Your point doesn't make any sense so I t's difficult to respond to. No we didn't win anything after VDV joined but we did step up another level. Partly because of him, partly other players. The team definitely got better as a result of his arrival. That's why any team buys players, right? To get better and be more competitive. Which is all most Spurs fans want.So, in other words, you couldn't answer my point? Some of Rose's comments are idiotic and frankly disrespectful: he was a nobody going nowhere when Poch showed faith in him and coached him like never before. He should stop parroting his uncle.