The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 10th August

Ron Burgundy · Aug 22, 2023

Trix said:
"Hefty bid made for Saulsson Manorsdad."

Jonathon David

I don't think that's a great move if I'm honest. Not sure that makes sense at all

Now it's Spursonal · Aug 22, 2023

Trix said:
I'm not overly keen from what I've seen of him either. I will concede though that he is the profile I think we need. Quick, good feet in tight area's, works hard and is used to playing in a possession based side against low blocks. That said I just don't think he's the quality of player worth the money being banded around in the media.

Think this is pretty spot on.

David is definitely not a game-changing world class talent but, as I’ve said before a few times, Ange doesn’t need his striker to be.

So while obviously it would be nice to have a world class talent at striker, it’s probably a luxury we can’t/shouldn’t be paying for when there is more pressing needs for Ange’s wants and desires for his team.

As Trix listed already, David is very good in the areas that Ange needs his strikers to be. He’s also very good at stretching the defence too, which is another important factor. So from that point of view, I think he would be a good signing (depending on fee).

Edit: Of course this is only on the assumption that we’d be spending the money on a marquee winger instead.

felmani26 · Aug 22, 2023

brasil_spur said:
I mean he plays in a stronger league than Orban does and the same one Muani did before last summer, so I don't think he can be judged purely off a weak league.

I think he's widely rated as one of the top 20 STs in the word right now and given that at least 17 of the others are out of our reach then he's a good option to go for if he has the attributes that Ange is happy with.

David incidentally moved to Lille from Gent for not dissimilar money what they are quoting us re: Orban (€27m).

Nick-TopSpursMan · Aug 22, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
Could be Fati, we’ve had ITK we are interested in him. Johnson is an easy choice as the link is in the press. Could be ether.

I don't think it's Fati either. He doesn't profile like Doku or Williams at all.

fridgemagnet · Aug 22, 2023

RobjDerby said:
Thats NOT him, thats Alphonso Davies lol

Doh

... just checking you're all awake :whistle:

Ghost Hardware · Aug 22, 2023

felmani26 said:
David incidentally moved to Lille from Gent for not dissimilar money what they are quoting us re: Orban (€27m).

David is certainly more of an established player there is no doubt, but personally I’d rather take a risk on Orban or Marcos Leonardo. David will cost around €70 mil because that is how important he is to Lille but for me I think that outlay for him would be a mistake. I don’t think he is on the same level Osimhen was when Napoli bought him for example. Whilst Orban would certainly be the greater risk I think David will still be risky and that’s not what you want if you are going to spend €70 mil.

Ghost Hardware · Aug 22, 2023

Nick-TopSpursMan said:
I don't think it's Fati either. He doesn't profile like Doku or Williams at all.

Could also be Laurienté but I think considering it’s our third choice it’s more likely to be a player that maybe doesn’t have the ideal skill set but more a ballpark. Johnson having the added bonus of being HG and Fati being likely put up for sale by Barca and thus an “opportunistic” buy. Have to remember Levy is still here. Personally I think there are just too many links to Johnson for him not to be on the list regardless if he exactly fits the criteria.

Jaddas · Aug 22, 2023

For the price of David, can probably get Orban and Williams. Makes more sense to do the latter, and Orban doesn’t need to be registered for this season so doesn’t impact registration.

felmani26 · Aug 22, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
David is certainly more of an established player there is no doubt, but personally I’d rather take a risk on Orban or Marcos Leonardo. David will cost around €70 mil because that is how important he is to Lille but for me I think that outlay for him would be a mistake. I don’t think he is on the same level Osimhen was when Napoli bought him for example. Whilst Orban would certainly be the greater risk I think David will still be risky and that’s not what you want if you are going to spend €70 mil.

It was also the intention (no?) to also include one of Scarlett or Veliz to be loaned out to Gent in any Orban deal - would Lille be accepting of either I wonder which pushes us down the path of David?

fecka · Aug 22, 2023

If Ange believes that Jonathan David is the answer so be it, but I can't see it myself. Looks like he has slow feet, runs very upright, and half-scuffs every other shot. Seems strangely cumbersome too.

I know Youtube isn't the way to scout, but I sure hope he's better than he looks on the tube if he joins.

SpartanSpur · Aug 22, 2023

felmani26 said:
David incidentally moved to Lille from Gent for not dissimilar money what they are quoting us re: Orban (€27m).

I read somewhere today that Orban wants to go to Lille - who can't afford the fee - so I wonder if this is some kind of workaround.

The danger of course then is if Orban smashes it a Lille and is then out of our reach.

wrd · Aug 22, 2023

SpartanSpur said:
I read somewhere today that Orban wants to go to Lille - who can't afford the fee - so I wonder if this is some kind of workaround.

The danger of course then is if Orban smashes it a Lille and is then out of our reach.

Worth noting that Orban has a quote attached to him saying he wants to go somewhere to win trophies and not a place like Arsenal. There's a consideration to be made therefore that perhaps, he's simply not interested and he's taking a Bellingham type approach of knowing what move he wants and is moving to clubs accordingly like Lille as a stepping stone, rather than a move where it might prove difficult for him to leave.

Wick3d · Aug 22, 2023

"BACK THE MANAGER!"

But when it is a player you don't like, it suddenly becomes "NO, NOT LIKE THAT!" :ROFLMAO:

Given that this is now a project for Ange, there isn't a point in trying to fix every problem in one window. We have done some excellent business. Hopefully, we don't settle or compromise too much with our transfers just for the sake of it. However, if David is the man Ange wants, and we can afford it, then why not?

Trix · Aug 22, 2023

yankspurs said:
You're thinking of Alphonso Davies. The best LB/LWB in the world at the moment. Though David is also Canadian. Good striker who scores goals. Would be a decent signing. Though would hope a hefty bid wouldnt preclude us from going after Toney in January if need be.

Not that it's for this thread but I'd be amazed if we ever went for Toney tbh, putting his gambling aside there are still far too many red flags.

WorthATry · Aug 22, 2023

D1 on COYS:

Told v quiet we are struggling to move players out and Daniel does not want to spend what we do not receive first which makes me think the maddison , vdv buys was the kane money

told most likely is another center half over a forward , they like orban and are monitoring but no more than 50/50 chance of a deal , center half more likely

hero · Aug 22, 2023

WorthATry said:
D1 on COYS:

Told v quiet we are struggling to move players out and Daniel does not want to spend what we do not receive first which makes me think the maddison , vdv buys was the kane money

told most likely is another center half over a forward , they like orban and are monitoring but no more than 50/50 chance of a deal , center half more likely

I've been expecting this.

Jaddas · Aug 22, 2023

WorthATry said:
D1 on COYS:

Told v quiet we are struggling to move players out and Daniel does not want to spend what we do not receive first which makes me think the maddison , vdv buys was the kane money

told most likely is another center half over a forward , they like orban and are monitoring but no more than 50/50 chance of a deal , center half more likely

Don’t want to start a Levy bash in this thread, but the bold part doesn’t surprise me one bit. He’s probably going to ride on the Ange feel good wave.

king_yid · Aug 22, 2023

WorthATry said:
D1 on COYS:

Told v quiet we are struggling to move players out and Daniel does not want to spend what we do not receive first which makes me think the maddison , vdv buys was the kane money

told most likely is another center half over a forward , they like orban and are monitoring but no more than 50/50 chance of a deal , center half more likely

Thanks for the info, I was thinking this. Break even on those two and wait to see what we can raise from sales as we are seemingly struggling for money...

funkycoldmedina · Aug 22, 2023

WorthATry said:
D1 on COYS:

Told v quiet we are struggling to move players out and Daniel does not want to spend what we do not receive first which makes me think the maddison , vdv buys was the kane money

told most likely is another center half over a forward , they like orban and are monitoring but no more than 50/50 chance of a deal , center half more likely

Well this is going to go down well

CanadaSpurs · Aug 22, 2023

funkycoldmedina said:
Well this is going to go down well

Should come as no surprise but it will. The media was briefed weeks ago the “Kane money” had been spent.

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