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Callum Wilson signs for Newcastle

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I'm curious what the other options are. If we have 4 or 5 very similar options and Jose believes that Wilson is the best of the bunch, then we'll have to trust in it. I struggle to believe there are some higher ceiling, young players that we are considering and arriving at Wilson. At the same time, we havent had any option to back up Kane so anybody who can contribute represents an upgrade. Jermaine Defoe at the end of his Spurs career was an excellent backup/spot starter and perhaps Wilson can be that.
 

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“Sell now before he declines any more. We still have a chance of getting a decent fee at the moment, an average start in the championship and we will lose that opportunity. He’s lost a yard of pace, which for his game is a major problem, can’t head a ball for toffee and his technical qualities leave a lot to be desired, also struggles to hold the ball up. That’s not even mentioning the fact he doesn’t understand the offside rule. To put his decline into context, he got eight goals last season, five of those were before October, so for the entire league season after October he scored three goals, this is despite playing virtually every game. Solanke scored the same amount during that period. He leaves us a worse player than when we were promoted from the championship imo. Get what we can and reinvest in the next up and coming striker.”

Ringing endorsement from that Bournemouth forum. For what it’s worth I think the chance creation and space to run into was dire for them and he got some unfair criticism. Luckily at Spurs we have no issues with creativity, we’re a dynamic threat, and can break through low blocks with ease...
 

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Ringing endorsement from that Bournemouth forum. For what it’s worth I think the chance creation and space to run into was dire for them and he got some unfair criticism. Luckily at Spurs we have no issues with creativity, we’re a dynamic threat, and can break through low blocks with ease...

It definitely is down to the chance creation and style of play Bournemouth played this recent season . I could be wrong but looking at the stats and Bournemouths games, after his 5th goal of the season which was Bournemouths 7th game of the season, they had scored an overall 13 goals. Quite a low return from the team already at that stage but fast forward to the end of game week 22 and 15 games later when Wilson didn't score at all and Bournemouth went a really bad run of games. They only won 2 games, drew 3 and lost 10 with the team scoring only 7 goals. Yes he may not have scored an awful lot of goals this season but the problem lay with the bournemouth squad and how they performed as a team. They were awful last season. The season before him and Fraser were fantastic and if we put Wilson in a team that creates more and plays more expansive football I'm sure he will contribute to plenty of goals.
 

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It definitely is down to the chance creation and style of play Bournemouth played this recent season . I could be wrong but looking at the stats and Bournemouths games, after his 5th goal of the season which was Bournemouths 7th game of the season, they had scored an overall 13 goals. Quite a low return from the team already at that stage but fast forward to the end of game week 22 and 15 games later when Wilson didn't score at all and Bournemouth went a really bad run of games. They only won 2 games, drew 3 and lost 10 with the team scoring only 7 goals. Yes he may not have scored an awful lot of goals this season but the problem lay with the bournemouth squad and how they performed as a team. They were awful last season. The season before him and Fraser were fantastic and if we put Wilson in a team that creates more and plays more expansive football I'm sure he will contribute to plenty of goals.
Right, but his constant losing of the ball and scuffing of chances has to be a big issue there in not scoring. If you've started 10+ games without a goal as a striker then some blame must be levied. I think we all remember how absolutely awful we looked with Kane injured, and even with Harry playing he's feeding off scraps more often than not; so if Wilson's weakness is that he won't be good in a team with stifled creativity as a lone striker, then I predict more of the same here.
 

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I'm curious what the other options are. If we have 4 or 5 very similar options and Jose believes that Wilson is the best of the bunch, then we'll have to trust in it. I struggle to believe there are some higher ceiling, young players that we are considering and arriving at Wilson. At the same time, we havent had any option to back up Kane so anybody who can contribute represents an upgrade. Jermaine Defoe at the end of his Spurs career was an excellent backup/spot starter and perhaps Wilson can be that.

I would imagine that what may have pushed him over the top was his premier league experience.
 

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Right, but his constant losing of the ball and scuffing of chances has to be a big issue there in not scoring. If you've started 10+ games without a goal as a striker then some blame must be levied. I think we all remember how absolutely awful we looked with Kane injured, and even with Harry playing he's feeding off scraps more often than not; so if Wilson's weakness is that he won't be good in a team with stifled creativity as a lone striker, then I predict more of the same here.

For sure he will have to take some criticism but he didn’t forget how to score over night. The season before he was in brilliant form but fans need to remember we won’t be able to afford a striker capable of filling in and replicating what Kane does on a weekly basis.

For me Wilson will offer what Moura and Son didn’t when filling in, which is occupying a central defender, decent hold up play and making those instinct runs in the box and off the ball that is natural instinct for a striker. He’ll also allow us to play Son, Moura and co in their preferred positions without making drastic changes to our style or shape e.g. Llorente and Janssen were far too limited and required the ball to their feet or head constantly and disrupted our overall style.

I can see Wilson linking up well with our existing players, making constant off the ball runs and being accurate inside the box.
 

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It definitely is down to the chance creation and style of play Bournemouth played this recent season . I could be wrong but looking at the stats and Bournemouths games, after his 5th goal of the season which was Bournemouths 7th game of the season, they had scored an overall 13 goals. Quite a low return from the team already at that stage but fast forward to the end of game week 22 and 15 games later when Wilson didn't score at all and Bournemouth went a really bad run of games. They only won 2 games, drew 3 and lost 10 with the team scoring only 7 goals. Yes he may not have scored an awful lot of goals this season but the problem lay with the bournemouth squad and how they performed as a team. They were awful last season. The season before him and Fraser were fantastic and if we put Wilson in a team that creates more and plays more expansive football I'm sure he will contribute to plenty of goals.

Seriously? Are we all just going to pretend we didn't see him play against us a few weeks ago?

There seems to be absolute determination, among our fans, to believe what we saw with our own eyes was a blip, even though that blip seems perfectly in line with his stats and what his own fans, who actually watch him every game, are saying!
 
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Seriously? Are we all just going to pretend we didn't see him play against us a few weeks ago?

There seems to be absolute determination, among our fans, to believe what we saw with our own eyes was a blip, even though that blip seems perfectly in line with his stats and what his own fans, who actually watch him every game, are saying!

I do get your point but to be honest some of us are so resigned to the likelihood of once again getting no striker cover that I suppose we'll happily try to see the positives in this. He's shown more gumption in recent memory than Benteke who was floated when we were last scraping the striker barrel.

My confidence in us getting someone in that position who isn't in some type of poor form or relegation predicament is zero by now. Happy to be surprised, of course, and I do think there are other exciting players available from relegated sides (if not in this position) who we shouldn't turn our noses up at.
 
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With regards to Watkins mentioned above his advantage is that he can play as a WF or inside forward. But this has been his first full season playing as an out and out CF.
I think Wilson represents the pragmatic option - plays lots, scores goals and has plenty of premier leagueexperience. I think this is a good shout. He needs feeding but I would argue with Son and Lucas hopefully doign that he can score plenty or at least have chances to. No idea how much he would cost though. At 28 I would doubt the cherries would want him sold for less than 30 m though or has there been any information on fee sizes in keeping with our budget ?
We need to sign both - Watkins and Wilson.

It's two seasons in a row that Kane has had a major injury. If we are seriously want to be considered a top 4 threat, then we need 4 players capable of playing striker.

I don't consider Lucas as one of those. Therefore an ideal setup would be Kane, Son, Watkins, Wilson.

With Son and Watkins capable of playing wide.
 

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I'm curious what the other options are. If we have 4 or 5 very similar options and Jose believes that Wilson is the best of the bunch, then we'll have to trust in it. I struggle to believe there are some higher ceiling, young players that we are considering and arriving at Wilson. At the same time, we havent had any option to back up Kane so anybody who can contribute represents an upgrade. Jermaine Defoe at the end of his Spurs career was an excellent backup/spot starter and perhaps Wilson can be that.


One name that's surfaced is Habib Diallo from Metz. I know nothing about him but predictably he looks pretty amazing on Youtube.
 

daryl hannah

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I like the look of Wilson - I think he's a good striker for getting on the end of things and has some technical ability - but Watkins is head and shoulders above. I can't understand if they are similarly priced why you would not go for Watkins. He's got everything and will be an England striker one day.
 

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The money bags clubs annoy me. We'd have probably got Ake for less but would've had to wait until the end of the window, but being able to just say to a club "name your price" and paying it gives them such an advantage. A shame that it is lost on their supporters.

They don't annoy me at all. Its hard to be sanctimonious when you are owned by a billionaire tax exile. The fact that he is unwilling/unable to plough his personal wealth into the club is irrelevant imo, we don't operate in a level playing field and hence we can hardly go pointing the finger at City because their owners actually are able/willing to spend.
 

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Can you not see the light, why is it only me with the devine insight, why is it only me to wear my pants on the outside, why is it only me to be married to my missus.

MITROVIC MITROVIC MITROVIC is our salvation and get Christey at RB at same time problem solved
COYS
 

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They don't annoy me at all. Its hard to be sanctimonious when you are owned by a billionaire tax exile. The fact that he is unwilling/unable to plough his personal wealth into the club is irrelevant imo, we don't operate in a level playing field and hence we can hardly go pointing the finger at City because their owners actually are able/willing to spend.
I’m quite proud to support a club that is trying to run the organisation as a business that generates all its own finances without breaking all the FFP rules repeatedly. I’m very frustrated we can’t compete with these cheats, yes cheats, but we’re the good guys here. I hope we have proper success with these strategies before I die but hey, we’re Spurs.
I’m nearly 55 now and lifelong Spurs. I consider Manchester City and Chelsea to be new franchises; they are not the shitty yo-yo clubs of my youth. I don’t want my club to be the fantasy football playthings of some criminal laundering his money or some oil baron literally with too much cash. I’m desperate to see the glory again after all these years but it mustn’t be tainted.
I refuse to secretly google at pub quizzes too. What’s the point of competing?
 

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I’m quite proud to support a club that is trying to run the organisation as a business that generates all its own finances without breaking all the FFP rules repeatedly. I’m very frustrated we can’t compete with these cheats, yes cheats, but we’re the good guys here. I hope we have proper success with these strategies before I die but hey, we’re Spurs.
I’m nearly 55 now and lifelong Spurs. I consider Manchester City and Chelsea to be new franchises; they are not the shitty yo-yo clubs of my youth. I don’t want my club to be the fantasy football playthings of some criminal laundering his money or some oil baron literally with too much cash. I’m desperate to see the glory again after all these years but it mustn’t be tainted.
I refuse to secretly google at pub quizzes too. What’s the point of competing?

I'm sorry but I don't agree. We are owned by a Billionaire Tax exile who was instrumental (along with Soros) in our currency crashing out of the ERM (Im a currency trader myself). So lets not get all sanctimonious and act like we have a choir boy as an owner.

The world isn't a fair place and we have taken advantage of that ourselves in many respects (admittedly we haven't flouted FFP). Ive been a fan since '81 and as long as our success comes within the current rules then I'm good with it.
 

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I'm sorry but I don't agree. We are owned by a Billionaire Tax exile who was instrumental (along with Soros) in our currency crashing out of the ERM (Im a currency trader myself). So lets not get all sanctimonious and act like we have a choir boy as an owner.

The world isn't a fair place and we have taken advantage of that ourselves in many respects (admittedly we haven't flouted FFP). Ive been a fan since '81 and as long as our success comes within the current rules then I'm good with it.
owned by, not ran by and some owners are smarter than others with investments. Some also don't buy clubs as play things.
 

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I'm sorry but I don't agree. We are owned by a Billionaire Tax exile who was instrumental (along with Soros) in our currency crashing out of the ERM (Im a currency trader myself). So lets not get all sanctimonious and act like we have a choir boy as an owner.

The world isn't a fair place and we have taken advantage of that ourselves in many respects (admittedly we haven't flouted FFP). Ive been a fan since '81 and as long as our success comes within the current rules then I'm good with it.
He wasn’t instrumental, he merely predicted something that should’ve been obvious to any buffoon. Taking us into the ERM was fucking stupid and destined for failure. Regardless of the questionable morality in effectively betting against the UK currency, to say he or Soros was responsible is just wrong.
 

HedgieSpur

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He wasn’t instrumental, he merely predicted something that should’ve been obvious to any buffoon. Taking us into the ERM was fucking stupid and destined for failure. Regardless of the questionable morality in effectively betting against the UK currency, to say he or Soros was responsible is just wrong.

I run a currency trading hedge fund, Im very sure he was instrumental. Ill leave it there though.
 

HedgieSpur

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Anyway, back to Calum Wilson...Im quite happy with the link, he's got enough about him to be a foil, compete with and complement Kane. He boosts the HG quota and has good attributes (pace, keen eye for goal and is good in the air). Great price too...whats not to like?
 
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