Yet Another Ex-Manager Watch: Cristian Stellini

[13VanDerBale13]

Very stubborn with his starting XI.

Why on earth do we have to see Skipp & PEH, every - single - game.
Players like Sarr & Danjuma should have started a long time ago.

No doubt next week the only change we’ll see is in CB
This club is heading towards new levels of toxicity, as every game passes by.

 

[bubble07]

Think if lenglet is out he has no choice but to go 4-3-3

 

[Monkey boy]

Very stubborn with his starting XI.

Why on earth do we have to see Skipp & PEH, every - single - game.
Players like Sarr & Danjuma should have started a long time ago.

No doubt next week the only change we’ll see is in CB
This club is heading towards new levels of toxicity, as every game passes by.

most people called that the moment he was left in charge. We were always going to get these rubbish performances coinciding with losing the majority of games. It’s a complete and utter farce to be left in this situation AGAIN.

 

[HedgieSpur]

As crazy as this sounds, one thing that occurred to me while I was the game was that maybe Conte has only left in name only.

In other words, I wonder Conte and Levy have made a deal that sees Conte “step back” from being the manager just on the face of it, but in reality, he is still managing us remotely.

As I said, sounds crazy and I’m not sure I fully even believe it myself, but may explain why the rest of the staff were left in situ.

 

[Japhet]

I don't think he should have stayed. He is ingrained in Contes style of play, has a chance to assert his own thoughts, but it transpires that his thoughts are Contes in terms of tactics and style.

However, the players continuing to shell when in front is not on him. The players show no character or resilience at all. Rather than looking to kill the game off, they retreat to try and protect that they have. That is not an instruction from the manager. Dier is a liability, Lloris is a liability and Hojbjerg is not a leader on the pitch. The fact we qre trying to tie Dier up for 3 more years just makes no sense.

What is on the manager is not recognising that our midfield is limited and gets outnumbered every week. Why Sarr does not get a game alongside the other 2 I do not know. A midfielder sitting in front of a defence allows the other 2 to press a bit higher rather than retreat to the penalty area. It allows the 2 midfielders to feel that they can go wider to support the full backs.

This team has no character but I think it is partly down to the fact that the players don't have the ability to play in the formation that they are being fudged into. A tweak to a 4-3-3 would be interesting to see or even a genuine 3-5-2

We know what the team looks like for the next game and the formation. Nothing will change. This isn't just on Stellini. Levy for some reason thought this was a good idea probably to save money on sacking him rather than what is best for the football club.

As I said earlier, I think Stellini is just showing Conte that he's a true believer and will end up wherever Conte goes when he inevitably gets sacked from THFC. He's showing 100% faith in Conte and his beliefs and doesn't give a flying fuck what happens here because he's the proverbial dead man walking. Should be relieved of his duties before he damages us further imo. I think Mason would at least change things up a bit in the short term.

 

[Japhet]

I don't think he should have stayed. He is ingrained in Contes style of play, has a chance to assert his own thoughts, but it transpires that his thoughts are Contes in terms of tactics and style.

However, the players continuing to shell when in front is not on him. The players show no character or resilience at all. Rather than looking to kill the game off, they retreat to try and protect that they have. That is not an instruction from the manager. Dier is a liability, Lloris is a liability and Hojbjerg is not a leader on the pitch. The fact we qre trying to tie Dier up for 3 more years just makes no sense.

What is on the manager is not recognising that our midfield is limited and gets outnumbered every week. Why Sarr does not get a game alongside the other 2 I do not know. A midfielder sitting in front of a defence allows the other 2 to press a bit higher rather than retreat to the penalty area. It allows the 2 midfielders to feel that they can go wider to support the full backs.

This team has no character but I think it is partly down to the fact that the players don't have the ability to play in the formation that they are being fudged into. A tweak to a 4-3-3 would be interesting to see or even a genuine 3-5-2

We know what the team looks like for the next game and the formation. Nothing will change. This isn't just on Stellini. Levy for some reason thought this was a good idea probably to save money on sacking him rather than what is best for the football club.

Midfield pivot is more of a problem than the back 3 imo. The back 3 get hemmed in because there aren't passing options to get out and they can't cope with the holes that a 3rd CM would block up. The midfield 2 are always vulnerable when pressed and outnumbered which is usually the case.

 

[cliff jones]

If we do go 433 next week, Stellini will play that really annoying Conte flat 3 where Skipp plays on the right- I think it was in the away game at Bournemouth we first saw this

 

[RuskyM]

He cannot be in charge of the next game. It'd be almost criminally negligent.

 

[Japhet]

He cannot be in charge of the next game. It'd be almost criminally negligent.

Add it to the list.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

I think the system does have a part to play in the problems because every single game we are overrun in midfield. Doesn’t matter how many defenders you play if none of them are good enough the quality of the opposition in this league will find you out.

Even if we played 3 in midfield, there is still a massive lack of quality for us to become competitive. maybe next season with Bissouma, Sarr and Bentancor, we may be better equipped.

 

[parj]

We've had manger after manager plus the likes of Kane repeatedly saying this is not what they are being instructed to do.

It's just somehow become a default setting. That's why I don't believe it matters what formation we are playing right now.

#resetrequired

Whilst I agree with what we are getting told about the system, you have to remember that Jose and Conte are happy to pull the trigger on players that keep making mistakes. Our midfielders take no risks, our attackers rarely take risks, and all the risk is taken on by defenders to try and get the ball up the pitch.

If players knew they could do their job without risk of being benched or criticised then they will take more risks. Our attack is blunt right now, but we have some very good attackers. These same players were superb end of last season when they were taking risks. Something happened over the summer where Conte managed to get a full pre season. We just became more rigid

 

[rossdapep]

We've had manger after manager plus the likes of Kane repeatedly saying this is not what they are being instructed to do.

It's just somehow become a default setting. That's why I don't believe it matters what formation we are playing right now.

#resetrequired

Mindset.

Our 'rest defence' is very particular and we don't press aggressively that means players are naturally dropping back.

Conte and Jose have instilled a mentality that means the players are subconsciously thinking about defensive position even when they have the ball.

Other teams have a mentality built in where they need to get the ball back immediately so subconciously they are already thinking about having the ball again.

I also think our limited patterns mean players run out of ideas fast and when certain channels are shut down they go back.

 

[SUIYHA]

Conte without the passion

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Like most supporters I find it hard to see the reason for Stellini to stay in charge as he is a Conte man and will continue to play the Conte way regardless of it not working. We have 7 games left, get rid of Stellini now and play these last games with freedom and let us supporters enjoy some exciting interesting football and we might even see our players come alive. Regardless how bad we have looked most of this season there are still some good players in that squad and given the chance might just surprise us with some great results. What we do know is that if we stick with this formation and style all we will get is more of the same with more losses than wins.
For God's sake are we the only ones that can see it needs changing? We know Levy know's nothing about football but is everybody so scared of him that they don't tell him? If Kane is leaving he should grow a pair and walk into the office and tell Levy to inform the manager to change it for all our sakes and sanity. Better still tell him he needs to get rid off him. It is getting so frustrating that nobody I mean NOBODY is doing anything about it.

 

[ultimateloner]

But let's quantify what a "full reset" actually entails because on the face of it, it's going to be a new manager, granted but then more or less the same players (including returning misfit loanees) under the same board structure.

This 'reset' that fans desire isn't coming - it's just a new manager who will be eventually shafted one way or another.

The immediate reset required is a return of self-belief and togetherness.
We are so bad now recruitment doesn't really matter.
It's in the player's heads.

 

[Russ1201]

Think if lenglet is out he has no choice but to go 4-3-3

Still doubt it with that vlown managing us.

 

[Dannyspur]

Think if lenglet is out he has no choice but to go 4-3-3

I think if Lenglet is out he will play the same team but with Sanchez in for Lenglet.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

I think the system does have a part to play in the problems because every single game we are overrun in midfield. Doesn’t matter how many defenders you play if none of them are good enough the quality of the opposition in this league will find you out.

I agree, the system is flawed, especially when we play teams with 3 in central midfield… we get pushed so far back that we spend huge chunks of the game defending on our 18 yard line.

We also don’t have the personnel for the current system. We’re a bit shagged now due to injuries but beyond Bissouma (who Conte rarely played) and Bentancur (injured) the others can’t play to the required standard.

I like Pep’s take on a 343 = 361 in defence, 3241 in attack. They in effect have 4 central midfielders, 1 defensive, 1 with offensive passing ability and 2 attacking central midfielders. This is a stark contrast to our complete lack of options both in the team and on the bench… even when everyone is fully fit we’ve next to no creativity.

New GK
Romero New CB New CB
Porro Bissouma New CM Udogie
New ACM Bentancur
Kane

Alternatively drop Bentancur alongside Bissouma and play an ACM behind Kane and Son.

Against lesser opposition as per City, the likes of Kulusevski and Danjuma if he stays can be used as an offensive wing back (albeit not expected to defend much). If City can do it with Mahrez and Grealish, we can certainly do it with Kulusevski and Danjuma.

 

[bubble07]

I think if Lenglet is out he will play the same team but with Sanchez in for Lenglet.

No chance sanchez plays again this season

 

[Dannyspur]

No chance sanchez plays again this season

I think he will play to show the fans that they aren’t in charge.