FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo

rossdapep · Sep 28, 2021

Why would you go up to Wolves and start with players playing close to each other and overloading areas on the pitch (especially the left-side) - with decent results - and then go to our biggest rivals and play so open with players so far apart from each other.

Either the players didn't follow his plans or he changed the game plan and got it spectacularly wrong.

BringBack_leGin · Sep 28, 2021

Beginning to really crave a 3 man attack of all pace with Kane playing the plan B target man off the bench. 343 or 433, happy either way.

GetSpurredOn · Sep 28, 2021

Pains me to say this, but watching the way Chelsea and Arsenal, they moved so much more fluidly than us, I admired what they were doing. They were able to stride out of defence down the flanks, fullbacks overlapping, one touch infield and move for the return ball, they ate up the ground.
Yet late on the game Sunday, we seemed to just pass the ball side to side or even backwards until we saw an opening, or else coughed up possession because Arsenal showed greater urgency. There was no movement, no intensity, it was flat and clueless. At one point, I think it was Emerson who had the ball, and every single Spurs player was stood still next to a marker, so static that not one of them made a move to show for the ball, so we just cycled it backwards.

mrlilywhite · Sep 28, 2021

DickTopSpursFan said:
Palace and Chelsea were the wake up call. ESP the former.

Yep - hence the absolute conviction that Nuno Santo is most def not the man to drive this team forward, not now, or up to Xmas. I honestly feel that if we leave it as late as Xmas to drop him, it'll end up being the kind of legacy that Levy will ultimately dread. He reacted swiftly with Ramos & that was after our league cup win the previous season. Now is the time to abandon this project & salvage a respectable season, or face a realistic battle to maintain our top-flight status.

Matthew · Sep 28, 2021

mattylad77 said:
See me after class.

bit extreme.

Jaddas · Sep 28, 2021

I thought we hit rock bottom with Jose. Little did I know that Nuno would smash the glass floor and take us into a black hole. Losing 9 - 1 on aggregate in 3 London derbies is as bad as I can ever remember.

Spurzinho · Sep 28, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
Make us proud they said, free flowing attacking football they said… ?‍ the state of our club
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Its scandalous. None of us can afford to buy ENIC out. If we got our act together as supporters we could, however, make the board's life extremely uncomfortable by dragging their ownership through the mud in full view of a baying media. People could also boycott the games and merch but I'm realistic enough to know that that is not going to happen.

The trouble is that clubs like ours would actually be pretty sanguine if us oldies bogged off. They have a ready made international market that they're just itching to exploit. That's why I personally favour stubbornly refusing to be marginalised as "legacy" fans and instead just making sure that the owners are constantly in the news. A chairman like Mike Ashley couldn't care less if the fans hate hit guts because his asset has already depreciated significantly to the extent that even if he does sell up its not going to be a huge deal for himself. ENIC on the other hand have a ton more skin in this game and they despise negative publicity. Its time Levy was called out and held to account. Its time we created room for a bit more scrutiny by the media.

ENIC are not going to deliver success. They've been padding their asset portfolio. ENIC need to know that we know and that we're not playing their game any more. Invest or divest. In the meantime, no more platitudes or bullsh*t.

mrlilywhite · Sep 28, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
Make us proud they said, free flowing attacking football they said… ?‍ the state of our club
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This is what this club has become - sound bites scattered in every video to keep the naive believing & the money coming in. The only way we hurt these fuckers is by walking away from our emotional investment with our pockets full. In reality, the only real way ENIC ever looks to sell is when the investment goes sour. The irony of that is that Levy whilst chasing the money and his continuation of fuck up after fuck up is actually devaluing the club where we can't sustain any real level of performance on the pitch. He is the master of his own demise, but what will failure actually cost the club in the short to long term? What if we actually go down? Forest was always too big to go down they said, Leeds too & yet seemingly as of now, Levy hasn't worked this out yet!?

Trix · Sep 28, 2021

Spurzinho said:
Its scandalous. None of us can afford to buy ENIC out. If we got our act together as supporters we could, however, make the board's life extremely uncomfortable by dragging their ownership through the mud in full view of a baying media. People could also boycott the games and merch but I'm realistic enough to know that that is not going to happen.

The trouble is that clubs like ours would actually be pretty sanguine if us oldies bogged off. They have a ready made international market that they're just itching to exploit. That's why I personally favour stubbornly refusing to be marginalised as "legacy" fans and instead just making sure that the owners are constantly in the news. A chairman like Mike Ashley couldn't care less if the fans hate hit guts because his asset has already depreciated significantly to the extent that even if he does sell up its not going to be a huge deal for himself. ENIC on the other hand have a ton more skin in this game and they despise negative publicity. Its time Levy was called out and held to account. Its time we created room for a bit more scrutiny by the media.

ENIC are not going to deliver success. They've been padding their asset portfolio. ENIC need to know that we know and that we're not playing their game any more. Invest or divest. In the meantime, no more platitudes or bullsh*t.

Thanks mate, needed cheering up. Proper made me laugh.

TheChosenOne · Sep 28, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
Make us proud they said, free flowing attacking football they said… ?‍ the state of our club
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Spurs DNA - Do Not Attack

Spurzinho · Sep 28, 2021

Trix said:
Thanks mate, needed cheering up. Proper made me laugh.

Don't be a knob.

tobi · Sep 28, 2021

rossdapep said:
Why would you go up to Wolves and start with players playing close to each other and overloading areas on the pitch (especially the left-side) - with decent results - and then go to our biggest rivals and play so open with players so far apart from each other.

Either the players didn't follow his plans or he changed the game plan and got it spectacularly wrong.

Compare the Chelsea game plan in the first half to Arsenal away - Nuno changed the plan.

Man City was a clear plan and a tried and tested one vs that opponent/manager.

Chelsea was a clear plan that show promise and caught the opposition out but he didn't anticipate Tuchel making adjustments at half time. They could have forced Tuchel to makes changes earlier if we scored in the first half.

All the other games except for Pacos at home have no identity to them, no pressing, no structure, no patterns of play, no movement , no chemistry.

DJS · Sep 28, 2021

Problem is at the moment I think we’ve turned into a banter club.

We had those few years of respectability under Poch but for last two seasons it’s been pure banter.

And even worse, West Ham have stopped being a banter club at the moment.

Trix · Sep 28, 2021

Spurzinho said:
Don't be a knob.

I'm not Wolfie, I genuinely laughed.

Metalhead · Sep 28, 2021

Hakkz said:
Is he? I don't even find that point relevant. It's not redeeming for a football manager if he's nice. That's the type of thing you would say because he's not good at anything else.

Probably responding to some of the posters who have got a bit personal.

Hakkz · Sep 28, 2021

Real_madyidd said:
Is that Hanson?

That's a long haired Toby Alderweireld and his mate.

EQP · Sep 28, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
Make us proud they said, free flowing attacking football they said… ?‍ the state of our club
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We're top 20 though!

yankspurs · Sep 28, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
Make us proud they said, free flowing attacking football they said… ?‍ the state of our club
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The Nuno way

BringBack_leGin · Sep 28, 2021

@Trix do you disagree with having Kane not in the line up? Or do you not want him in the Macau squad at all?

greaves · Sep 28, 2021

tobi said:
Compare the Chelsea game plan in the first half to Arsenal away - Nuno changed the plan.

Man City was a clear plan and a tried and tested one vs that opponent/manager.

Chelsea was a clear plan that show promise and caught the opposition out but he didn't anticipate Tuchel making adjustments at half time. They could have forced Tuchel to makes changes earlier if we scored in the first half.

All the other games except for Pacos at home have no identity to them, no pressing, no structure, no patterns of play, no movement , no chemistry.

We are the walking dead. Tottenzombie Hotspur.

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