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THFCSPURS19

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Thought it was 61,400. Obviously some mistake

Reckon they could get 75k if the put standing in the kop one day. That would be mental.
I think they've already said that only just under 2k could be added if safe standing was allowed.
 

Lilbaz

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Given he wants the NFL at Tottenham oh yes there is.

Given that in the mayors report on this he said that the buildings should be kept, no there isn't.

I hope it does and that the other reports etc.. Will sway it. But i wont count anything just yet.
 

Lilbaz

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They pay vat, paye, corporation tax, council tax, national insurance, income tax on salaries and dividends. That should be enough without having to build cheap houses and schools.

The government should be building these thngs where they are needed, not shafting the private sector for freebies

How do you think government get money to build stuff? From the private sector in one form or another. Just consider s106's as a development tax.
We've been let off ours for good reason. Consider it a rebate.
 

Spurs1960

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But Spurs could have decided to spend more money on marketing/brand building and not put money into charity.

Good news for the local area is that Spurs are supporting the charity sector - and as the biggest contributor of all PL clubs we've got some publicity out of it. Probably not as effective a use of money as marketing but why not get whatever kudos you can - and its not like we trumpet it around, its just mentioned from time to time - and we celebrated the first decade of the Spurs foundation recently.

And its a good way to show Spurs are putting something back into the community - and its probably more effective than a lot of government initiatives over the last 50 years in Tottenham

Tourism.
NFL
A wall climbing thingy
61,000 people with money to spend in the local economy
Investment as a result of the stadium
Hotel
Jobs
Upgrading the area

I'd say we are putting something back into the community all right, we are the reason it is dragging itself out of poverty while some still wish to cling to it.
 

Spurs1960

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Given that in the mayors report on this he said that the buildings should be kept, no there isn't.

I hope it does and that the other reports etc.. Will sway it. But i wont count anything just yet.

Three buildings to stand in the way of the NFL and tell the world not to invest in Haringey. Not a hope in hell. Rubber stamp job, simple as.
 

Hoops

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How do you think government get money to build stuff? From the private sector in one form or another. Just consider s106's as a development tax.
We've been let off ours for good reason. Consider it a rebate.
Lol
 

Graysonti

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Given that in the mayors report on this he said that the buildings should be kept, no there isn't.

I hope it does and that the other reports etc.. Will sway it. But i wont count anything just yet.


Lol - ok mate

£600-700m investments v three shitty buildings
 

Spursidol

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Thought it was 61,400. Obviously some mistake

Reckon they could get 75k if the put standing in the kop one day. That would be mental.


Depends how its counted, its 61,508 from the official plans, third page in this document. http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=748453

General admission 53,040
Corporate Hospitality 8,091
Media 233
Players bench and medical 97
Sub Total Total 61,461
Wheelchair Positions 47 (not seats so not included in the seated capacity)
Total 61, 508

In NFL mode I think the number of seats are slightly reduced.


Page 2 -
By locating hospitality seating (boxes in the west and club seating within the east, including Champions League Lounge) at the rear of the lower tiers within these stands, it allows space for an additional floor of hospitality over the previous scheme. This allows the locating of all hospitality seating to be within these two stands without the need to use the two end stand (south and north) and without a reduction in overall hospitality seating numbers, indeed the hospitality provision increased nominally over the previous scheme.
 
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Hoopspur

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Thought it was 61,400. Obviously some mistake

Reckon they could get 75k if the put standing in the kop one day. That would be mental.

In theory we could get towards your figure (74k max according to below), but probably the actual heath and safety and logistics would not allow that. Exits, entrances / access would all come under close scrutiny, as would the whole flow of the area. Atmosphere wise I'm sure it would be amazing, but logistics I'm afraid not.

17k seats x 1.8 standing?

"The situation is different in relation to accommodation solely designed for standing (no seats are provided) or rail seated areas with higher density safe standing (between 1 and 1.8 standing fans for every 1 seat, as allowed in the Government’s Green Guide). - See more at: http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/safe-standing-facts/#sthash.rcZFvNpZ.dpuf"
 

Dov67

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We are a private company that brings in a huge amount of revenue for the government and more money for Haringey than any other business in the borough by a long long way.

It is the Council and government duty and obligation to provide housing for the people of Haringey NOT Tottenham Hotspur FC.

I've been coming to WHL since the early 80's - the High Road was a shithole then and its got worse and worse. That's down to local and central govt neglect. Having been guilty go that neglect, no doubt they'd like THFC to cover their arse financially and fill the financial gap they are responsible for over the last 3 or so decades.

I think THFC have done far more for the area than any two-bob councillor had any right to expect. We should not be held financially, morally or ethically responsible for the local and central govt financial neglect stretching back 30 years..........end of.
 

Hoopspur

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It most probably will. I'm just nervous. We're spurs.

Just heard they want to put HS2.2 straight through the centre of Tottenham and all planning permissions that have been given recently are to be revoked and called in...:sneaky:
 

SurreySpur82

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Pretty sure that only the bottom 10 rows or so (the bit that lifts up to allow the pitch to slide out) of the kop stand have been provisioned for future safe standing.
 

Spursidol

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Pretty sure that only the bottom 10 rows or so (the bit that lifts up to allow the pitch to slide out) of the kop stand have been provisioned for future safe standing.

I'm pretty sure that 'safe seating' will be a problem at Spurs (assuming safe seating becomes legal) - purely because even with improved transport links the number of people who can safely get in and out of the ground will be very limited, possibly close to the 61,000 odd capacity planned. Maybe after a season or two of the new stadium being in operation it might be possible to say things are going better than planned so capacity could be increased - otherwise it may need to wait until HS2 becomes operational for the next transport improvement to increase capacity.

Economically the only way safe seating works is that more people can get into the ground with safe seating - but if more people cannot get in and out of the ground, 'safe seating' won't be charged at much less than ordinary seating......
 

Led's Zeppelin

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I'm pretty sure that 'safe seating' will be a problem at Spurs (assuming safe seating becomes legal) - purely because even with improved transport links the number of people who can safely get in and out of the ground will be very limited, possibly close to the 61,000 odd capacity planned. Maybe after a season or two of the new stadium being in operation it might be possible to say things are going better than planned so capacity could be increased - otherwise it may need to wait until HS2 becomes operational for the next transport improvement to increase capacity.

Economically the only way safe seating works is that more people can get into the ground with safe seating - but if more people cannot get in and out of the ground, 'safe seating' won't be charged at much less than ordinary seating......

Is safe seating the PC term for safe standing?
 

greaves

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It most probably will. I'm just nervous. We're spurs.
Yep. The old instinctive Spurs anxiety. Seeing the clouds hurtling towards us on even the sunniest of days. The only reason the new stadium's a bowl is because we're so bad at corners.
 
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