap at the back.
Usual night for us long time Spurs fans :LOL:

chinaman · Oct 24, 2014

Aside from his hattrick, another thing to like Harry Kane is his guts to go into goal when Lloris was sent off.

beats1 · Oct 24, 2014

Bobbins said:
Going through the match thread and keep coming across these posts beats - I agree that Kane isn't a number 9 (though he can play there perfectly well) and is definitely better playing off a traditional 9 like Sheringham with Shearer.

But the idea that he's an advanced CM and because he played there at Millwall this proves it is mad. He was completely played out of position for his first 8-10 games for Millwall, getting played in CM and on the wing. He wasn't very impressive and it was only when he was played up front off the shoulder of Darius Henderson that he came good and scored a hatful of goals.

He's not a number 9, he's a number 10 or second striker. But he sure as hell ain't a CM either and never has been. He'd work really well either in Eriksen's position or playing off someone like Bony or Benteke.

Bobbins what you on about.

I never said he was a CM, I said he has played there more than the lone man role where Obika more often played.

He played there for Millwall and for the U21's, I agree with your post but the fact is he has spent time at CM, its not his position but the club does like to move players about. Carroll was also a striker at 16 he isn't anymore

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