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raggy

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Wonder if that's an indication he may get a start against Anderlecht mid-week. Might even have got himself ahead of Townsend?
 

Cornpattbuck

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I've no idea why so many think 5-1 is a prime time to bring kids on. It gives the player absolutely no indication of what they need to be working towards and the coach no idea whether they can trust what they're seeing on the training ground. Anyway, it's a battle that'll rage on! COYS!
 

Spursidol

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I've no idea why so many think 5-1 is a prime time to bring kids on. It gives the player absolutely no indication of what they need to be working towards and the coach no idea whether they can trust what they're seeing on the training ground. Anyway, it's a battle that'll rage on! COYS!

The primary reason why so many think its a risk to bring on kids is they will make mistakes - well if you are 5-1 ahead the odd mistake mistake is unlikely to cost you the match

But its a fallacy that kids make that many mistakes anyway - many experienced pros will have an off day and put in worst performances than the kids
 

Spursidol

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Wonder if that's an indication he may get a start against Anderlecht mid-week. Might even have got himself ahead of Townsend?

If you are talking Onomah v Townsend, they are totally different players. Onomah can play no 10 or CM but doesn't play well out on the wings.

Townsend can only play on the wings, never played centrally.

With the options we've got, think Townsend will start against Anderlecht, not sure Poch will risk starting Onomah against Anderlecht (he's played only a few minutes of first team football), but love him to get 20/30 minutes.
 

Spursidol

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A bit odd to us, probably yeah, but you have to have trust in the player to put him on in that situation, I think that sub appearance was a far bigger moment for Onomah and Pochs trust of him than 15-20 mins against Bournemouth.

Fair point, but would have preferred him to get both minutes against Bournemouth and tonight - greedy maybe, but that would have accelerated his development, and maybe given him a better chance of a half or so v Anderlecht (and with our injury list playing Onomah for a half and resting one of the first team players ahead of the PL match at the weekend would be good for the team)
 

raggy

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If you are talking Onomah v Townsend, they are totally different players. Onomah can play no 10 or CM but doesn't play well out on the wings.

Townsend can only play on the wings, never played centrally.

With the options we've got, think Townsend will start against Anderlecht, not sure Poch will risk starting Onomah against Anderlecht (he's played only a few minutes of first team football), but love him to get 20/30 minutes.
I've seen Poch put Onomah out on the sides for a while in pre-season. Obviously not a natural winger, but it works in a similar way to when Dembele plays out on the right. As long as he presses and comes inside and gets involved in play it can work.

It's not like Townsend gets up to much out there lately anyway.
 

Spursidol

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I've seen Poch put Onomah out on the sides for a while in pre-season. Obviously not a natural winger, but it works in a similar way to when Dembele plays out on the right. As long as he presses and comes inside and gets involved in play it can work.

It's not like Townsend gets up to much out there lately anyway.

Dembele plays ok as an RM, Onomah really doesn't (nor Mason for that matter either) so its not great for the team when Onomah plays there whereas its not too bad if Dembele does.
 

raggy

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Dembele plays ok as an RM, Onomah really doesn't (nor Mason for that matter either) so its not great for the team when Onomah plays there whereas its not too bad if Dembele does.
Didn't Onomah play out on the left against Milan pre-season and look pretty good?
 

Bofbro

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Soo pleased to see Poch has confidence in Onomah, the kid is super talented, maybe our biggest natural talent along with Edwards and Kirby
 

spurs9

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Didn't Onomah play out on the left against Milan pre-season and look pretty good?
He did play there, but I remember posters from here had to constantly remind people he isn't a winger as he was getting a lot of shit for that performance.
 

beats1

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If you are talking Onomah v Townsend, they are totally different players. Onomah can play no 10 or CM but doesn't play well out on the wings.

Townsend can only play on the wings, never played centrally.

With the options we've got, think Townsend will start against Anderlecht, not sure Poch will risk starting Onomah against Anderlecht (he's played only a few minutes of first team football), but love him to get 20/30 minutes.
Personally I feel we have to start Onomah against Anderlecht, as we may not have Son(Im not 100% he is ready despite that interview), no Chadli, no N'Jie(even if he is fit start him instead of Kane) and no Pritchard, whilst having no Bentaleb either.

So our midfield options are poor, I personally don't want to see the same team playing Arsenal to play Anderlecht and judging by our bench today that only leaves Mason, Townsend and Onomah as alternative options in midfield.

Arsenal will have a longer rest and will want it more than us as it is a must win game for them. As Arsene has got the backing of the fans and a poor result in Munich will mean they need a good result in PL to show they are serious contenders for the title.

If other players do come back than 30mins to a half is fine but I think the next 3 games are the defining point of our season and the true test of where we really are. Like last season when we played arsenal in the second half of the season. We beat them but lost to Liverpool and then drew to West Ham and for final 12 games we didnt really seem we where there yet.

Whilst this is really early in to the season, if we do get 6 points from the next 3 games then we are a team that is serious contenders for the top 4 as opposed to a team with a great chance
 

beats1

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Dembele plays ok as an RM, Onomah really doesn't (nor Mason for that matter either) so its not great for the team when Onomah plays there whereas its not too bad if Dembele does.
Didn't Onomah play out on the left against Milan pre-season and look pretty good?
He did play there, but I remember posters from here had to constantly remind people he isn't a winger as he was getting a lot of shit for that performance.
Part of the issue is that he does have a lack of power in his shots and his finishing isn't great, he can pull out some great finishes but he doesn't do it consistently. I think this was again highlighted by the run he did today. He was looking for harry to do a run to put him through and when he released there wasn't an opportunity he went for the shot but it was weak

Not to mention his lack of experience of running at players square on, on to his right rather than taking them on.
 

spurs9

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Personally I feel we have to start Onomah against Anderlecht, as we may not have Son(Im not 100% he is ready despite that interview), no Chadli, no N'Jie(even if he is fit start him instead of Kane) and no Pritchard, whilst having no Bentaleb either.

So our midfield options are poor, I personally don't want to see the same team playing Arsenal to play Anderlecht and judging by our bench today that only leaves Mason, Townsend and Onomah as alternative options in midfield.

Arsenal will have a longer rest and will want it more than us as it is a must win game for them. As Arsene has got the backing of the fans and a poor result in Munich will mean they need a good result in PL to show they are serious contenders for the title.

If other players do come back than 30mins to a half is fine but I think the next 3 games are the defining point of our season and the true test of where we really are. Like last season when we played arsenal in the second half of the season. We beat them but lost to Liverpool and then drew to West Ham and for final 12 games we didnt really seem we where there yet.

Whilst this is really early in to the season, if we do get 6 points from the next 3 games then we are a team that is serious contenders for the top 4 as opposed to a team with a great chance
I'm fearful for our next 3 league games, we have a growing injury list, Arsenal game is after a must win EL game, Chelsea is after a trip to Azerbaijan and I can't see Alli or Lamela getting through Arsenal & West Ham games with out a Yellow card, so they will most likely be suspended for one of those games.
 

beats1

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Sterling was on the bench today and a part of the match day squad, I think I know why but its good to see, its going to be an interesting week thats for sure

Scratch that make that month
 

Bofbro

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Sterling was on the bench today and a part of the match day squad, I think I know why but its good to see, its going to be an interesting week thats for sure

Scratch that make that month
I saw him sat behind the bench aswell along with Carroll who I believe is injured, surely Harrison is a little ahead atm.
 

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Clinton was not on the bench today.

I missed the build up and first 15 min plus nipped out at half time so didn't see the bench.

Looking at the bench it's full of defenders we don't have any strikers or attacking players a side Townsend, Harrison and sterling hopefully will get some bench time in the EL. Has sterling got pace, I have seen him a few times sometimes he looks quick and sometimes slow, then again Kane some games looks slow and other times he shows pace.
 
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newbie

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Part of the issue is that he does have a lack of power in his shots and his finishing isn't great, he can pull out some great finishes but he doesn't do it consistently. I think this was again highlighted by the run he did today. He was looking for harry to do a run to put him through and when he released there wasn't an opportunity he went for the shot but it was weak

Not to mention his lack of experience of running at players square on, on to his right rather than taking them on.

Hopefully confidence and practice can sort this out training full time with Chadli, eriksen, son and Kane will help as they are all good finishers. I thought he came on in the middle to start with as a 10 then drifted left after.
 
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