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Mourinho understands the transfer situation and insists he has squad nucleus for next five years

mawspurs

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Tottenham manager Jose Mourinho has acknowledged he may not get the players he wants in the next transfer window but insists he already has the nucleus of a squad for the next five years.

Source: Evening Standard
 

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Full quote: “So I would say that in three, four, five years’ time, the base of the team will still be around. Important players that are in the club now. That’s why I say we don’t need to make lots of changes. I believe we have an important nucleus of players. The process is important, where some faces are leaving, some faces are coming and you try to rebuild something. Teams don’t last forever, of course."


I doubt he really means this. But who is he talking about? Youth players? The way this squad has performed over the last 2yrs shows there are very few up to the task, let alone in 3, 4 or 5yrs time, and those who are - now - in the twilight of their career and won't (or shouldn't) be around much longer. The more you look at the squad, the bigger the task. There is, or will be soon, the need to make lots of changes. And if you aren't prepared to refresh an already-tired team then the even the most loyal players will start to look elsewhere, which means even more changes.
 

Springerding

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Oooo another five year plan, great, then he will leave us with an aging squad that will need re building all over again just like where we are at now because Levy never learns. till Enic pack up & leave we have nothing to look forward to.
 
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Full quote: “So I would say that in three, four, five years’ time, the base of the team will still be around. Important players that are in the club now. That’s why I say we don’t need to make lots of changes. I believe we have an important nucleus of players. The process is important, where some faces are leaving, some faces are coming and you try to rebuild something. Teams don’t last forever, of course."


I doubt he really means this. But who is he talking about? Youth players? The way this squad has performed over the last 2yrs shows there are very few up to the task, let alone in 3, 4 or 5yrs time, and those who are - now - in the twilight of their career and won't (or shouldn't) be around much longer. The more you look at the squad, the bigger the task. There is, or will be soon, the need to make lots of changes. And if you aren't prepared to refresh an already-tired team then the even the most loyal players will start to look elsewhere, which means even more changes.
Think you've got it here. If you compare this, say, with him coming out and suggesting he's selling x, y, z - headline becomes another 'Mourinho throws tantrum and players out with the bathwater' type story. I think in this instance, he is damned if does and damned if he doesn't.

Excuse making for a manager of Mourinho's calibre won't go down well on here, but, IMO, think he deserves slack in this department.
 

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Individually, we have some great players. Do we have a manager that can turn them into a team?
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Individually, we have some great players. Do we have a manager that can turn them into a team?
I agree with the sentiment, but don’t know whether Jose fits the bill. We can’t judge him yet - Klopp took a while and that was without a global pandemic.
 

greywizard2020

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My feeling is that Pochettino was an appointment in line with the philosophy, whereas Mourinho is a reactionary appointment. Much like how Mourinho's appointment at Man Utd felt like a response to Man City appointing Guardiola. The thinking being that Guardiola has won lots, but so has Mourinho.

I feel like Levy went with Mourinho because he's a legendary figure who carries a greater gravitas due to his career record. Mourinho has rightly earned such a storied reputation, but it feels like Levy abandoned the philosophy in the hope Mourinho would deliver.

Despite his reputation & the respect I have for him, I still don't believe he's the right appointment.

Pochettino's appointment seemed intelligent because he promotes from the academy, plays a high pressing attacking style & is able to coach good players & turn them into top-class players. Once that all started to decline with the Poch, for me, we ought to have looked at Julian Nagelsmann.

Nagelsmann fulfills the brief & would have been in line with the philosophy. The recruitment has also been poor. Levy seems to demand a King's ransom for everyone of our fringe players. It also seemed that the Poch would ignore the scouting recommendations, demanding the type of player we're never really going to have the budget for. It infuriates me that players like, Brooks, Maddison & Tielemens were available for decent money, but weren't purchased.

I feel that we could've have reached an agreement with RBL for Julian Nagelsmann & probably would have had to have waited until the summer to get him. In the meantime, in my opinion, we could've brought in club legends, Glenn Hoddle, as Interim Head Coach, with Chris Hughton as his assistant. Rene Meulensteen is a world-class coach & could have been brought in as first-team coach in the interim, as well.

I'll probably get pilloried for the above & so be it, its just my opinion, but I feel like Nagelsmann should've been the main man to have gone for. Hoddle could well even be moved into the Technical Director role, with his vast of the knowledge of the game, our club & desire to develop players.

All in all, a big reset button needs to be hit & we need to re-evaluate the identity of what the ideal Tottenham Hotspur player, should look like, whether that player is home-grown or recruited.

Something needs to be done because it just doesn't feel there's any real direction.
 
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Trix

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My feeling is that Pochettino was an appointment in line with the philosophy, whereas Mourinho is a reactionary appointment. Much like how Mourinho's appointment at Man Utd felt like a response to Man City appointing Guardiola. The thinking being that Guardiola has won lots, but so has Mourinho.

I feel like Levy went with Mourinho because he's a legendary figure who carries a greater gravitas due to his career record. Mourinho has rightly earned such storied reputation, but it feels like Levy abandoned the philosophy in the hope Mourinho would deliver.

Despite his reputation & the respect I have for him, I still don't believe he's the right appointment.

Pochettino's appointment seemed intelligent because he promotes from the academy, plays high pressing attacking style & is able coach good players & turn them into top-class players. Once that all started to decline with the Poch, for me, we ought to have looked at Julian Nagelsmann.

Nagelsmann fulfills the brief & would have been in line with the philosophy. The recruitment has also been poor. Levy seems to demand a King's ransom for everyone of our fringe players. It also seemed that the Poch would ignore the scouting recommendations, demanding the type of player we're never really going to have the budget for. It infuriates me that players like, Brooks, Maddison & Tielemens were available for decent money, but weren't purchased.

I feel that we could've have to an agreement with RBL for Julian Nagelsmann & probably would have had to have waited until the summer to get him. In the meantime, in my opinion, we could've brought in club legends, Glenn Hoddle, as Interim Head Coach, with Chris Hughton as his assistant. Rene Meulensteen is a world-class coach & could have been brought in as first-team coach in the interim, as well.

I'll probably get pilloried for the above & so be it, its just my opinion, but I feel like Nagelsmann should've been the main man to have gone for. Hoddle could well even be moved into the Technical Director role, with his vast of the knowledge of the game, our club & desire to develop players.

All in all, a big reset button needs to be hit & we need to re-evaluate the identity of what the ideal Tottenham Hotspur player, should look like, whether that player is home-grown or recruited.

Something needs to be done because it just doesn't feel there's any real direction.
He went with Mourinho because he wanted him a long time ago but couldn't get him then. Whether he is still the right fit now is the question.

He should be afforded some time to find out though.
 

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My feeling is that Pochettino was an appointment in line with the philosophy, whereas Mourinho is a reactionary appointment. Much like how Mourinho's appointment at Man Utd felt like a response to Man City appointing Guardiola. The thinking being that Guardiola has won lots, but so has Mourinho.

I feel like Levy went with Mourinho because he's a legendary figure who carries a greater gravitas due to his career record. Mourinho has rightly earned such storied reputation, but it feels like Levy abandoned the philosophy in the hope Mourinho would deliver.

Despite his reputation & the respect I have for him, I still don't believe he's the right appointment.

Pochettino's appointment seemed intelligent because he promotes from the academy, plays high pressing attacking style & is able coach good players & turn them into top-class players. Once that all started to decline with the Poch, for me, we ought to have looked at Julian Nagelsmann.

Nagelsmann fulfills the brief & would have been in line with the philosophy. The recruitment has also been poor. Levy seems to demand a King's ransom for everyone of our fringe players. It also seemed that the Poch would ignore the scouting recommendations, demanding the type of player we're never really going to have the budget for. It infuriates me that players like, Brooks, Maddison & Tielemens were available for decent money, but weren't purchased.

I feel that we could've have to an agreement with RBL for Julian Nagelsmann & probably would have had to have waited until the summer to get him. In the meantime, in my opinion, we could've brought in club legends, Glenn Hoddle, as Interim Head Coach, with Chris Hughton as his assistant. Rene Meulensteen is a world-class coach & could have been brought in as first-team coach in the interim, as well.

I'll probably get pilloried for the above & so be it, its just my opinion, but I feel like Nagelsmann should've been the main man to have gone for. Hoddle could well even be moved into the Technical Director role, with his vast of the knowledge of the game, our club & desire to develop players.

All in all, a big reset button needs to be hit & we need to re-evaluate the identity of what the ideal Tottenham Hotspur player, should look like, whether that player is home-grown or recruited.

Something needs to be done because it just doesn't feel there's any real direction.
Probably a moot point but Hoddle put himself out there as being willing to do the job before on a temporary basis but DL didn't go for it. You won't get pilloried - some people will agree with you, some won't - there is no shortage of people on here that don't think that Mourinho is suited to the task. It's pretty evident that we're not looking at a quick fix. Mourinho has acknowledged it and seems up for the task. History is not on his side in regard to long term projects BUT I wonder whether his final challenge is to show that he can manage a project and prove that he is a well-rounded manager. This is somewhat unfamiliar territory for him in that he is unused to a modest budget since Porto but he is relatively free from pressure and has the opportunity to be given carte blanche to do what he needs to do in terms of on the pitch.
 

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My feeling is that Pochettino was an appointment in line with the philosophy, whereas Mourinho is a reactionary appointment. Much like how Mourinho's appointment at Man Utd felt like a response to Man City appointing Guardiola. The thinking being that Guardiola has won lots, but so has Mourinho.

I feel like Levy went with Mourinho because he's a legendary figure who carries a greater gravitas due to his career record. Mourinho has rightly earned such storied reputation, but it feels like Levy abandoned the philosophy in the hope Mourinho would deliver.

Despite his reputation & the respect I have for him, I still don't believe he's the right appointment.

Pochettino's appointment seemed intelligent because he promotes from the academy, plays high pressing attacking style & is able coach good players & turn them into top-class players. Once that all started to decline with the Poch, for me, we ought to have looked at Julian Nagelsmann.

Nagelsmann fulfills the brief & would have been in line with the philosophy. The recruitment has also been poor. Levy seems to demand a King's ransom for everyone of our fringe players. It also seemed that the Poch would ignore the scouting recommendations, demanding the type of player we're never really going to have the budget for. It infuriates me that players like, Brooks, Maddison & Tielemens were available for decent money, but weren't purchased.

I feel that we could've have to an agreement with RBL for Julian Nagelsmann & probably would have had to have waited until the summer to get him. In the meantime, in my opinion, we could've brought in club legends, Glenn Hoddle, as Interim Head Coach, with Chris Hughton as his assistant. Rene Meulensteen is a world-class coach & could have been brought in as first-team coach in the interim, as well.

I'll probably get pilloried for the above & so be it, its just my opinion, but I feel like Nagelsmann should've been the main man to have gone for. Hoddle could well even be moved into the Technical Director role, with his vast of the knowledge of the game, our club & desire to develop players.

All in all, a big reset button needs to be hit & we need to re-evaluate the identity of what the ideal Tottenham Hotspur player, should look like, whether that player is home-grown or recruited.

Something needs to be done because it just doesn't feel there's any real direction.


I agree with you re Nagelsmann... and he would take the job to battle it out with the lines of Pep, Klopp et al...

I do however think Levy wanted Jose because he was hoping Jose would make teh team greater than the sum of its part which I think is misguided slightly.
 

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Andros Townsend practically said that Jose is key to Kane sticking around, I think that's another reason why Levy bought him in.
 

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Full quote: “So I would say that in three, four, five years’ time, the base of the team will still be around. Important players that are in the club now. That’s why I say we don’t need to make lots of changes. I believe we have an important nucleus of players. The process is important, where some faces are leaving, some faces are coming and you try to rebuild something. Teams don’t last forever, of course."


I doubt he really means this. But who is he talking about? Youth players? The way this squad has performed over the last 2yrs shows there are very few up to the task, let alone in 3, 4 or 5yrs time, and those who are - now - in the twilight of their career and won't (or shouldn't) be around much longer. The more you look at the squad, the bigger the task. There is, or will be soon, the need to make lots of changes. And if you aren't prepared to refresh an already-tired team then the even the most loyal players will start to look elsewhere, which means even more changes.

But he can't say that can he?!
 

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Full quote: “So I would say that in three, four, five years’ time, the base of the team will still be around. Important players that are in the club now. That’s why I say we don’t need to make lots of changes. I believe we have an important nucleus of players. The process is important, where some faces are leaving, some faces are coming and you try to rebuild something. Teams don’t last forever, of course."


I doubt he really means this. But who is he talking about? Youth players? The way this squad has performed over the last 2yrs shows there are very few up to the task, let alone in 3, 4 or 5yrs time, and those who are - now - in the twilight of their career and won't (or shouldn't) be around much longer. The more you look at the squad, the bigger the task. There is, or will be soon, the need to make lots of changes. And if you aren't prepared to refresh an already-tired team then the even the most loyal players will start to look elsewhere, which means even more changes.
You forget that JM likes players a little past the sell by date. He resigned Drogba for Chelski at the age of 36, Terry was getting picked for the first team at 37 years old, Lampard was 36. Probably expects Kane to play till he is 40
 

Ronwol196061

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Mourinho Mourschmino....

"The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.”

Getting lots of SPAM from fans that have no idea what football is. Danny Dave and Bill knew
 
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