Spurs 4-2 Reading U21s - report from Lamex Stadium

[mawspurs]

Etienne Capoue and Jan Vertonghen returned from injury and played their part as our Under-21s completed their Barclays U21 Premier League campaign

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[nightgoat]

Jan's actually smiling!

 

[Sweetsman]

Does this mean that either of them will play before the end of the season? Who knows, maybe Erik the Absent may play sometime, because he's better than Lennon and Townsend.

 

[nightgoat]

Lamela won't play until Sherwood's gone. Soldado won't get another game this season unless Adebayor gets a ban. Wouldn't bank on Capoue getting picked ahead of our fearsome central midfield pairing of Paulinho and Chadli, either.

 

[greaves]

Jan's actually smiling!

Elastic bands and collagen.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Lamela won't play until Sherwood's gone. Soldado won't get another game this season unless Adebayor gets a ban. Wouldn't bank on Capoue getting picked ahead of our fearsome central midfield pairing of Paulinho and Chadli, either.

Sherwood announced quite a while ago that Lamela wouldn't play again this season. With the strike rate of Ade and Kane of late no manager would drop either player with just two games to play and the last time i checked we are odds on to finish with almost the same amount of points as last season.

Our "fearsome midfield" also helped the team keep a clean sheet and contributed towards handing Stoke only their second defeat at home since the New Year (against Liverpool). In fact it was the first time since December that Stoke have failed to score at home. I think the whole team deserves some credit for that fact irrespective of who plays in midfield.

 

[avonspurs]

Lamela won't play until Sherwood's gone. Soldado won't get another game this season unless Adebayor gets a ban. Wouldn't bank on Capoue getting picked ahead of our fearsome central midfield pairing of Paulinho and Chadli, either.

You're right, of course. But, hey, as some other posters will continue to emphasis, Stoke didn't score yesterday so it's all good....oh, except WBA managed to score 3 against that same midfield pairing but lets ignore that......

 

[bigspurs]

You're right, of course. But, hey, as some other posters will continue to emphasis, Stoke didn't score yesterday so it's all good....oh, except WBA managed to score 3 against that same midfield pairing but lets ignore that......

It was good to beat Stoke away, especially with their disgraceful fans etc. However we played absolute toilet and somehow managed to get away with it. I really do hope that we start playing decent football again next season, cause it ain't that pretty these nowadays!

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

You're right, of course. But, hey, as some other posters will continue to emphasis, Stoke didn't score yesterday so it's all good....oh, except WBA managed to score 3 against that same midfield pairing but lets ignore that......

I mean why isn't a win worth celebrating, without the need to pull part of the team apart on their own Spurs Community?

That same midfield who were 3-0 down at WBA fought back for a point by the way, and why isn't "nil" away at Stoke good enough for you?

As i said we stopped Stoke scoring for the first time at home since December something that Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Ure failed to do.

Just what would it take for you to be happy with a Spurs away win?

 

[nightgoat]

Sherwood announced quite a while ago that Lamela wouldn't play again this season. With the strike rate of Ade and Kane of late no manager would drop either player with just two games to play and the last time i checked we are odds on to finish with almost the same amount of points as last season.

If you think Adebayor's been undroppable for the last couple of months you must have been watching different games than everyone else.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

If you think Adebayor's been undroppable for the last couple of months you must have been watching different games than everyone else.

Ade has scored over the past "couple of months":

The winner against Everton (3pts)
Two against Newcastle away (3pts)
Two against Dnipro an EL win
Two against Sunderland including the equaliser (3pts)

I would like to think that he has contributed directly towards one of those wins and has put us level in one and ahead in another.

Can i say that by dropping him over the past couple of months (as you have said) Spurs would have won or drawn those games above i do not know. I do know that he contributed to those nine points that we have gained over the last possible twenty seven that were available. I have not checked out any assists that he may have made?. Not a bad return in my opinion, plus his goals against Dnipro did help take the club to the quarter finals of the EL.

But on that form dropping Ade and starting Soldado would not have been the answer, unless you had another striker in mind?.

I'd take Ade on current form. But as you say, i must have been watching different games to everyone else.

 

[beuller]

I am pretty sure I used to disagree with every word you wrote gaz gammon, now my thumb seems to be automatically drawn towards the agree button for all your posts....

Does not feel right.

 

[browndchl]

Does Bentalabs' red card for the U21s result in a ban from all levels of football?

 

[nightgoat]

Ade has scored over the past "couple of months":

The winner against Everton (3pts)
Two against Newcastle away (3pts)
Two against Dnipro an EL win
Two against Sunderland including the equaliser (3pts)

You see there you've just perfectly illustrated my point. In the last eleven games since Dnipro at the end of February (i.e. the last couple of months) Adebayor has scored just two goals - those against Sunderland which, let's be honest, anyone could have scored. Compared with his eleven in the previous fourteen games since Sherwood took over, you can clearly see that his form has dropped. He's also looked at times tired, lazy and uninterested in a lot of games. See for example him giving the ball away then giving up in the lead up to Fulham's penalty. He could easily have left us down to ten men for most of the game against Stoke.

On the other hand, since scoring against Cardiff Soldado was immediately dropped. He's subsequently had whole 90 minutes against Southampton (where he made Eriksen's equaliser) then away at Liverpool where the whole team was shit and we created so, so many chances for a lone striker. Since then he's had twelve minutes as a sub against Fulham.

Are you trying to suggest that Soldado could not have scored or created chances, or would have offered less work rate than Adebayor starting against the likes of Sunderland, West Brom, Fulham and Stoke?

But no, Adebayor is Sherwood's 'achievement'. He's obviously his favourite player as besides 'the goalie' he considers him to be our only world class player and as such he has become undroppable despite his clearly diminishing form.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

You see there you've just perfectly illustrated my point. In the last eleven games since Dnipro at the end of February (i.e. the last couple of months) Adebayor has scored just two goals - those against Sunderland which, let's be honest, anyone could have scored. Compared with his eleven in the previous fourteen games since Sherwood took over, you can clearly see that his form has dropped. He's also looked at times tired, lazy and uninterested in a lot of games. See for example him giving the ball away then giving up in the lead up to Fulham's penalty. He could easily have left us down to ten men for most of the game against Stoke.

On the other hand, since scoring against Cardiff Soldado was immediately dropped. He's subsequently had whole 90 minutes against Southampton (where he made Eriksen's equaliser) then away at Liverpool where the whole team was shit and we created so, so many chances for a lone striker. Since then he's had twelve minutes as a sub against Fulham.

Are you trying to suggest that Soldado could not have scored or created chances, or would have offered less work rate than Adebayor starting against the likes of Sunderland, West Brom, Fulham and Stoke?

But no, Adebayor is Sherwood's 'achievement'. He's obviously his favourite player as besides 'the goalie' he considers him to be our only world class player and as such he has become undroppable despite his clearly diminishing form.

After reading your reply it's clear that your not against playing Ade, just the fact that Sherwood brought him back to be our leading scorer. The team should be selected on form of which Soldado has none and has not impressed all season.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

I am pretty sure I used to disagree with every word you wrote gaz gammon, now my thumb seems to be automatically drawn towards the agree button for all your posts....

Does not feel right.

The cheque's in the post.....

If we all agreed with each other all the time then this would be a poor fans forum. I agree with a the vast majority of views posted on here, but i just cannot stand back and say nothing when falsehoods are used to deride a plyer, coach or manager.

Hell, even i get things wrong sometimes....just don't expect me to admit it.

 

[nightgoat]

After reading your reply it's clear that your not against playing Ade, just the fact that Sherwood brought him back to be our leading scorer. The team should be selected on form of which Soldado has none and has not impressed all season.

You're still not getting the point.

You're right that I'm not against Adebayor being involved in the team - no one can deny the impact he's had since being brought back into the team or the goals he's scored.

But if the team is selected on form you also cannot deny that Adebayor's form over the last couple of months has deteriorated. Considering that Sherwood has dropped Soldado having gone a mere two games without a goal (albeit creating a goal through chasing a lost cause which most players wouldn't have) and only been given 12 minutes since then it seems obvious to me that the selection criteria are not the same for the two strikers. If it were then Adebayor would have been dropped to the bench and Soldado given a chance. Not only would that benefit Soldado, but it would also give Adebayor a reminder that he is not guaranteed a place in the starting line up and he has to earn it through good performances.

 

[Ionman34]

You're still not getting the point.

You're right that I'm not against Adebayor being involved in the team - no one can deny the impact he's had since being brought back into the team or the goals he's scored.

But if the team is selected on form you also cannot deny that Adebayor's form over the last couple of months has deteriorated. Considering that Sherwood has dropped Soldado having gone a mere two games without a goal (albeit creating a goal through chasing a lost cause which most players wouldn't have) and only been given 12 minutes since then it seems obvious to me that the selection criteria are not the same for the two strikers. If it were then Adebayor would have been dropped to the bench and Soldado given a chance. Not only would that benefit Soldado, but it would also give Adebayor a reminder that he is not guaranteed a place in the starting line up and he has to earn it through good performances.

I'm quite surprised that Ade's assist for Rose's goal has been totally overlooked here.

It was a quality bit of work that created a very good goal.

Ade is still playing his part, just not as prolifically in the goal scoring department.