SpainSpur85
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I've noticed a lot of you are taking the 2nd of Sept off work for 'deadline day', it's really because it's my birthday isn't it? Are you throwing me a suprise party??
The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread - 29/30 June 2013
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Brazilyid
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You've bloody ruined it now. And we all put in so much hard work.
Parkie
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Apparently he was available (is?) on a free and Newcastle had him all wrapped up and Kinnear canceled the deal because he had never heard of him.
jedimonkey
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Going back to the Swindon ITK, we had three players on loan there at the same time last season, so unless the rules have changed then I smell something fishy and it ain't my cock, as Mrs A&C keeps herself fresh.
EJWTartanSpur
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Ekotto wasn't great when he first came in but the only reason he may have ever ended up behind some of those names was due to a huge injury set back that last for 18 odd months plus !
Ifil - goodness me, there's a name from the not too distant past that I'd managed to erase from my memory !
I always think that fullbacks cantake longer to mature and become less error prone, because positioning and anticipation are so key to their game ie mental attributes that do continue to grow right through your career age irregardless.
Yes, any talented young buck fullback can bomb forward with the ball, offer an overlap and produce some good last ditch tackles, but knowing how to snuff out an electric winger or a technically talented inside forward is an art that requires much practice and growth.
The young fullback who possesses those gifts right from the start are few and far between, most likely intelligent and worth their weight in gold.
Maldini, Lahm spring to mind and as another example of a fullback who was solid from the start I think you can see how intelligent , in relative terms, Gary Neville has turned out to be in his punditry
Ifil - goodness me, there's a name from the not too distant past that I'd managed to erase from my memory !
I always think that fullbacks cantake longer to mature and become less error prone, because positioning and anticipation are so key to their game ie mental attributes that do continue to grow right through your career age irregardless.
Yes, any talented young buck fullback can bomb forward with the ball, offer an overlap and produce some good last ditch tackles, but knowing how to snuff out an electric winger or a technically talented inside forward is an art that requires much practice and growth.
The young fullback who possesses those gifts right from the start are few and far between, most likely intelligent and worth their weight in gold.
Maldini, Lahm spring to mind and as another example of a fullback who was solid from the start I think you can see how intelligent , in relative terms, Gary Neville has turned out to be in his punditry
CoopsieDeadpool
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For the first bit of bold, don't be ridiculous, S_B.. You know full well that I said MUCH more than just pointing out his caps. Where is Crouch playing now? Where has his footballing journey taken him? Would he be retained for 5 years after somebody with unlimited finances & access to (and employed) some of the biggest managers in the world, had taken over the club he was representing?
As for the second bold part, I've looked but couldn't find anything anywhere
. However, considering Richards started out as a RB & gained pretty much all of his caps as a kid/youngster (though he's still very much a youngster), I'd hazard a guess that he got more caps at RB than Walker's current count of 4, and that was whilst competing with Gary Neville, not Glenn bloody Johnson.As for the last part, apart from the bit that you quoted, that's just your own personal opinion, which just happens to be the opposite of my opinion & the opinion of Bus-conductor.
There is, however, one common denominator within our opinions. Pretty much EVERY defender is error-strewn when they are at the ages of Walker & Richards (as was pointed out just now in my response to Timberwolf, about Rose), even the great Ledgeley King needed someone to come in & iron out the creases.
EDIT: But I feel I/we should stop with this? After all, there's been no ITK on either of Walker, Crouch or Richards & I'm more than happy to remove the posts if it stops the thread from being closed.
SpainSpur85
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It's ok, I can still act suprised
but in my defence, I don't think anyone has done any hard work since they registered on here 
SpurSince57
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Not to mention his worryingly persistent knee and ankle problems. Oh, and as far as I'm aware there has been absolutely no ITK linking us to him, a fact that A&C will doubtless point out at some juncture.
Breezer
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Yep we can really see Liverpool replacing Enrique with Rose.
Your first paragraph sums it up for me. You say I'm being harsh and not many of our young prospects would ever get a chance. Reality check! That's because 95% aren't good enough to be playing for a top prem league team. Ledley King, Sol Scumball. How many other quality youth players have we blooded through. The same goes for Livermore! Not good enough for any top prem team. Don't get me wrong because I don't rate BAE but Danny Rose is not the answer to Left back. If we want to progress then we buy another quality left back and use BAE as cover.
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Hoopspur
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DeGlas, farckin' Deuglas? You're farckin' 'aving a farckin larf. Don't want no farckin' Dooglis round 'ere. He's a farkin' **** that farkin' Duglis.....
...remind me who's that Douglas again? Oh, and get me that Kloop geezer on the blower....
Sorry, no ITK on Douglas though is there?
Timberwolf
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I'm not saying we need to give every prospect a run in the first team, but when a player impresses on loan at a why should our default reaction be to sell him because he's not good enough? I agree with you on Livermore, but he's shown over the course of 2 seasons that he's not good enough. Rose on the other hand has gone out on loan and impressed, much like Walker did (for a terrible Villa side, might I add), but you want to write him off. I don't get it.
YiddoInPoland
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itk a few days ago looks like it might happen, kickicking off in the player thread about the young croatian kid
EDIT: it was ITK from JJ
EDIT: it was ITK from JJ
wiggo24
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Jedvag thread going crazy, some reliable croatian paper says we've signed him and halilovic for 20m euros . Would be absolutely brilliant.
Sorry if this isnt allowed in here, but we've had ITK on these two so I thought it might be OK since its relatively big news. Will delete if necessary of course.
. Would be absolutely brilliant.Sorry if this isnt allowed in here, but we've had ITK on these two so I thought it might be OK since its relatively big news. Will delete if necessary of course.
Breezer
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Walker ha always been a defender! Danny rose is playing left back because he's not good enough to play left wing. I understand what you're saying an maybe he does deserve some football at spurs. But IMO he would weaken our current team.
Roynie
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It's ok, I can still act suprised
Oh I don't know, it's bloody hard work reading some of the posts on here!
Greenspur
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I just hope I I don't get cancelled while on the table (I.e. die).Good luck with the surgery, Gs... Hopefully you don't get it cancelled 2 days before it's due, like I did
Are you due for a second attempt?
Timberwolf
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Ok, fair enough. Personally I think it would be wasteful to not give him a chance, and the LB-LW thing doesn't really matter any more since he spent the entire season at Sunderland impressing at LB. By all means ship him out next summer if he doesn't cut it, but I struggle to see him being any worse than BAE was for the majority of last season (plus he's only 22 and has plenty of time to improve).
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