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teok

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Fucking gooners were all celebrating our victory last night because we have benfica just before the NLD.
 

Curtis Peterson

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I'm not too worried. We don't have any serious injuries and most of the squad should be available through March. We have plenty of depth to deal with Europa and the league.
 

teok

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But if we cant perform and be up for that game despite having EL a few games before then the players ought to be ashamed of themselves.

It's got nothing to do with "effort" it's simply down to how the body works. No amount of money or effort makes it recover quicker.
 

mark87

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It's got nothing to do with "effort" it's simply down to how the body works. No amount of money or effort makes it recover quicker.

But it'll be the same if we make champions league, play Wednesday then Saturday. I don't buy into the 'can't play 2 games in a week' nonsense, they are professional athletes being paying tens of thousands a week. Just my onion.
 

teok

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But it'll be the same if we make champions league, play Wednesday then Saturday. I don't buy into the 'can't play 2 games in a week' nonsense, they are professional athletes being paying tens of thousands a week. Just my onion.


Ok you seem to be misunderstanding the idea. The human body recovers at a certain rate. The only way you can increase this recovery is with illegal drugs. It doesn't matter if the person is paid £100 grand a week or £1 a week or what "effort" they put in.

A team that has had a weeks rest vs a team that had a few days rest has a good advantage all the stats back this up there isn't really any debate on the matter.
 

Grey Fox

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I just don't get this can't play two games a week crap.

1) There is no difference in recovery time from playing Wednesday and then Saturday and playing Thursday and then Sunday

2) Before Sky came along the Old first division had 22 teams, the League cup had two legs and there were replays in the FA cup so teams were often playing 60+ games a season.

3) The pitches in those days were no better than ploughed fields and players went down the pub after a game and had fish and chip suppers

4) Food and physical science has come on light years since then

5) travel to foreign places took twice as long and even travel in this country has changed so much, I can remember catching the same train as the players to Newcastle on the morning of the game !

6) We have much bigger squads now and can use up to three subs with seven on the bench, thye used to be lucky to have 14/15 first team squads.

Just one other thing for those that think the Europa cup is worthless, ask the Napoli players if they think that, did you see the panic in their eyes when Swansea were going through? There is a f****** big echo sound in our trophy cabinet
 

beats1

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I just don't get this can't play two games a week crap.

1) There is no difference in recovery time from playing Wednesday and then Saturday and playing Thursday and then Sunday

2) Before Sky came along the Old first division had 22 teams, the League cup had two legs and there were replays in the FA cup so teams were often playing 60+ games a season.

3) The pitches in those days were no better than ploughed fields and players went down the pub after a game and had fish and chip suppers

4) Food and physical science has come on light years since then

5) travel to foreign places took twice as long and even travel in this country has changed so much, I can remember catching the same train as the players to Newcastle on the morning of the game !

6) We have much bigger squads now and can use up to three subs with seven on the bench, thye used to be lucky to have 14/15 first team squads.

Just one other thing for those that think the Europa cup is worthless, ask the Napoli players if they think that, did you see the panic in their eyes when Swansea were going through? There is a f****** big echo sound in our trophy cabinet
Not strictly true as in the CL you would be in a country that is closer to home whereas with Europa you have a flight from Eastern Europe. Depending how far you are you could lose a day because you get back late after leaving straight away and arriving early in the morning or because you arrive half way through the next day, so those didnt play, miss a day of training
 

Grey Fox

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Not strictly true as in the CL you would be in a country that is closer to home whereas with Europa you have a flight from Eastern Europe. Depending how far you are you could lose a day because you get back late after leaving straight away and arriving early in the morning or because you arrive half way through the next day, so those didnt play, miss a day of training

Last time I looked there are/were teams from Eastern Europe in the CL too
 

Lennon1981

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Not strictly true as in the CL you would be in a country that is closer to home whereas with Europa you have a flight from Eastern Europe. Depending how far you are you could lose a day because you get back late after leaving straight away and arriving early in the morning or because you arrive half way through the next day, so those didnt play, miss a day of training

Plus that every other game in the CL is on a Tuesday so it's not everytime you play in the champions league that you only have 2 days between.
 

robbiedee

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Now I'm not a doctor or a scientist but I reckon If the team played better, they wouldn't have to try as hard and therefore be fresher for Sundays :whistle:
 

hodsgod

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Not strictly true as in the CL you would be in a country that is closer to home whereas with Europa you have a flight from Eastern Europe. Depending how far you are you could lose a day because you get back late after leaving straight away and arriving early in the morning or because you arrive half way through the next day, so those didnt play, miss a day of training
This is the biggest issue. Distance is far greater in EL.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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But it'll be the same if we make champions league, play Wednesday then Saturday. I don't buy into the 'can't play 2 games in a week' nonsense, they are professional athletes being paying tens of thousands a week. Just my onion.

Your onion is wrong.

Maintaining peak physical condition is a complex science
 

TheGreenLily

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I just don't get this can't play two games a week crap.

1) There is no difference in recovery time from playing Wednesday and then Saturday and playing Thursday and then Sunday

2) Before Sky came along the Old first division had 22 teams, the League cup had two legs and there were replays in the FA cup so teams were often playing 60+ games a season.

3) The pitches in those days were no better than ploughed fields and players went down the pub after a game and had fish and chip suppers

4) Food and physical science has come on light years since then

5) travel to foreign places took twice as long and even travel in this country has changed so much, I can remember catching the same train as the players to Newcastle on the morning of the game !

6) We have much bigger squads now and can use up to three subs with seven on the bench, thye used to be lucky to have 14/15 first team squads.

Just one other thing for those that think the Europa cup is worthless, ask the Napoli players if they think that, did you see the panic in their eyes when Swansea were going through? There is a f****** big echo sound in our trophy cabinet

Completely agree and one of the reasons why Harry got up my backup.

I completely hated him for the lack of respect he gave the EUFA cup, disgraceful. If we win this, it would be a mental achievement in a troubled year and all these fans that have been moaning about being in it, will down the pub giving it large or were ever.

Yes the cup could be better managed, but it is still a European trophy and one I am desperate to win.
 
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Geyzer Soze

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Not strictly true as in the CL you would be in a country that is closer to home whereas with Europa you have a flight from Eastern Europe. Depending how far you are you could lose a day because you get back late after leaving straight away and arriving early in the morning or because you arrive half way through the next day, so those didnt play, miss a day of training
Thats not true, it totally depends who qualifies!

in the Europa league you could be playing Lyon or Nice or Benfica or any number of teams close to home.

In the CL you could be playing Olympiakos, Galatasarty, CSKA Moscow, Zenit, Staue, Shaktar ... any number of teams just as far if not further from home.
 
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