The Rugby Thread

SugarRay · Oct 25, 2019

E17yid said:
Whatever happens on Sunday I will always love Gatland. What a job he’s done and no doubt in my mind he’s one of the best, if not the best, coach in the world. The way we’ve punched above our weight for the last decade is incredible from taking over in 2008 after our lowest point after being dumped out of the group stage by Fiji in the 2007 WC to winning the grand slam in 2008 and in the process getting our first win at Twickenham in 20 years with an amazing come back, to 2 WC semi finals and another 2 grand slams and another 6N championship.

He throws the odd grenade here and there but as Erasmus said in his press conference yesterday he’s a class act who always acts with dignity and respect (most of the time).

I think we’re going to really notice how important he is to us after this WC and I could see us falling away for a couple of years but he’s given Welsh fans so many happy memories. Hopefully there’s one more this Sunday.

He’s a results man for sure and I admire him. Done a great job with Wales.

He’s Mourinho like in his approach. Not in terms of personality and all that jazz but he’s pragmatic, it has to be said. Saffas represent your best chance of getting through based on who is left in the final four. Although they start as favourites and you’re missing a few and dare I say it, look very average in certain positions and on the bench, I could see you ‘sneaking’ another win. Got that knack of winning tight games, that’s a fantastic trait to have.

All Blacks will run riot in the final though if you do get through. I’m talking 40/50 points

E17yid · Oct 25, 2019

SugarRay said:
He’s a results man for sure and I admire him. Done a great job with Wales.

He’s Mourinho like in his approach. Not in terms of personality and all that jazz but he’s pragmatic, it has to be said. Saffas represent your best chance of getting through based on who is left in the final four. Although they start as favourites and you’re missing a few and dare I say it, look very average in certain positions and on the bench, I could see you ‘sneaking’ another win. Got that knack of winning tight games, that’s a fantastic trait to have.

All Blacks will run riot in the final though if you do get through. I’m talking 40/50 points

So you think we’ve got a half chance if we get to the final then. Lol.

Considering the players we’re missing I suppose our bench doesn’t look as good but the only one I would describe as average is Dee. I’m really excited about Rhys Carre, think he’s going to be a world class loose head In a few years. Having said that our bench would look better with Anscombe Moriarty and Halfpenny on it.

SugarRay · Oct 25, 2019

I change my prediction from ‘could see’ to ‘absolutely will see’ Wales win now.

What changed my mind? This unbiased, neutral take on proceedings -

The Wales v South Africa Rugby World Cup head-to-head ratings

Wales are aiming to reach the final for the first time when they clash with the two-time world champions in Yokohama

www.walesonline.co.uk

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E17yid · Oct 25, 2019

What you think about that Vermeulen tackle that Wayne missed, @SugarRay ?

SugarRay · Oct 25, 2019

E17yid said:
What you think about that Vermeulen tackle that Wayne missed, @SugarRay ?

In current game it’s borderline red.

Gatland using it to put pressure on ref, tricks, mindgames etc, some love it I guess. Do well to get him cited and banned before Sunday though mate

E17yid · Oct 25, 2019

SugarRay said:
In current game it’s borderline red.

Gatland using it to put pressure on ref, tricks, mindgames etc, some love it I guess. Do well to get him cited and banned before Sunday though mate

Oh yeah, it’s not a coincidence that he’s bringing it up. And obviously he’s not getting cited at all if he hasn’t by now for some mental reason.

There’s nothing borderline about it. I’d be interested to hear why you think it is.

mpickard2087 · Oct 25, 2019

Looking forward to the matches. The four best teams in the world currently for me, by some distance, lets hope they go out and show it and treat us.

From an England perspective, I think it's the right team and approach. To beat NZ you have to be able to take the game to them and score tries. Obviously a huge test, and if the All Blacks play with the pace, power, and precision they showed in the first 40 mins or so last week then that's going to be beat any team, but I think and hope we can give a really good account of ourselves and then we shall see what ultimately happens.

SugarRay · Oct 25, 2019

E17yid said:
Oh yeah, it’s not a coincidence that he’s bringing it up. And obviously he’s not getting cited at all if he hasn’t by now for some mental reason.

There’s nothing borderline about it. I’d be interested to hear why you think it is.

Well I’m not keen on dishing out cards left right and centre. It’s a brutal sport at this level and it’s easy to mistime things etc

Obviously above isn’t a timing issue and it probably is a red card but I’m not one for picking through everything, especially when it’s long gone and no damage has been done etc, and pointing fingers, squealing etc

E17yid · Oct 25, 2019

SugarRay said:
Well I’m not keen on dishing out cards left right and centre. It’s a brutal sport at this level and it’s easy to mistime things etc

Obviously above isn’t a timing issue and it probably is a red card but I’m not one for picking through everything, especially when it’s long gone and no damage has been done etc, and pointing fingers, squealing etc

I’m more talking about the laws as they stand. I personally thought the Lavanini one should’ve been a yellow but accepted it was red by the letter of the law but at least Lavanini did bend a bit and Farrell did dip slightly going into it and he did wrap his arms. Vermeulen was upright the Japanese player was upright and Vermeulen clotheslined him across his neck. It’s not really Barnes’ fault for not seeing it but how the TMO didn’t see pull that up or how it’s wasn’t reviewed post game is crazy considering what they’ve been dishing out this WC.

E17yid · Oct 26, 2019

Just to get back at @teok and his shameful dig at Shane Williams but Johnny Wilkinson is the most boring pundit by far. Zero emotion, he’s sending me back to sleep. The less said about Sir Clive the bell end the better.

spursfan77 · Oct 26, 2019

Got a bad feeling about this

E17yid · Oct 26, 2019

spursfan77 said:
Got a bad feeling about this

Well, yeah, you’re playing the All Blacks, mate.

E17yid · Oct 26, 2019

That clip they just showed of Cockerill fronting up the Haka always brings a smile to my face. I think he lasted about 10mins until he had to go off due to his face getting smashed in. You don’t go disrespecting the Haka like that.

Arnoldtoo · Oct 26, 2019

If England did their own national Haka, would it have to be a Morris dance?

jyoshinmonchris · Oct 26, 2019

Arnoldtoo said:
If England did their own national Haka, would it have to be a Morris dance?

Absolutely! ?

Cmon you AB's!

E17yid · Oct 26, 2019

Arnoldtoo said:
If England did their own national Haka, would it have to be a Morris dance?

That’d be better than your national anthem.

Arnoldtoo · Oct 26, 2019

E17yid said:
That’d be better than your national anthem.

And with bells on.

dagraham · Oct 26, 2019

Out of all the main sports Rugby is the only one I’m pretty ignorant about.

However, I’m really looking forward to this match.

E17yid · Oct 26, 2019

Farrells face ?

Mr.D · Oct 26, 2019

This is such a shit haka. Ka Mate is much better. This one smacks of "look the fuck at us. Ain't we quite the boys".

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