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Poch: In or Out? - You CAN change your vote

Should Poch stay or go?

  • Stay

    Votes: 657 55.3%
  • Go

    Votes: 532 44.7%

  • Total voters
    1,189

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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I’m no Mourinho fan, but shit football is shit football. A European trophy would see me celebrating for weeks on end, even if the football is shit.

This is officially the poorest period for trophy success this club has had in many decades.
I know its semantics, but this decade is actually the worst decade in the clubs history since the 1930's

Every other decade except two interrupted by the world war and there was no football has seen us win at least one trophy each decade
 

dudu

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Jan 28, 2011
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You are correct, and I think I've also been stating the same thing myself in the next manager thread.
Mourinho would come in, would probably leave after a couple of seasons, would probably not better the club but might just add to the trophy cabinet if he can win over the right present players.
And right now; I'd take that scenario. It's not really like I've become this great Mourinho fan. I just really believe that his sort of personality is a good fit for right here and now.
Anyone to me, anyone, besides a new fucking project manager.

I go through the motions daily and flip flop on this constantly.

To be an elite club, we need to do what other elite clubs do and that's play the situation. I just don't know if we, as a club, could handle being left in a way that Jose leaves some clubs.
 

carpediem991

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May 31, 2011
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Lol Conveniently missing zlantan, rashford, martial , Sanchez, pogba, Lukaku, Lingard, Mata

302 MILLION NET SPEND in 3 seasons and didn't come close to winning the league . But he won the European Johnstone paint trophy in a season when the biggest competition was the Ajax babies.
A couple of second tier trophies with the biggest club in the world
But I'm sure he'll have us competing with Liverpool

This new wave of mourhino fans are funny and terrifying at the same time.
He's finished in this country , he's model will never come close to winning anything other than a cup pool or city don't care about.

Thankfully I'm somewhat confident levy isn't a idiot


With Levy you can be sure there won't be that much net spend. Which is a good thing. If Jose could still agree working with the talent we have and is ready to add on our budget on needed positions, I would like to see that.
its far from a certain good match but where is one? Some risks are always there. With every coach you appoint. At least you would have someone that has achieved everywhere around 2 PPG and won titles.
 

carpediem991

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May 31, 2011
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I go through the motions daily and flip flop on this constantly.

To be an elite club, we need to do what other elite clubs do and that's play the situation. I just don't know if we, as a club, could handle being left in a way that Jose leaves some clubs.

In what state exactly is our club now? It does not seem to go fine at the club and the dressing room and just if we appoint Jose Levy will all of a sudden allow to splash cash everywhere.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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I go through the motions daily and flip flop on this constantly.

To be an elite club, we need to do what other elite clubs do and that's play the situation. I just don't know if we, as a club, could handle being left in a way that Jose leaves some clubs.
Good point and maybe Tottenham would not. But how will we handle not even the worst case but a pretty bad case scenario from where we currently are at? We are headed to disaster if something does not change.
 

Hakkz

Svensk hetsporre
Jul 6, 2012
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I admire your optimism, thinking we're on course to qualify for the EL ahead of any one of Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Leicester, Arsenal, United, Wolves, Bournemouth.

I've seen nothing from us to suggest we'll be finishing ahead of any of those teams.

Also, a club with "our ambition", if it were genuine, would have pulled the trigger on sacking the manager weeks ago.

(y)
 

guiltyparty

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Sep 21, 2005
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You just know that if we get Mourinho he'd still not win trophies, just to fuck with us. So we'd sell all of our moral high ground down the river and not even get our dirty hands filled. Grim
 

carpediem991

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May 31, 2011
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Wonder if some here just would be happy being in a fight for sixth position next year with Uncle Poch while Kane banging them in at Madrid.
 

Tiberius Gracchus

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Jan 22, 2004
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He’s lost the dressing room, a large chunk of players aren’t performing for him

Therefore:

1. Sack Poch
2. Let Poch move thise players on and build a team around the players who still back Poch

For now I’m still behind Poch and would allow him to stay and rebuild, however painful that is in the short term
 

carpediem991

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May 31, 2011
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He’s lost the dressing room, a large chunk of players aren’t performing for him

Therefore:

1. Sack Poch
2. Let Poch move thise players on and build a team around the players who still back Poch

For now I’m still behind Poch and would allow him to stay and rebuild, however painful that is in the short term

Foolish to have confidence that the club will invest in around 10 new players with the needed quality by next summer.
And as we have learned by Poch it takes us two years to fully integrate new players.
A process Kane , Son and co. in their prime surely support with patience. (y)
 
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He’s lost the dressing room, a large chunk of players aren’t performing for him

Therefore:

1. Sack Poch
2. Let Poch move thise players on and build a team around the players who still back Poch

For now I’m still behind Poch and would allow him to stay and rebuild, however painful that is in the short term
Say bye to Kane then.
 

Graysonti

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May 8, 2011
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He’s lost the dressing room, a large chunk of players aren’t performing for him

Therefore:

1. Sack Poch
2. Let Poch move thise players on and build a team around the players who still back Poch

For now I’m still behind Poch and would allow him to stay and rebuild, however painful that is in the short term

what, at the expense of Kane ?
 

freeeki

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Aug 5, 2008
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Foolish to have confidence that the club will invest in around 10 new players with the needed quality by next summer.
And as we have learned by Poch it takes us two years to fully integrate new players.
A process Kane , Son and co. in their prime surely support with patience. (y)

Our ITK suggests otherwise, and I believe them more than I believe what players who should be winning things must surely support.
 

archiewasking

Waiting for silverware..........
Jul 5, 2004
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(y)
It's quite obvious it's Kane, he was awful yesterday, a real lack of effort and desire. It's also quite telling that he has been so quiet on social media. Kane was always pretty regularly posting but he's been really quiet and it's also noticeable that as one of our senior players, there has been no rallying cry from him in support of the manager. You can tell he isn't happy.

I hope it happens tomorrow. Mourinho in charge for West Ham. If Eddie Howe gets it then I'll also be calling for Levy's head and my ST will go in the bin.

Send it to me mate. I'll put it in mine for you ?
 

dudu

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Jan 28, 2011
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In what state exactly is our club now? It does not seem to go fine at the club and the dressing room and just if we appoint Jose Levy will all of a sudden allow to splash cash everywhere.
Then what is Jose gonna do?

Think United are winning what they did without Pogba and Zlatan?
 

PeeLee

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Oct 2, 2019
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Fair enough and although those matches you mention rank up there with some of my finest Spurs moment, winning the EL would provide a pretty good one too.
Yeah, the Europa and League Cup aren't as great as the CL or FA Cup but any cup winning final day is a fantastic day, providing fantastic memories.
I'd rather that, than the current memories of the CL final.
The thing about that final, just like the Europa League Final between Arsenal and Chelsea a few days before, is that none of the four English clubs involved did themselves justice. All of them disappointed to some degree. Frustrating though our Spurs performance was on the night, and that bloody penalty awarded against us on such a silly basis within what, 24 seconds?, what was encouraging was that Spurs had so much more to express, and had not really played to our capabilities. It would have been far worse had we bust a bullock trying to win and yet still failed — that would have been ominous, and far more upsetting to contemplate, for where Tottenham is as a club. Perspective and getting things into proportion is everything.
 
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