Spurs Amazon Documentary?

Bowlesinho · Sep 1, 2020

I really enjoyed the first three. Clear that Jose really rates Eric, Dele and Kane.

Mentions Doherty as agrressive in his Wolves analysis, so he's clearly identified that as an important part of our future transfers.

I really like Jose as well, it's his show and he comes across well.

Metalhead · Sep 1, 2020

slartibartfast said:
I hope that wasn't staged because that would be all the motivation anyone would ever need to prove those fkers wrong.

Results on the pitch will do that.

PaulM · Sep 1, 2020

Kingellesar said:
Be interesting to see when Lloris comes back, if he does any of the pre match talks.

Don’t get why people are laying into Kane, least he speaks up, think you can see he is a bit nervous but not scared to say what he is feeling.

Some of the stuff I'm seeing about Kane is ridiculous. Sure he's not Obama but what on earth are people expecting him to say? I was dreading watching it based on what I read but what I saw was what I would expect from a player. We heard Stevie G a few years ago and, subsequent irony aside, it was similar stuff ("This does not slip").

Kane has shown himself to be a model professional, very driven, loyal and willing to dig his team mates out when he needs to. Personally, I have nothing but admiration for the guy and I'd question people having a go at him over this stuff. We're blessed to have him.

richard_gleeson · Sep 1, 2020

Thought Levy came across really well. Like a caring owner who does his best for everyone.

daryl hannah · Sep 1, 2020

kendoddsdadsdogsdead said:
Even though he probably edited himself to an inch of its life Levy came across as having the charisma of a corpse.

He reminds me of 'Woogie' from There's Something About Mary.

'O Zio · Sep 1, 2020

Jules77 said:
I'd be very surprised if that moment wasn't totally staged.

Jesus Christ the guy can't win with some of you. Complaining that he can't come up with some Churchillian war speech off the top of his head 3 times per game one minute, then when he does say something more substantial it's "Nah it's all staged, the whole thing is scripted"

Beggars belief.

BigVic · Sep 1, 2020

Metalhead said:
Loved it when Jose said "fuck off" about him being past it.

Was a fake scene though, those pundits were not real pundits.

1882andallthat · Sep 1, 2020

Watched the first 3 episodes - an interesting watch. It was more positive than I thought it would be.

Mourinho said in the documentary that this lot of players are better than the team he had at Man United.

In that case, seeing as though he won the Europa League, Community Shield, League Cup and finished runners up in the PL and FA Cup with that lot he had at Utd, will anything less than that in the next 2-3 seasons with us be seen as a failure ?

Just saying .... FWIW I'd take that haul for us in the next 2-3 seasons like a shot.

tiger666 · Sep 1, 2020

1882andallthat said:
Mourinho said in the documentary that this lot of players are better than the team he had at Man United.

What do you expect him to say? He'll probably tell his next team the same thing.

punkisback · Sep 1, 2020

PaulM said:
Some of the stuff I'm seeing about Kane is ridiculous. Sure he's not Obama but what on earth are people expecting him to say? I was dreading watching it based on what I read but what I saw was what I would expect from a player. We heard Stevie G a few years ago and, subsequent irony aside, it was similar stuff ("This does not slip").

Kane has shown himself to be a model professional, very driven, loyal and willing to dig his team mates out when he needs to. Personally, I have nothing but admiration for the guy and I'd question people having a go at him over this stuff. We're blessed to have him.

I think it depends more on who says it rather than what is said. Kane is an absolute perfectionist and it strikes a good sort of fear in their hearts that he won’t accept second best. If it was a joker and journeyman like Jimmy Bullard saying it you probably wouldn’t take it too seriously.

1882andallthat · Sep 1, 2020

tiger666 said:
What do you expect him to say? He'll probably tell his next team the same thing.

I said it tongue in cheek, but I hope we're not the odd one's out, because he's won silverware at every club he's been at.

daveduvet · Sep 1, 2020

Lilbaz said:
Klopp.

L-man · Sep 1, 2020

Think the thing I’ve learnt most from this is that people don’t know the difference between staged and edited

hughy · Sep 1, 2020

I have to admit I was a bit disappointed with Dier's reaction to that substitution. It must have been hard to take, but I consider him one of the "leaders" in our dressing room. If that ever happens again I hope he is up supporting the team instead of sat there sulking and feeling sorry for himself.

Then again it could have just been negatively edited of course.

SamR · Sep 1, 2020

TheChosenOne said:
So who was THE top Premier League Manager Jose referenced ?

I watched that bit as someone he was looking at to replace Poch and thought Brendan Rogers from what people have said on here before.

Cornpattbuck · Sep 1, 2020

JacoZA said:
To those saying it is staged or a PR piece - I recommend listening to the interview with the producers on The Fighting Cock recently. While the people who make these things obviously use professional discretion and wouldn't include anything that screwed the club over, the final signoff sits with them - not with the club. I worked in advertising and PR (for my sins) for 15 years, and I can guarantee you, if the club had final say, this show would be A LOT more contrived and "safe". I doubt we'd even have seen people swearing (Jose maybe, but not Kane - he's the star boy). The Jose "f off" bit is a bit of acting - but from a logistical point of view, it would be very hard to stage too many moments. Setting up and filming little scenarios like that takes a lot more time (especially with non-actors) than anyone would be able to afford. I mean, can you imagine asking Jose to do multiple takes while he has to prepare for a match?

"Guys, seriously? It's Liverpool this weekend!"

"We understand, but can we please just do one more take of 'Serge Knocks Over Cup' please? We're so close. Ready? Take 36."

Considering how much footage there must have been, what I've seen has been fairly well rounded.

Thought they even captured Poch and Eriksen's frustrations without throwing them under the bus etc. A simplified version of events, of course.

The moments of loneliness and questioning life-changing decisions v the attempts to rebuild good feeling and camaraderie in tough times. The human aspects.

Anyway, horses for courses. I'm pretty pleased it is what it is. A nice little bit of light entertainment with a bit of insight about the club I love.

BringBack_leGin · Sep 1, 2020

hughy said:
I have to admit I was a bit disappointed with Dier's reaction to that substitution. It must have been hard to take, but I consider him one of the "leaders" in our dressing room. If that ever happens again I hope he is up supporting the team instead of sat there sulking and feeling sorry for himself.

Then again it could have just been negatively edited of course.

I actually found it quite humanising, in fact that’s the effect this doc has had on most of the players who’ve had close attention except Harry who is still a god. Dier felt humiliated and it was during a poor patch for him, just as he thought there was light at the end of the tunnel with Mourinho. I’d be worried if he wasn’t palpably hurt after playing so poorly he was hooked after thirty minutes.

George94 · Sep 1, 2020

hughy said:
I have to admit I was a bit disappointed with Dier's reaction to that substitution. It must have been hard to take, but I consider him one of the "leaders" in our dressing room. If that ever happens again I hope he is up supporting the team instead of sat there sulking and feeling sorry for himself.

Then again it could have just been negatively edited of course.

I actually thought it was completely understandable - he'd been out the team for a long time, seems like he wasn't fancied by Poch anymore, brought into the lineup by Mourinho and then hooked after 29 minutes in the 3rd game (maybe?).

He didn't have a particularly strong first few games, so in the moment, he must have thought Mourinho doesn't think he's good enough his Spurs career was over.

Dougal · Sep 1, 2020

Watched the 3. Nothing earth shattering so far. It’s been suggested that it’s a very sanitised version of events but perhaps football has become so sanitised that this is actually how it is. Let’s be honest, lads in their 20s going about their working day are hardly going to be exhilarating viewing. Some things that needed to be said were said, good to see. Levy is probably the best CGI has to offer but he’s still not quite convincing. 6 episodes to go and then the fall out over editing and who was misrepresented. Meh. It is what it is but for entertainment I’d watch The Last Dance again.

kursaal · Sep 1, 2020

When are the next episodes up?

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