What the pundits & media are saying about us

[rossdapep]

I think people need to remember that Keane is not someone who is easy to please and sets high expectations and standards.

If we had have won 3-0, he'd have Said something like "Very good now they need to keep it up and not lose to West Ham" or something like that.

He is very binary in his punditry.

Good or very bad.

He isnt invited to praise little details or point out analytical aspects, he is there to go in two footed on those who are not up to Standard.

And to be fair to him, youd want him playing for us because he would be telling the team that a draw was not suffice and we need to win more.

 

[rossdapep]

Was very obvious to me yesterday that several instances of sloppy passing further up the pitch led to us being under loads of pressure at the back. I'm confident that improves when we have a better choice of players at our disposal. On several occasions Utd. didn't have to win the ball, we just gave it straight to them.

Yeah the turnovers when Porro was higher and United had space were the problem. And we improved on that in the second half and walah....Porro was far less exposed.

 

[leffe186]

I don’t often hang around for the analysis on MOTD etc but I thought the post-match work by the researchers Ian Wright and Fara Williams on MOTD 2 was superb. Identified three or four key characteristics, highlighted them perfectly in clips and debate and did it all really concisely. Really impressive tbh.

 

[BAE]

16 Conclusions on Manchester United 2-2 Tottenham: Bentancur, Hojlund to Rashford, Werner, Ten Hag

Tottenham had style and substance despite a second-string attack, while Manchester United had a fair bit of the latter but none of the former, again. Erik ten Hag is an interim manager.

www.football365.com

Decent read. Particularly liked this bit:

“He can play the pass,” scoffed Erik ten Hag ahead of kick-off when asked what Christian Eriksen brings to his United team, responding as though the reporter had never seen the Denmark international play football.

Eriksen completed 17 passes. Of the starters, only Rasmus Hojlund completed fewer with 14. Which means that one of the foremost creators in Premier League history, the guy who’s twelfth on the list of all-time assist-makers on 75, was essentially a midfield body, a disrupter if you will, a nuisance to get in the face of compatriot Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, whom we don’t think we’re being churlish in suggesting would barely be fit to lace peak Eriksen’s boots, and completed 88 passes.

Manchester United’s 31-year-old midfield destroyer made one tackle, one clearance, no blocks and no interceptions. He was almost entirely pointless.

 

[rossdapep]

Decent read. Particularly liked this bit:

“He can play the pass,” scoffed Erik ten Hag ahead of kick-off when asked what Christian Eriksen brings to his United team, responding as though the reporter had never seen the Denmark international play football.

Eriksen completed 17 passes. Of the starters, only Rasmus Hojlund completed fewer with 14. Which means that one of the foremost creators in Premier League history, the guy who’s twelfth on the list of all-time assist-makers on 75, was essentially a midfield body, a disrupter if you will, a nuisance to get in the face of compatriot Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, whom we don’t think we’re being churlish in suggesting would barely be fit to lace peak Eriksen’s boots, and completed 88 passes.

Manchester United’s 31-year-old midfield destroyer made one tackle, one clearance, no blocks and no interceptions. He was almost entirely pointless.

I think thats sad for Eriksen in truth.

But it absolutely highlights how much he has been utterly wasted under Ten Hag.

Ange would have given Eriksen licence to roam like Maddison and have the heavy workers behind him.

Ten Hag seems to think he can squeeze both Eriksen and Fernandes in and they wont be lightweight

 

[stevespurs]

Both Eriksen and Fernandez were over-run by Bents, Skipp, PEH plus Porro and Udogie.

17 passes from Eriksen, maybe Bruno was similar, I hardly remember him getting a touch.

Ange’s FB’s make it so difficult for other midfield to get on the front foot. The only times were when we misplace passes, when we were attacking, and Eriksen played an early long ball over the top.

I’m intrigued to see how Pep deals with it in the cup.

 

[Nayim60yards]

I won't give the the clicks to check but I read on a messageboard that the Daily Mail gave Udogie 4 out of 10 for his performance against Man United and gave Garnacho a 6. Can someone please explain what qualities the winger was able to show to warrant such a rating from deep inside Destiny's pocket?

 

[wakefieldyid]

I won't give the the clicks to check but I read on a messageboard that the Daily Mail gave Udogie 4 out of 10 for his performance against Man United and gave Garnacho a 6. Can someone please explain what qualities the winger was able to show to warrant such a rating from deep inside Destiny's pocket?

The Daily Mail probably watched some highlights on Youtube, which included Destiny's bizarre attempted own-goal, and decided that this was representative of his play all afternoon.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Actually thought Bruno was even more anonymous than Eriksen.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Actually thought Bruno was even more anonymous than Eriksen.

He played a couple of nice passes that sprung Rashford and Garncho into space in behind. Eriksen? I don’t know what the point of him was after watching the match twice now.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

I'm fairly sure Charlie Eccleshare is a Gooner, you'd never know it from how he speaks about us. And he is bang on here, Ange refused to change his philosophy because he lost 2 games or sign someone like Jonny Evans. ETH has comprised himself from how he had Ajax playing.

 

[PaulM]

I won't give the the clicks to check but I read on a messageboard that the Daily Mail gave Udogie 4 out of 10 for his performance against Man United and gave Garnacho a 6. Can someone please explain what qualities the winger was able to show to warrant such a rating from deep inside Destiny's pocket?

I know it's a game of opinions and these things are subjective but Udogie's rating there is one of the most stupid ratings I've ever seen. The person rating either didn't watch the game or genuinely doesn't have a clue.

 

[spursyido1]

I know it's a game of opinions and these things are subjective but Udogie's rating there is one of the most stupid ratings I've ever seen. The person rating either didn't watch the game or genuinely doesn't have a clue.

Henry WInter in the Times also managed to give Romero and VdV a 5 each.....

 

[PaulM]

Henry WInter in the Times also managed to give Romero and VdV a 5 each.....

Fuck me. Romero had a ropey first half in fairness but second half, he was excellent. Mad stuff.

 

[jurgen]

If you want to be harsh, they did concede 2 against a shite Utd side that's only outscoring 3 teams in the league so far

 

[Mr Pink]

I think people need to remember that Keane is not someone who is easy to please and sets high expectations and standards.

If we had have won 3-0, he'd have Said something like "Very good now they need to keep it up and not lose to West Ham" or something like that.

He is very binary in his punditry.

Good or very bad.

He isnt invited to praise little details or point out analytical aspects, he is there to go in two footed on those who are not up to Standard.

And to be fair to him, youd want him playing for us because he would be telling the team that a draw was not suffice and we need to win more.

Yeah but he was going on about how there's more pessure playing for United.

Pathetic excuse, there's pressure playing for any of the top PL Clubs these days.

That shit, is trying to distract from the truth that United are dreadful from a collective point of view.

Look, he's within his rights to say we only drew.

But be balanced and call a spade a spade in terms of what United are....shite.

He absolutely didnt and made excuses for them then ranted about us.

Neville sees the bigger picture and correctly pointed out that one team looked vastly superior in terms of coaching to the other....which Keane didnt like.

The context of the performance was the elephant in the room.....not the result.

 

[robotsonic]

I won't give the the clicks to check but I read on a messageboard that the Daily Mail gave Udogie 4 out of 10 for his performance against Man United and gave Garnacho a 6. Can someone please explain what qualities the winger was able to show to warrant such a rating from deep inside Destiny's pocket?

It's the Mail, they love a right-winger.

 

[rossdapep]

Fuck me. Romero had a ropey first half in fairness but second half, he was excellent. Mad stuff.

I stopped reading player ratings many moons ago.

Utterly pointless.

Journalists have absolutely no idea what they are looking for in players.

 

[Riandor]

Apologies if already posted:

 

[npearl4spurs]

The only thing Neville has contributed to punditry is his climactic orgasm on air that the Football Ramble has used for games