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DaSpurs

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So you are recommending as many or more incomers than last summer plus a new manager who isn't likely to start until he has had his holidays after the World Cup. At best next season would be a settling in season and at worse we could be struggling in the bottom half with so many changes.

Left winger and arguably left back could use replacements, and we may not really have a choice at center back. Striker and GK I think we'd be likely looking for second choice options anyway. All that in mind, it won't be anything like this past summer, and that's even including a better CM acquisition I also think would be to huge benefit.
 

SpartanSpur

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Semi Realistic Dream Scenario:

LVG in, keep Lloris and Vertonghen gets his act together.

Strengthening required:-
Key LVG Player - Swap Paulinho and cash (?) for Strootman (highly unlikely for numerous reasons, but would be perfect). Paulinho stock should be high after WC.
ST - Lukaku - Chelsea do a Sturridge and dismiss us as a threat
LW - Konoplyanka - Liverpool set sights higher now
A LEFT BACK! - Daley Blind? Luke Shaw must be out of reach now
CB - Sign Caulker back/Lescott free transfer if hard on cash

I'd also love us to go all out for Lallana but think he is also out of reach.

Sell:-
Gomes
Lennon
Sigurdsson
Livermore
Paulinho (if he wants out and we get a better passer to replace)
Sell Capoue or find Bentaleb a PL loan
Release Friedel (or player/coach)
Either Ade or Soldado if right offer comes in
Listen to offers for Dawson, Naughton and Rose

More likely scenario:-

Lloris, Vertonghen, Paulinho, Capoue out for big money
Begovic, Caulker, Milner to replace
Benteke in, Ade to Turkey
Ben Davies/Aaron Cresswell in at LB
Konoplyanka/Jay Rodriguez for LM
Go back for Kovacic (but likely fail) if still unsettled at Inter
Another net transfer gain and a season of transition...

The latter doesn't fill me with confidence...
 

SpartanSpur

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Finally read back through the thread and I have noticed a lot of emphasis on the dangers of high player turnover. Whilst I fully agree with the issues with this and I hate that we seem to be in perma-transition but I honestly don't think it applies to us this summer. And here's why:-

-Regardless of transfers we will be in transition
-New manager (hopefully!)
-Need to develop a style of play (there clearly isn't one right now)
-Build team understanding, reduce amount of rotation of players and formations
-Still waiting for last years signings to settle
-Likely to have to replace Lloris, Vertonghen and possibly Paulinho, on top of the 2-3 positions that need improvement in the first team

There's no point sticking with an unbalanced squad for the sake of continuity when everything is likely to be changing at the club in the summer. If we already had LVG/new manager in for 4 months and were exhibiting a style of play and team chemistry then continuity would be a valid request. This season has turned us into a blank canvas team wise (tactics and personnel), such a disorganised mess.

We have no option other than to start again like we did at the start of Harry's tenure. I honestly think Levy is thinking the same and I'm therefore hopeful of a net spend for once this summer, and around 5 new players and a large number shipped out.
 

neptunes

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Should LVG come in, hope he holds on to Llloris,Verts, Vlad, Lamela, Eriksen, Sandro, Walker, Chadli, Capoue, maybe Townsend, Kaboul, Paoulinho. Get in whoever he thinks will fit his system and Tottenham's. COYS
 

eddiebailey

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I know I mentioned earlier in this thread that if we add a proven, experienced coach (LVG) that I think anything that happens after that is gravy, but I do know there will undoubtedly be changes.

I see a lot of change coming this summer.

Some potential outs:
  • Hugo Lloris : We all know how great he is, but he's going to know that 2014 will represent another CL-less season unless he moves. We could try to give him an improved deal, but he strikes me as the type of guy who simply values playing on the big stage. It sucks, but it may be an unfortunate truth.
  • Jan Vertonghen: You could pretty much copy/paste what I said about Lloris into here. I also think the way some of the fans have gotten on him about his emotion on the pitch (which is dumb as shit in my opinion) could help him with deciding to move on. Needless to say, he's going to command a really good fee.
  • Younes Kaboul: I honestly have no idea what his contract situation is. I'm aware of the interview where he said it runs until Summer 2015 but most of what I've seen is it's up this summer. We will have to see I guess. He's still got ability and if he can show the ability to stay health over the next month +, we should look to extend him even if we can only rely on him as a 4th CB due to injuries.
  • Aaron Lennon: Nothing but respect for the little guy for the dedication he's shown to the club, but he's simply not a very good player. Far too inconsistent, his attacking play has been pretty damn near bad and if it weren't for his work rate he really wouldn't have much of anything going for his game.
  • Paulinho: I think his comments were pretty clear that he'd be open to a move. I still think he's a great talent and I hope if we sell him it's outside of the league. Also could command a large fee after he will likely have a great WC for Brazil as they are incredibly good at getting everything out of his talent.
  • Livermore: He's had a good season for Hull, but I just don't think we'd keep him around. Maybe we would if Paulinho is gone and we could loan Carroll and/or Bentaleb to an EPL side.
My Additions:

  • Michy Batshuayi (ST/WF): Great, young talent that can play across a front 3 given his physical talent and also his ability on the ball. Could breakthrough in the team similar to how Benteke/Lukaku have done in their transition from Belgium's top league to the EPL.
  • Ricardo Rodriguez (LB): In my opinion, one of the best LBs in the game and would cost a pretty penny to add given the fact that Wolfsburg aren't strapped for cash. 5 goals and 7 assists as a LB, we could use this.
  • Fabian Schar (CB): I think he'd be a great addition to the side after losing Vertonghen. I was on the fence about him until I watched the match against Chelsea where they won 1-0 and he was a rock. Helped Basel keep a clean sheet. Another young CB to add to the group.
  • Cheikhou Kouyate (CB): Another physically talented CB, Kouyate is a bit different from Schar in that while he's got great recovery ability and he's also shown some good technical ability, he's a more imposing CB that can really dominate in the air. He's a very good defender that if put next to the right partner could really see our defense take a needed step forward. He's played as DM as well which could be useful should we also lose a guy like Capoue. I view his addition, or a player of similar ability, as a necessity if Kaboul or Dawson were to exit.
  • Yevhen Konoplyanka (LW) : I think we need pace on the wings and I love the thought of Kono, Eriksen and Lamela behind any striker. I don't need to explain the reasoning. He's good, he'd provide something we don't really have and he could help round out our attacking front.
  • Fraser Forster (GK): I like him. I hate trying to evaluate GKs so I'm just going with him. Different style to Lloris but I don't think that's bad either, so long as we don't play a suicidal high line under LVG, which we won't.
So, we would lose quite a few talented players, but in my opinion replace them with some young, exciting talents that could grow here at Tottenham. They aren't proven world-beaters, and I'm sure some won't like that. But, we've seen young players make the difference for teams. I feel like these additions would go a long way in repairing a side with easily observed holes and do so while not spending an exorbitant amount of money on a singular talent. Once again, the most important thing for us is getting a capable coach.

------------------- Forster ----------------------
Walker--- Kaboul -------- Chiriches -- Rodriguez
------------ Sandro ----- Dembele --------------
Lamela --------- Eriksen -----------Konoplyanka
------------------ Soldado ----------------------

Five new outfield players none with Premiership experience? When we have barely made any progress integrating the last lot?
 

RuskyM

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So you are recommending as many or more incomers than last summer plus a new manager who isn't likely to start until he has had his holidays after the World Cup. At best next season would be a settling in season and at worse we could be struggling in the bottom half with so many changes.

We bought in seven players in AVB's first season too, plus I only assumed two would be non-PL experience (one is a player LVG adores and one is someone who we know performs). If we need a keeper I'd go all out for Begovic or Krul and if we need a centre back I'd recommend Lescott personally.
 

WexfordTownSpur

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I think a lot depends on who stays, so here is who I think will go. Lloris, Soldado, Lamela, Verts, Paulinho, Chadli, maybe more - I think Lennon, Dawson, Rose, Kane are not good enough - IF, we are still looking to be a top 4 side, but not sure we are, I think top 6.
 

jezz

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I see a lot of people ditching Capoue, why is that exactly?
Pop over to the Lamela thread and watch the highlights of the sheriff game.
Capoue holding with Eriksen and Lamela looked seriously good.
Just because Tim and Les dont like the DM wont mean the next manager dosent.
Flogging Capoue is a mistake, we wont get a better DM for the money
 

brasil_spur

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Manager: LVG

GK: Lloris + 2 others (not too concerned who)

RB: Walker + New RB
CB: Kaboul + Dawson
CB: Verts + Chiriches
LB: New LB + Fryers

DM: Sandro + Capoue
CM: Paulinho + Dembele + Bentaleb
AM: Erikssen + Holtby

RW: Lamela + New RW
LW: New LW + Townsend

ST: New ST + Adebayor + Soldado
 

GobbyJJ

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Well you may think this is some sort of self-indulgent rant. And you're probably correct but this is how i would like to see our squad next year.

Manager - LVG, I believe what we need is someone experienced to get this rabble under control and playing football the way its meant to be played. Would also allow us to play a 4-3-3 which I think is the system best suited to our current players.

Defence - Walker I believe with some good coaching can be top notch. Fredericks can be good but is a little inexperienced at the moment so i would keep Naughton for at least another year although I believe he is a good passer and would like to see him tried in midfield. I may be talking drivel but would like to see it tried. If nothing else it would shut me up. If LVG is the boss he does have a reputation of converting players to new positions, ie Schweinsteiger (spelling?)

Vertongen, Kaboul (if the sticky tape can hold him together) and Chiriches I would keep. Need to add one more dominant top quality CB, maybe Schar. Maybe could use Verts & Vlad if or when require in holding midfield roles. Unfortunately as much as he loves the club, Dawson has to go.

As previously stated every so often on this site, we need a LB DESPERATELY!
My knowledge of European football is certainly not as vast as many people on this site and although Rodriguez of Wolfsburg is highly rated I don't know enough about him and not sure we could afford him. Likewise I would rule out Shaw, sure he is going to CFC anyway. I don't really rate Davies yet. I know he's young but he isn't first name down for Swansea always. I'd go with Blind of Ajax. Appears a good LB with ability to go forward. Rose with some coaching may be an adequate back-up. If not we can ship him out. I would keep Fryers as 3rd choice and 5th choice CB. Looked good when he played at CB in Europa tie.

Happer with our midfield options. Would keep Paulinho as I feel he will become a much better player following a years acclimatisation. A guy who starts for Brazil is no mug. He starts above Fernandinho (spelling) so he has got to be a bit special. A lot of people are crying out for a deep lying midfielder but with Eriksen and Holtby further up the pitch I don't feel we need one. City and Chelsea have their playmakers, ie Silva & Hazard, further forward. I would also keep Siggy and use him as a box to box midfielder in a midfield 3. His main attribute is his goals and we need to use this. Arguably rotate him with Paulinho. Wait for the new manager to come in and evaluate the likes of Dembele, Carrol & Livermore to make his judgement on them.

In forward positions I believe buy someone like Konoplanka, very quick, and use him wih Lamela in the wide positions of a front 3. I would keep Challi, who i would also try up front, and Townsend, who undoubtedly has abiity, to cover these positions. Lennon has to go. No end product. Bit monotonous, I brlieve it 8 years I've been saying this now. Adebayor will be sold this summer because of the vast increase in is wages now due. I would keep Soldaldo and bring in another forward as cover/rotation. Possibly Remy who would also give us another goalscoring option wide.Think (hope like hell) both Soldaldo & Lamela will will be great players next year. Very few foreign players hit the ground running and settle immeadiately.

I'm afraid I don't know enough about our youth payers to know who would be able to make the step up next year but I believe Bentalab & Pritchard, who I've heard good thing about, should be first team players.

I believe we have got plenty of money to spend on tranfers but don't think we'll need that much, as long as Dim is gone and a bloody good manager installed.

If you've got to the end of this without thinking I am a few sandwiches short of a picnic you've done well. As I say these are only my opinions and will accept any criticism (begrudgingly) but this is what makes the game so great as it is a game of opinions (cliche or what?)
 

TheAmerican

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LB: Nicola Murru

He is probably going to get a spot in the world cup squad for Italy. He's had an incredible year, and at 19, is one of the best lbs in Serie A.
 

Max123

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Manager- LVG

Goalkeepers- Fraser Forster, Jordan Archer, Brad Friedel

RB- Walker, Richards(also can play cb) CB- Virgil Van Dijk, Chiriches, Kaboul, Milos velijkovic
LB- Ricardo Rodriguez, Fryers

Midfielders-

CM- Dembele, Sandro, Kovacic, Capoue, Eriksen RM- Lamela, Townsend LM- Chadli, Gerard Deulofeu(loan)

Strikers- Adebayor, Lukaku, Michy Batshuayi

Team-
Forster


Walker Van Dijk Chiriches Rodriguez

Sandro kovacic

Lamela Eriksen Deulofeu

Lukaku


This probably isn't at all realistic but it is brimming with potential. If we get good money for Lloris, Verts and Paulinho it could be possible.:oops:

 

SandroClegane

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Manager- LVG

Goalkeepers- Fraser Forster, Jordan Archer, Brad Friedel

RB- Walker, Richards(also can play cb) CB- Virgil Van Dijk, Chiriches, Kaboul, Milos velijkovic
LB- Ricardo Rodriguez, Fryers

Midfielders-

CM- Dembele, Sandro, Kovacic, Capoue, Eriksen RM- Lamela, Townsend LM- Chadli, Gerard Deulofeu(loan)

Strikers- Adebayor, Lukaku, Michy Batshuayi

Team-
Forster


Walker Van Dijk Chiriches Rodriguez

Sandro kovacic

Lamela Eriksen Deulofeu

Lukaku


This probably isn't at all realistic but it is brimming with potential. If we get good money for Lloris, Verts and Paulinho it could be possible.:oops:
5 more guys with no premier league experience and 8 new players in total. So, more turnover than last year. :rolleyes:
 

beats1

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5 more guys with no premier league experience and 8 new players in total. So, more turnover than last year. :rolleyes:
Not to mention getting rid of Soldado and going for 3 big strikers that have somewhat similar styles
 

jezz

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Realistic squad for next season.
Hmmm how about the squad we have already?
 

Max123

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They are all players within our reach but I guess there is far too many( I knew that point was going to get brought up.:eek:
 

SandroClegane

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Realistically we only need a LB, CB, ST, and GK. And ST isn't really necessary unless we sell Ade/Soldado which I doubt we would
 

beats1

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Realistically we only need a LB, CB, ST, and GK. And ST isn't really necessary unless we sell Ade/Soldado which I doubt we would
Ade may go imo but thats because there was supposed talk of a pay rise after two years
 
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