Wilfried Zaha

[nedley]

I know where he is coming from. But! If! We are claiming to go big. I don’t see 60m for a player like him, or similar expensive. And his wages is what we are paying, and less than HK. Time will tell

Neither would I. Levy on the other hand...

 

[ghjk_91]

I think what's contributing to the frustration is that the ITK was very positive at the start of the window.

People really need to apply salt and not get too carried away one way or the other.

 

[daveduvet]

I think what's contributing to the frustration is that the ITK was very positive at the start of the window.

People really need to apply salt and not get too carried away one way or the other.

kernel of truth in what you say...but there's only so much salt that one can apply before the meal is spoiled.. currently its kippers and custard

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Sounds like it’s 100M over 5 years

 

[St José Dominguez]

If Zaha (65m say) and Grealish (25m say) don't happen it'll be interesting to see who we spend that £90m on or if that idea will disappear because we couldn't find a buyer for Georges-Kévin N'Koudou.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I know where he is coming from. But! If! We are claiming to go big. I don’t see 60m for a player like him, or similar expensive. And his wages is what we are paying, and less than HK. Time will tell

Hmm interesting. So not quite off the table yet then as far as herc is concerned.

Pressure is on Levy to deliver, so hopefully he has to loosen the purse strings more than he'd like to do so, especially with time running out. Especially if wages are comparable to the likes of Son/Dele and less than Kane and Eriksen.

 

[stonebrow]

Hmm interesting. So not quite off the table yet then as far as herc is concerned.

Pressure is on Levy to deliver, so hopefully he has to loosen the purse strings more than he'd like to do so, especially with time running out. Especially if wages are comparable to the likes of Son/Dele and less than Kane and Eriksen.

I’m sure Herc previously posted he expected we’d here in a couple of days so hopefully it won’t drag out, here’s hoping!

 

[wrd]

I know where he is coming from. But! If! We are claiming to go big. I don’t see 60m for a player like him, or similar expensive. And his wages is what we are paying, and less than HK. Time will tell

Put Zaha in a top team and watch him go imo.

 

[Primativ]

Gards mentioning the financials don't stack up for Zaha. Goes on to say that for the money that's being talked about, you would want a Bale.

This is my problem with Levy. He always thinks he knows best and refuses to pay big boy money to improve the Spurs side. Yet our rivals do exactly that.


Levy is failing to step up with the real money. He always thinks no player is worth the fee, always too expensive etc etc It is what it is nowadays in football, you have to pay big money to get players to improve the side and squad. I thought Levy was finally going to back Poch, and I thought this is what it meant. That he would properly back Poch and go against his usual penny pinching ways and pay up for some proper players for once, but it seems a leopard can't change his spots.

No doubt we won't be able to get Martial either as he will be deemed too expensive. So we'll sign another sissoko type for 30 million who will flop.

 

[Primativ]

I know where he is coming from. But! If! We are claiming to go big. I don’t see 60m for a player like him, or similar expensive. And his wages is what we are paying, and less than HK. Time will tell

Exactly. We are claiming to go big but we aren't, surprise surprise. Levy just can't quite bring himself to splash the proper cash, we will play it safe and take a punt on a lesser player who costs less but will probably not work out.

To dare is too dear.

 

[spursdon1]

This is my problem with Levy. He always thinks he knows best and refuses to pay big boy money to improve the Spurs side. Yet our rivals do exactly that.


Levy is failing to step up with the real money. He always thinks no player is worth the fee, always too expensive etc etc It is what it is nowadays in football, you have to pay big money to get players to improve the side and squad. I thought Levy was finally going to back Poch, and I thought this is what it meant. That he would properly back Poch and go against his usual penny pinching ways and pay up for some proper players for once, but it seems a leopard can't change his spots.

No doubt we won't be able to get Martial either as he will be deemed too expensive. So we'll sign another sissoko type for 30 million who will flop.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Exactly. We are claiming to go big but we aren't, surprise surprise. Levy just can't quite bring himself to splash the proper cash, we will play it safe and take a punt on a lesser player who costs less but will probably not work out.

To dare is too dear.

If that were a proper explanation of how things work under a Levy, the team would be getting worse each year.

Our best successes have come from buying and investing in “lesser” players, many of whom work out spectacularly well. I’d love us to buy a big star or two, it’s more exciting than waiting for players to develop, but the fact that we quite often finish above the teams who do regularly spend big suggests it’s no more certain to bring success than nurturing less established players, if you have the courage to do it properly.

As for being brave, surely buying established stars is the less brave option isn’t it, even if it’s what most of us would seem to prefer?

 

[Lighty64]

So either
1) Gards is hearing false info
2) Zaha has chosen Chelsea
3) We never actually agreed a fee for Zaha

and it's obvious what the doubters/bed wetters will think

 

[Primativ]

If that were a proper explanation of how things work under a Levy, the team would be getting worse each year.

Our best successes have come from buying and investing in “lesser” players, many of whom work out spectacularly well. I’d love us to buy a big star or two, it’s more exciting than waiting for players to develop, but the fact that we quite often finish above the teams who do regularly spend big suggests it’s no more certain to bring success than nurturing less established players, if you have the courage to do it properly.

As for being brave, surely buying established stars is the less brave option isn’t it, even if it’s what most of us would seem to prefer?

Spurs are now at a level where only very good players can improve the team and squad. Yet that is what we must do, improve, because we aren't the best side in the country.

We have got to where we have through investing in lesser players yes, but football is also a combination of factors that leads to Spurs being where they are now, and a huge part of that is Poch and of course, Kane coming through when he did. Without striking it lucky with Kane and his incredible goal haul, we wouldn't be where we are. So whilst our transfer strategy has worked to an extent to get us to where we are, it isn't the only reason for being where we are and it isn't necessarily the best strategy going forward.

Now, unfortunately we still haven't won any trophies, and I think a big part of that is a failure to really strengthen this side with a bit more genuine quality. My other concern and it should be yours too, is players like Eriksen and Kane and Alli won't wait around for lesser players to develop for this side to win stuff.

I'm sure if you asked Kane and Eriksen, would they want us to sign Martial or a Zaha or a Pulisic, or an N'koudou, the answers would be obvious. Spurs have a golden opportunity whilst we have Kane and the side we do have now, to really achieve something, we don't have anymore time to wait around for more players to develop. By the time that happens, Kane will be 27 and if we still haven't won anything he will be gone and so will our other star players.

I'm not advocating we should bankrupt the club, or do a City, but I think we are too much on the cautious side as opposed to going for it for once, and our transfer windows always leave us and the squad short.

 

[Lighty64]

So, he wants to move to us, we agree a fee, we offer the best signing on fee, the best wages, Champions League football, the chance to work with one of the best young coaches in the world..

..and he's still going to Chelsea. What is the point!?

I was deadly serious about protesting a few days ago. It's not entitlement, it's about keeping your eye on the ball in footballing terms, rather than running a some kind of sports related theme park, which is now clearly a very serious danger.

..Perhaps Wednesday is when Pochettino comes back to the UK to hand his notice in, and to be honest I wouldn't blame him.

What a lot of people seem to forget is that both Janssen and Nkoudou were on loan, so weren't even part of the first team squad at the end of last season. So, in Levy's mind, if we want to buy 3 players before the deadline, we'll need to shift FIVE players out FIRST!

This summer, the football team/squad clearly hasn't been a priority. The club voted for the early close of the window and therefore should've been more prepared for it.

Make me eat my words, Daniel.. Aurier, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Llorente, Janssen out.. Zaha, Kovacic, Grealish in.. Toby stays. We then know you mean business.

if it is true that he isn't coming to us (which I'm not gutted about, look back at my post in here) then he might of chose Chelsea as it saves him moving home, as he only lives around 30 mins from Cobham, or he might of decided to go the CL route with Dortmund.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Spurs are now at a level where only very good players can improve the team and squad. Yet that is what we must do, improve, because we aren't the best side in the country.

We have got to where we have through investing in lesser players yes, but football is also a combination of factors that leads to Spurs being where they are now, and a huge part of that is Poch and of course, Kane coming through when he did. Without striking it lucky with Kane and his incredible goal haul, we wouldn't be where we are. So whilst our transfer strategy has worked to an extent to get us to where we are, it isn't the only reason for being where we are and it isn't necessarily the best strategy going forward.

Now, unfortunately we still haven't won any trophies, and I think a big part of that is a failure to really strengthen this side with a bit more genuine quality. My other concern and it should be yours too, is players like Eriksen and Kane and Alli won't wait around for lesser players to develop for this side to win stuff.

I'm sure if you asked Kane and Eriksen, would they want us to sign Martial or a Zaha or a Pulisic, or an N'koudou, the answers would be obvious. Spurs have a golden opportunity whilst we have Kane and the side we do have now, to really achieve something, we don't have anymore time to wait around for more players to develop. By the time that happens, Kane will be 27 and if we still haven't won anything he will be gone and so will our other star players.

I'm not advocating we should bankrupt the club, or do a City, but I think we are too much on the cautious side as opposed to going for it for once, and our transfer windows always leave us and the squad short.

We’d all like to see players come in who would improve the team. Most windows that does happen, albeit not the spectacular signings we’d love to see. But the World Cup illustrated how many very good players we have compared with most other teams. And that’s a result of Levy’s buying policies as well as the coaching.

I think Levy is too narrowly focussed sometimes, but I dispute that it’s a lack of courage. Possibly it’s exactly the reverse.

But I will still be very surprised if we don’t make a big signing before the deadline.

 

[Lighty64]

If ITK is indeed accurate about us agreeing the fee and offering a better package to Zaha and he goes Chelsea, I'm officially #LevyOut.

why? it will be Zaha choice

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

I see that pant wetting has started. Levy getting slagged off, doesn’t know what he’s doing ect ect. Must be entering the last 10 days of a transfer window.

 

[Lighty64]

It could also be him choosing to fuck us over because of Levy's last attempt to sign him (if its any truth to that rumour).

the last time we tried to sign him he wanted the same wages or better than what Kane was on, for F sake, he hardly ever scores, always diving, and doesn't have to play against teams that park the bus. he should stay at Palace, he wants to be loved, and they love him.

 

[cwhite02]

I see that pant wetting has started. Levy getting slagged off, doesn’t know what he’s doing ect ect. Must be entering the last 10 days of a transfer window.

You can understand tho, where people are starting to get frustrated? Surely we want to do more to help Poch and try to get him a team to work with as soon as possible?