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Funny because it's how Conte spoke in the past about where Kane should play but never played him that way
Although he only started dropping deep after Eriksen left
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Funny because it's how Conte spoke in the past about where Kane should play but never played him that way
Although he only started dropping deep after Eriksen left
fishhhandaricecake
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Think you’re forgetting a very key point which is Kane absolutely loves the champions league and whilst Bayern aren’t quite man.city at the moment, at that level with a manager like Tuchel and with the addition of Kane to an already pretty strong squad that could help them to really challenge for the CL the next few seasons.
Madrid aren’t the Madrid they were of the last 5+ years, Barca certainly aren’t anywhere near there usual strength, PSG are a bit of a mess and so without the choice of Man.City I think Bayern are right up there in terms of CL pedigree and outside chance with Kane of winning it.
That will be a huge factor in Kane’s decision.
In fact Bayern are 2nd favourites this season for the CL even without Kane as it stands!
If argue right now aside from Man.City there aren’t many better clubs Kane could go to than Bayern.
robotsonic
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Can't help but feel that trying to pick a team that have a chance at actually winning the CL is a bit of a crapshoot. We got to the final ffs. Inter were in the final last season. City took 15 years to win it, and PSG never have. Not sure you can make your career decisions on such things unless you're going to go to Madrid, which I think is a much better bet for him if he's wanting to see out his deal, than Bayern. They could sign Mbappe and Kane on a free next year if they want to, to add to their front 3, such is the pull of that club over Bayern.
fishhhandaricecake
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I get what you mean but at Bayern he has as good a chance of winning the CL as any other team bar City.
Bookies have them as 2nd favourites without Kane, their record the last 20 years is incredibly consistent.
Madrid aren’t in for Kane and are a bit of an aging side, I think their CL stardust is fading.
Either way he has a far better chance at trophies and possibly a CL trophy at Bayern than he does staying with us and so the Q is does he want to do that or stay at Spurs for one more season and see how things go, I think given he’s just turned 30 and football is an unpredictable beast he won’t kick a gift horse in the mouth if Levy says ok we will accept Bayerns offer if you want to go.
Which, assuming we are talking something more like 50m, would seem to be something DL could agree to.
it does seem to always come down to how much HK values a move (and CL football) right now.
robotsonic
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I suppose I agree in that City and Bayern both have as much chance as any of 10 teams based on the way it pans out over a season!
I still think, as I have all along, that this won't happen, as long as there is a chance for it to not. Thought it was done due to ITK, but until it is, I still just won't see it. Not enough upside for me for a year's wait to have his pick of future 4-5 years opportunities from HK's position,
robertgoulet
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I’d argue if I’m Ange I want a team working together at 100% not people carrying the load for others who can’t and telling the squad “pick it up for Harry so he can get his 30” sets a bad example. “Everyone work hard and everyone benefits. James you’ll get 10-15, Sonny you’ll get 10-15, Deki you’ll get 10-15, Richy you’ll get 10-15” etc is a better motivation.
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Funny how this story bounces around and many were happy or coming to terms with a departure on Friday but the vibe is different now that he's shown, yet again, what he's about.
I would say the prospects for Spurs levels of achievement this season can be revised upwards if he stays. There's nobody else in the squad that would affect those prospects as much.
I would say the prospects for Spurs levels of achievement this season can be revised upwards if he stays. There's nobody else in the squad that would affect those prospects as much.
It isn't a small amount but here's the two things. First, decisions have to be made in real time where will we be with and without him. Second, you aren't accounting for all the money that's at stake - the commercial value of having HK's face splashed over the newspapers and our sponsors being happy as hell. the ability to attract additoinal talen, naming rights. And really there's a third. If Danny sells him after today's performance, what will the atmosphere of the stadium be like. What's the impact on the brand. DOn't forget that the acoustics of the stadium can work for or against us..
It's a huge gamble for sure, but when you look at all the money that we stand to lose without him, the risk is less than 40M. But, it does require further investment which would have a ROI for years to come if you pick up the right players. Bring in two CBs that can play a high line effectivley and learn it quick and i'm willing to wager on our final position. People have us pencilled in for somewhere between 6-8. Keep Harry and get two smart CBs and we are in the hunt for 4th. If 5 spots open up for EPL, then this is the year you need to go big to return. We may have been granted a stay of execution (of the trade). If so, we need to dare. Cheers
knowlespurs
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He has a release clause of zero at the moment
Imagine being ange, if Kane stays.
every single press conference will be questions about Kane for the whole season, everything we do will all be about him - honestly whole situation is a nightmare for a manager who is trying to establish a team, rather than set up a team for one player.
which is why if he stays a new deal has to be signed as a minimum - that’s respecting the badge etc
every single press conference will be questions about Kane for the whole season, everything we do will all be about him - honestly whole situation is a nightmare for a manager who is trying to establish a team, rather than set up a team for one player.
which is why if he stays a new deal has to be signed as a minimum - that’s respecting the badge etc
worcestersauce
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Nothing has changed, if he won't sign a new contract sell him.
tommyt
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Okay Donna.
worcestersauce
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Always liked 10cc
I would suspect the kane transfer has been partly factored into this already, but agreed i do think bayern is a lot more attractive an option than many are making out.
spursfan77
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I thought that too first half but second half he was much better at staying in the box. Ange said there’s still lots of work to do to get them playing how he wants and I suspect the centre forward’s role being played properly is integral to that. He’s had the freedom of the pitch to do a lot of what he wants under the last two managers. Whilst I suspect he will get some freedom, he needs to stay in the right area.
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Them lot down the road have spunked £100 million on England's starting DM, and have spent £300 million, making them the highest spending club in Europe in this window.
We're flogging one of our greatest ever player to buy a couple CB's.
As the kids say; levels.
We're flogging one of our greatest ever player to buy a couple CB's.
As the kids say; levels.
For the love of Spurs
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Them lot down the road have spunked £100 million on England's starting DM, and have spent £300 million, making them the highest spending club in Europe in this window.
We're flogging one of our greatest ever player to buy a couple CB's.
As the kids say; levels.
if we where Arsenal we would throw £70m at Silva from Benfica or at least get Tapsoba to help fix our backline and then offer Kane whatever he wanted to try and get him to stay.
The sad thing is with this manager, this system and Kane we are only a defence away from a great team. Surely the club can see that, we aren’t far off if we just do a bit more. Keeping Kane and a fixed defence and we are in business.
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The real elephant in the room is not whether he stays this season but where he plays next season.
I can easily see us having a decent first season under Ange with Kane central to everything followed by an almighty fall next season as the club tries to adjust to life without him. Ange could easily end up being the fall guy like Ramos and AVB were when they lost their key players after decent first seasons.
Hopefully, I am being overly pessimistic but we have witnessed our fair share of false dawns at Spurs. It would be hugely disappointing to be starting over again in eighteen months' time.
I can easily see us having a decent first season under Ange with Kane central to everything followed by an almighty fall next season as the club tries to adjust to life without him. Ange could easily end up being the fall guy like Ramos and AVB were when they lost their key players after decent first seasons.
Hopefully, I am being overly pessimistic but we have witnessed our fair share of false dawns at Spurs. It would be hugely disappointing to be starting over again in eighteen months' time.
