Harry Kane

[ralphs bald spot]

There was a moment in the second half when Son was racing in behind out wide with a chance to play the ball into the box, where Kane was only facing one defender.

Old Kane would have made a darting run to the near post for Sonny to slip a simple ball through - yesterday, he barely moved and just hid behind the defender.

Lack of desire - worrying.

Son had to release the ball he turned back ! Even if he doesn't 'find Kane the guy had to defend it - Kane must be tearing his hair out there are no crosses go into the box there is nothing to make runs for.. We continually turn inside its a nonsense. Kane is being fed on crumbs and even Alli who makes run into the box and gets on the end of things we just don't deliver and after a bit heh is is any great surprise that the runs dry up.

 

[markdadude]

I don't buy this lack of effort argument. He is so slow nowadays that no matter how good he is shooting with both feet, heading the ball etc. his every move will be anticipated and snuffed out. He has lost athleticism... massively, and at far too young an age. Has he gone vegan ffs?

Son is more greedy than ever before IMO. He opts to shoot himself rather than look for Kane because he doesn't trust him anymore. If Kane's body cannot recuperate to the level of a few years ago, then let's be honest everyone - he is finished as a top flight striker. It feels remarkably similar to what happened to Torres.

 

[Shadydan]

I don't buy this lack of effort argument. He is so slow nowadays that no matter how good he is shooting with both feet, heading the ball etc. his every move will be anticipated and snuffed out. He has lost athleticism... massively, and at far too young an age. Has he gone vegan ffs?

Son is more greedy than ever before IMO. He opts to shoot himself rather than look for Kane because he doesn't trust him anymore. If Kane's body cannot recuperate to the level of a few years ago, then let's be honest everyone - he is finished as a top flight striker. It feels remarkably similar to what happened to Torres.

Look at his press on the Sheffield United goal he barely broke out of a jog.

To give him the benefit of the doubt though I think he is still carrying the effects of last week but we've definitely seen this before.

Tbh I don't understand why he wasn't subbed for Lucas earlier.

 

[Joely]

He was done by 70 mins and needed replacing. Yes can always get you a goal but he was out on his feet and maybe not totally over the illness he had last week.

 

[markdadude]

Look at his press on the Sheffield United goal he barely broke out of a jog.

To give him the benefit of the doubt though I think he is still carrying the effects of last week but we've definitely seen this before.

Tbh I don't understand why he wasn't subbed for Lucas earlier.

Yes but on the occasions where he had the ball at his feet it was clear he was not just conserving his energy for these moments. His legs were still gone, and when that happens so does your touch/ balance/ everything you need in those situations. Virus maybe a contributing factor, but this has been going on for a long time.

Whoever is his nutritionist, he needs to get rid of them right now... that would be where I would start looking. If there's a problem with the body, there could be a nutritional problem. Or maybe he is clean, and the rest of football isn't!

 

[ralphs bald spot]

The man doesn't receive a decent ball all the game - there are problems with this team but sure as hell Kane ain't one of them

 

[king26]

The man doesn't receive a decent ball all the game - there are problems with this team but sure as hell Kane ain't one of them

agree

 

[isaac94]

I think Kane is the least of our problems atm, 10 in 14 in a team which is devoid of any confidence or service to him. Just because his not at his high peak, doesn't take away from that being some strike rate.

 

[jurgen]

I don't buy this lack of effort argument. He is so slow nowadays that no matter how good he is shooting with both feet, heading the ball etc. his every move will be anticipated and snuffed out. He has lost athleticism... massively, and at far too young an age. Has he gone vegan ffs?

Son is more greedy than ever before IMO. He opts to shoot himself rather than look for Kane because he doesn't trust him anymore. If Kane's body cannot recuperate to the level of a few years ago, then let's be honest everyone - he is finished as a top flight striker. It feels remarkably similar to what happened to Torres.

Fuck this place these days.. is he looking great, no, but finished as a top flight striker? What a load of absolute shit.

Kane has scored 6 so far in the league - 10 in total in 14 games. It took Torres nearly 70 games at Chelsea to score that many. So no, it doesn't feel remarkably similar whatsoever to what happened to Torres.

 

[isaac94]

I don't buy this lack of effort argument. He is so slow nowadays that no matter how good he is shooting with both feet, heading the ball etc. his every move will be anticipated and snuffed out. He has lost athleticism... massively, and at far too young an age. Has he gone vegan ffs?

Son is more greedy than ever before IMO. He opts to shoot himself rather than look for Kane because he doesn't trust him anymore. If Kane's body cannot recuperate to the level of a few years ago, then let's be honest everyone - he is finished as a top flight striker. It feels remarkably similar to what happened to Torres.

Similar to Torres, the man has 10 goals in 14, took Torres like 60 games to get that at Chelsea, way ott

 

[dagraham]

Kane’s game has definitely changed. He’s doesn’t seem as agile and as explosive as he used to be ( probably a combination of his constant ankle injuries and being overplayed for club and country).

He’s still a class act though and has developed his all round game.

It’s nothing like Torres though. Unlike Harry, Torres was always very quick and also unlike Harry when Torres went to Chelsea he couldn’t hit a barn door.

 

[theShiznit]

Kane was at his best when he ran his nuts off, never stopped harrying defenders and pressed from the front.

You can say it's down to lack of service, but HE was making things happen for himself and the team, it used to be that his shots would be around double figures for a game. (and rarely from great through balls or well crafted moves) Now he's lucky if his touches in a game reach double figures.
He lumbers about with his marker and has either lost the mobility (or worse, inclination) to lose them.

Even when he pulls wide now (which he used to do to great effect) he doesn't have the foot speed to get space to do anything with it. Can no longer manufacture shots from around the box, yes his passing (and range of) is good, which is a saving grace but i feel this evolution of his game is not a good one and certainly not one of choice.

Oh and he is as pedestrian for England too, but has speed all around him there to take players away.

Far too often i see times where play is advancing and Kane is not even looking to receive the ball, he is just jogging his marker further up the pitch.

In open games it's not a big problem but when teams defend in numbers against us he's not offering anywhere near enough.

I don't know what the answer is but something is badly off with Kane, and I'm not sure a new manager will have the answer...

 

[ljinko888]

Kane was at his best when he ran his nuts off, never stopped harrying defenders and pressed from the front.

You can say it's down to lack of service, but HE was making things happen for himself and the team, it used to be that his shots would be around double figures for a game. (and rarely from great through balls or well crafted moves) Now he's lucky if his touches in a game reach double figures.
He lumbers about with his marker and has either lost the mobility (or worse, inclination) to lose them.

Even when he pulls wide now (which he used to do to great effect) he doesn't have the foot speed to get space to do anything with it. Can no longer manufacture shots from around the box, yes his passing (and range of) is good, which is a saving grace but i feel this evolution of his game is not a good one and certainly not one of choice.

Oh and he is as pedestrian for England too, but has speed all around him there to take players away.

Far too often i see times where play is advancing and Kane is not even looking to receive the ball, he is just jogging his marker further up the pitch.

In open games it's not a big problem but when teams defend in numbers against us he's not offering anywhere near enough.

I don't know what the answer is but something is badly off with Kane, and I'm not sure a new manager will have the answer...

Kane is now resembling the description rival fans used to say for a few years in a bid to downplay him in their jealousy - a tap in and penalty merchant.

Now none of our rivals have reason to be jealous of Kane. This is not a guy who is anywhere "best striker in Europe" material now. He's not even the best English striker on this years form. I think it's something like 10 goals in open play for Spurs all year. Vardy and Abraham both have 10 league goals in open play just this season so far.

 

[DCSPUR]

Kane was at his best when he ran his nuts off, never stopped harrying defenders and pressed from the front.

You can say it's down to lack of service, but HE was making things happen for himself and the team, it used to be that his shots would be around double figures for a game. (and rarely from great through balls or well crafted moves) Now he's lucky if his touches in a game reach double figures.
He lumbers about with his marker and has either lost the mobility (or worse, inclination) to lose them.

Even when he pulls wide now (which he used to do to great effect) he doesn't have the foot speed to get space to do anything with it. Can no longer manufacture shots from around the box, yes his passing (and range of) is good, which is a saving grace but i feel this evolution of his game is not a good one and certainly not one of choice.

Oh and he is as pedestrian for England too, but has speed all around him there to take players away.

Far too often i see times where play is advancing and Kane is not even looking to receive the ball, he is just jogging his marker further up the pitch.

In open games it's not a big problem but when teams defend in numbers against us he's not offering anywhere near enough.

I don't know what the answer is but something is badly off with Kane, and I'm not sure a new manager will have the answer...

and yet he got back into the starting X1 for the CL final while being far from 100%...and reading between the lines of @Trix post he wants Poch out...and it is now trending across spurs social media so suspect the club will have to respond

 

[Shadydan]

Kane is now resembling the description rival fans used to say for a few years in a bid to downplay him in their jealousy - a tap in and penalty merchant.

Now none of our rivals have reason to be jealous of Kane. This is not a guy who is anywhere "best striker in Europe" material now. He's not even the best English striker on this years form. I think it's something like 10 goals in open play for Spurs all year. Vardy and Abraham both have 10 league goals in open play just this season so far.

Yet he's got 16 in 19 this season in all comps for Spurs and England.

 

[dtxspurs]

Yet he's got 16 in 19 this season in all comps for Spurs and England.

Wow, he must be playing amazingly.

 

[Shadydan]

Wow, he must be playing amazingly.

Yep that's definitely what I meant.

 

[ljinko888]

Yet he's got 16 in 19 this season in all comps for Spurs and England.

First of all the opposition England play against in Qualifiers are very low quality. Secondly and more importantly, six of those goals are penalties. He still has to put them away fair enough, but other players are matching or outscoring him without even taking penalties.

That's the point. 10 goals in open play is a shocking return for a guy who when remotely fit plays every minute of every game.

 

[Trix]

and yet he got back into the starting X1 for the CL final while being far from 100%...and according to @Trix wants Poch out

Woahhhh!!!! Be very careful, I haven't named any player and for very good reason. Speculating is one thing turning it into fact is another entirely.

 

[Shadydan]

First of all the opposition England play against in Qualifiers are very low quality. Secondly and more importantly, six of those goals are penalties. He still has to put them away fair enough, but other players are matching or outscoring him without even taking penalties.

That's the point. 10 goals in open play is a shocking return for a guy who when remotely fit plays every minute of every game.

The fact that he hasn't scored many in open play is synonymous with the way Spurs have been playing in the last year or so and it shows, anyway I think you're being harsh if you are just reducing his game to just tap ins and pens, his all round play has improved, his passing, his awareness, hold up play etc...the ball he played for Rose for Son's goal on Wednesday for example, these things tend to go unnoticed, it's in fact a lazy/ignorant analysis which is typical from a rival fan.