What the pundits & media are saying about us

[Tucker]

I'm thinking 2/3 years after retirement max.

I don’t think it’s necessarily an age thing. Some of the older pundits like Shearer, Wright and Hoddle actually analyse the game, they talk about why things happened and what players did well or badly. Souness, Keane, Redknapp, they’re just waffle merchants, they very rarely talk about anything other than desire or work rate.

It comes across as lazy and cliched.

 

[buckley]

I agree with tucker you can be young and be good or bad or older and be good or bad its the people responsible for separating the chaff from the wheat . I must say among the younger ones I have been impressed with Clinton Morrison and dare I say Joe Cole they seem to be doing their research and have reasonable things to say sometimes original which is a change from the cliche ridden world of football punditry .

 

[SpursSince1980]

Really? I loved Uncle Ray. No, he wasn’t incendiary in his comments, but he always came across as thoughtful and insightful. He would criticize players in more general terms by talking about the football tactics and situational moments, by illustrating what went wrong or right. Without being overly critical in personal terms. He was very much a scholar of the game, which made his comments often very compelling. You would have assumed that he was a great coach, with the way he’d analyze games. But he didn’t do a great amount of coaching. Just a few things, here and there.

Ray and Hansen are two of my all time favorites. And both similar in terms of how they would look at and comment about the game.

@yankeespur - explain the 'WTF'? Seriously. I'm genuinely curious if I wrote something weird, that you disagree with.

 

[yankeespur]

@yankeespur - explain the 'WTF'? Seriously. I'm genuinely curious if I wrote something weird, that you disagree with.

Fat fingers while scrolling. It's removed.

 

[buckley]

When someone one here has an opinion on a pundit guess it is why we are on here to comment on what the pundits have to say and we all make judgements of how knowledgable they are we can call them all sorts of derogatory names when making our opinions known about their input on the football I called someone thick the other day when it comes to football . What I have a problem with is when someone has a go about their character in real life I prefer to make my own judgements . When I was younger in my twenties I was at work and this person said about
another person that they were all kinds of bad person including amongst other things of being a liar a thief a man not to be trusted with your wife and so on I just concluded that this man had an agenda and I was his platform for having a pop .
Well the bloke he was deriding went on to be my best friend for the next 50 years until he died two years ago .
So I much prefer to make my own mind up about people and tend to not listen to what others say about them .
Why would anybody take on board what a person you do not know posts about a pundit you dont know only by their Tv appearance s
As say when it comes to character assassinations you should make your own judgement .

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

It’s called having a sense of humour pal, as much as I hate him for being a gooner, mersons a mans man with a good sense of humour, Rio Ferdinand is a complete tosser, he used to drink in Bromley, out his nut in all the pubs walking round thinking he was a gangster. Now he’s putting on this big act of being the worlds nicest guy, he’s fake, funnily enough around the times when he accidentally forgot to do his drugs test and turned his phone off yo hide from testers

Or maybe he is just maturing with age like most of us do. Me in my 20's to me now in my 50's are worlds apart. TBF I was a ****.

 

[Matthew]

I did the other day, what got me was Jenas where I can’t remember the commentators name, said that he had a very emotional Co-commentator next to him, meaning Jenas, and then when Jenas spoke, you could just tell how choked up he was, proper tear-jerking moment for me.

i was at my brothers watching the game ( don't have bt sport ) and I've never lost it completely like i did that night, just pure, pure joy! he's a gooner as well, made it all a bit more sweet, even he wouldnt mind me saying he cheered a little when it went in!

 

[dontcallme]

Or maybe he is just maturing with age like most of us do. Me in my 20's to me now in my 50's are worlds apart. TBF I was a ****.

Yeah, was

 

[kmk]

 

[walworthyid]

Micah Richards shut down Sol Campbell on live TV during Man City vs Arsenal

Campbell had a nightmare on Sky Sports when speaking about Phil Foden

www.givemesport.com

Other than being an absolute disgrace of a human being, this is one of the things I detest about Campbell. He tries to portray himself as this cultured, football intellectual when the reality is that he is as thick as 2 short planks.

He's not funny, charismatic or interesting in any way. He just comes across as rather boring and quite strange.

 

[wadewill]

Other than being an absolute disgrace of a human being, this is one of the things I detest about Campbell. He tries to portray himself as this cultured, football intellectual when the reality is that he is as thick as 2 short planks.

He's not funny, charismatic or interesting in any way. He just comes across as rather boring and quite strange.

If he wasn’t such a **** id probably be feeling sorry for him now, he is a strange, deluded, sad, sad man. I think he isn’t right up top

 

[buckley]

Merson is such a fool saying " we rely on Son Kane AND now Bale "every club in every division at every level anywhere in the world all clubs rely on their best players . I find it difficult to believe that this idiot is a payed football pundit .

 

[rez9000]

Other than being an absolute disgrace of a human being, this is one of the things I detest about Campbell. He tries to portray himself as this cultured, football intellectual when the reality is that he is as thick as 2 short planks.

He's not funny, charismatic or interesting in any way. He just comes across as rather boring and quite strange.

It's the weirdness, coupled with the narcissism that really strikes one when you watch him. I actually have trouble comprehending where precisely he gets this idea that he's some sort of football messiah - something he's trotted out on more than one occasion. Based on what, Campbell?

I actually think he's borderline sociopathic, or has anti-social personality disorder, as the current definition goes. But when you look at some of the hallmarks, he does exhibit or has exhibited some of them.

The symptoms he's exhibited:

Lack of empathy - he's never even acknowledged, even when questioned directly, the distress he caused Spurs fans when he moved. OK, I admit, it's only football, but no-one's asked him to apologise or express regret, just acknowledge that what he did caused distress. He never has. Arsene Wenger has expressed regret over it and he's the one who signed him! His behaviour after Macclesfield went bust - publicly backing the winding up order. Again, he was owed the wages, that's undeniable, but to be so forward and brazen, to me, demonstrates at the very least a lack of tact and certainly a lack of empathy for the fans who were watching their club disintegrate. Or when he described himself as being 'pretty down' when he found out that the girl he'd been seeing was pregnant. Joy, fear, rage even, would have been understandable. But 'pretty down'? Really?

Impulsive behaviour - walking out of a game while playing for Bumenal; walking out on Notts County, constantly announcing these high-falutin' projects like his clothing brand, Heart & Sol (or whatever it was called) or campaigning to become Mayor of London, which then fall by the wayside.

Narcissism and manipulative behaviour - the narcissism is plain for all to see, but he's repeatedly banged his own drum to try and get what he wants. While was negotiating with Arsenal for his move, he was constantly saying, even in the press, that he was going to sign a new contract with Spurs - isn't that manipulation? According to an Bum fan I know, he tends more than is usual to to film or snap himself for his Insta feed (I admit to not using Instagram, so can't say what a 'usual' amount is).

Now, I'm in no way a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist, but his demeanour is just so strange, it's so off-kilter that I wonder if there's something biological behind it, rather than that he's just a complete tool. Or more accurately, that it's not just that he's a complete tool.

To be fair, a lot of the above can be used to describe other people, so I'm mindful that maybe I'm being horribly biased. I may have also opened myself to accusations of belittling mental health problems, which as a sufferer of them, I really shouldn't do; or that I'm actually discriminating against someone for their mental health problem, if it exists. And that one really shouldn't do if one believes that mental health conditions are a very important issue, which I sincerely do.

It's just, in his particular case, I find myself unable to feel any shame. When it comes to Sulzeer Jeremiah Scumbell I simply can't look beyond the phrase, 'Fuck him'.

 

[buckley]

What I cannot understand is that people still believe that the hate towards him is for leaving on a Bosman and then joining Arsenal .
When the fact is we hate him because he barefaced lied to his teammates / management / fans / media /for 18 months when he touted the line that in that final year he would sign a new contract . Even he believes it is because he joined Arsenal that we hate him . I know that did not help but bare faced lying for all that time was and still is unforgivable . Detestable human being and anybody trusting him is a fool .
If anybody I new personally lied to me for 18 months I would not forgive them or trust them ever again .
But in football terms he barefaced lied to the whole football world exempting the Arsenal people who I believe David Dein has said " the deal was wrapped up for over a year " I was told that by a sports journalist in my family .
I find it hard ti find words bad enough to describe this scrote of a man .
If he had said when asked about signing a new contract " I am not signing I am leaving on a Bosman to join Arsenal " I would have and I believe spurs supporters would have begrudgingly accepted it . But knowing would have allowed to try to sign one of the two centre halves that moved that transfer window Southgate or Eihogu buy as we all thought he was signing we were left in the lurch .
I say all this for the information for younger fans who may not understand the hate .

 

[pook]

To be fair, I hate him for leaving on a Bosman and then joining Arsenal.

That other stuff just makes me feel better about it.

 

[gavspur]

My dad took me to the old training ground one pre-season, all the guys who came out in their cars stopped and signed autographs for a bunch of us kids there. Then Sol came out, high speed, not even a glimmer of acknowledgment, and nearly ran us all over. So I have never liked him since then. Strange guy, obv has issues.

 

[Shadydan]

We obsess far too much over someone as irrelevant as this guy tbh.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

To be fair, I hate him for leaving on a Bosman and then joining Arsenal.

That other stuff just makes me feel better about it.

He was my first Hate

 

[rez9000]

We obsess far too much over someone as irrelevant as this guy tbh.

Every comment on this board, and every other internet board*, is obsessing too much over something!

*Apart from www.apathy.org

 

[TheBlueRooster]

S C left us, signed for Arsenal, hated.
Pat Jennings, left us signed for Arsenal, loved.

It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it.