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Marty

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So they were previously instructed to do less?
Well ... yes. Nuno and Jose before played a low block with quick bursts of pace. Conte wants them to press higher and run constantly for 90 minutes.

Just that switch on it's own will lead to the team covering more distance.
 

ultimateloner

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Having read the Athletic article i'm actually really surprised that things like ketchup and mayo are available to the players. These items fall in the same category as soft drinks; should not be consumed by health-conscious people let alone pro athletes.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Having read the Athletic article i'm actually really surprised that things like ketchup and mayo are available to the players. These items fall in the same category as soft drinks; should not be consumed by health-conscious people let alone pro athletes.


Weird how a manager who actually knows what the fuck he's doing has come in and put an end to it.
 

JCRD

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Having read the Athletic article i'm actually really surprised that things like ketchup and mayo are available to the players. These items fall in the same category as soft drinks; should not be consumed by health-conscious people let alone pro athletes.

I have been watching a bit of Ben Foster on youtube, he has a great channel, but he puts ketchup on EVERYTHING. He isnt fat and infact he is a keeper who would use less energy than outfield players.

Its not the ketchup - ketchup is a 100 calories a day... as an example and whilst its not the best nutritionally, it isnt getting them fat. Mayo may be though.

I just think theyre eating the same as before but expending far less energy because they were too busy sitting in their 18 yard box for the last two years.
 

Timberwolf

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Having read the Athletic article i'm actually really surprised that things like ketchup and mayo are available to the players. These items fall in the same category as soft drinks; should not be consumed by health-conscious people let alone pro athletes.
Yeah. Like I get they're human beings and have their cravings and wants like the rest of us, but if someone offered me one tenth of the annual salary of the lowest paid Spurs first team player to give up condiments for 10 years I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Occasional treat here and there, sure, but c'mon guys, you're living the dream. It's not that hard to give up the ketchup and pizza during the season.
 

ultimateloner

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I have been watching a bit of Ben Foster on youtube, he has a great channel, but he puts ketchup on EVERYTHING. He isnt fat and infact he is a keeper who would use less energy than outfield players.

Its not the ketchup - ketchup is a 100 calories a day... as an example and whilst its not the best nutritionally, it isnt getting them fat. Mayo may be though.

I just think theyre eating the same as before but expending far less energy because they were too busy sitting in their 18 yard box for the last two years.

Yeah I'm not saying 'ban everything bad''. We are human so an occasional treat is fine.
It's just a matter of availability. It's like you walk into a gym and Cola is on offer; these things don't go.
Also nutrition is a virtuous cycle. Once you eat well you will have less craving for the sugary stuf.
Yep I'm not blaming the 'insufficient' fitnes levels to ketchup..just saying if you dont do the small things right, you probalby wont do the big things right either.
 

ultimateloner

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Yeah. Like I get they're human beings and have their cravings and wants like the rest of us, but if someone offered me one tenth of the annual salary of the lowest paid Spurs first team player to give up condiments for 10 years I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Occasional treat here and there, sure, but c'mon guys, you're living the dream. It's not that hard to give up the ketchup and pizza during the season.

Yeah occasional treat is fine; you can't always be on gung-ho level, its bad for the mind.

But I think even for a 'normal' person, not eating sugary stuff is like a low-hanging fruit. 200 calories is like 20 mins of HIIT. I would much rather not eat that stuff than to have to do work to burn it off..
 

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Having read the Athletic article i'm actually really surprised that things like ketchup and mayo are available to the players. These items fall in the same category as soft drinks; should not be consumed by health-conscious people let alone pro athletes.

You seriously think health conscious people should not have any ketchup or mayonnaise (in moderation)?
 

JCRD

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Yeah I'm not saying 'ban everything bad''. We are human so an occasional treat is fine.
It's just a matter of availability. It's like you walk into a gym and Cola is on offer; these things don't go.
Also nutrition is a virtuous cycle. Once you eat well you will have less craving for the sugary stuf.
Yep I'm not blaming the 'insufficient' fitnes levels to ketchup..just saying if you dont do the small things right, you probalby wont do the big things right either.


I agree with you on that - it is the detail that is the difference between athletes and athletes... i mean look at Ronaldo, he is a machine.

Tell me about the cravings haha, it is a cycle and a circle... all of them earn enough money to get a live in chef so they shouldnt have too many excuses. They even get gorumet food in their training ground. They shouldnt be fat or unfit.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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This is something and nothing. Having it freely available (to the players) at the club is one thing but once they go home, you rely on them to do the right thing. They could be drinking ketchup for all we know and nobody would ever be any the wiser. And on it's own, i'm not entirely sure ketchup is an evil from the devils gooch, not like a spoonful here and there anyway. But if banning it makes them stop and think then why not. But you'd hope it comes along with some education on ketchup as well as other things rather than an abrupt ban with nothing backing it up.

But as I said, you are relying on them doing the right thing once they go home. One would hope they are professional enough to do that considering the money they are on.
 

ultimateloner

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You seriously think health conscious people should not have any ketchup or mayonnaise (in moderation)?
Everything in moderation is fine; it's about having a balanced diet overall that fit one's life/fitness goals, so it's hard say categorically 'This is bad'.
But ketchup/mayo or sugary stuff generally disrupt this, and are relativley easy to forgo. I just think in terms of cost/benefit it offers very little..
 

ultimateloner

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I agree with you on that - it is the detail that is the difference between athletes and athletes... i mean look at Ronaldo, he is a machine.

Tell me about the cravings haha, it is a cycle and a circle... all of them earn enough money to get a live in chef so they shouldnt have too many excuses. They even get gorumet food in their training ground. They shouldnt be fat or unfit.
I dont expect any of our players to be like CR7. He is unique in both ability and mindset; he's kind of like a role model you can look up to, and that is all.

I dont think nutrition is even about money. In this day and age an average income person can have a decent diet if the choices are informed. Yes maybe not some super-human thing but food/drink is so abundant now to the average person that you can't blame a bad diet on money.
 
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