What our opponents' fans are saying

[Lighty64]

Lamella has never gone in to hurt anyone, he isn't a dirty or violent player neither does he go round committing professional fouls any more than anyone else but what he does do is commit himself and if he ever loses the ball he chases back and gets stuck in. Fouls no doubt but never nasty and I think referees recognise that, lets be honest if you never tackle you never foul.
I have to say that the Mancs seem to see in us what a lot of our own fans still don't by the way.

I agree but the way he does it, if he for once was a fraction later, and with diving (Sterling) and over reacting players, and a big crowd baying could work against him

 

[Goodwins]

I personally think lamela's work rate helps us set a high tempo in the big games, he shows no fear which I think is key. After his substitution vs arsenal our tempo dropped off massively and they took over(not that Im saying it wasn't a necessary sub as he was close to the mark) Against city at home he was also excellent all over the pitch.

For me I would definitely start him in this game

 

[Shadydan]

I'm not saying he will, I just don't trust Clattenburg as a ref, and Lamela this season has been great in his work rate closing down, even committing tactical fouls, but the way he does it could be costly and its not as if Son would be a bad replacement

Clattenburg reffed our game against City earlier in the season against City and we won 4-1, despite Lamela getting booked in the 60th minute he went onto be one of our key players in that match and got MOTM, let's not leave one of our key players out based on a hypothetical situation.

 

[Lighty64]

@nicdic

I just do not like CLATTENBURG, I don't trust him especially in big matches and feel he is a homer. Refs only get to make a decision on what they see (or in his case) thinks he sees. I hated Riley, I hated Webb, I fucking hate Moss and Clattenburg, and do not want the game ruined from a referee mistake.

I do watch Spurs matches and have seen it on SSN that he has committed the most fouls in the whole PL, and he has been lucky he hasn't seen red away too the goons being 1

 

[danielneeds]

@nicdic

I just do not like CLATTENBURG, I don't trust him especially in big matches and feel he is a homer. Refs only get to make a decision on what they see (or in his case) thinks he sees. I hated Riley, I hated Webb, I fucking hate Moss and Clattenburg, and do not want the game ruined from a referee mistake.

I do watch Spurs matches and have seen it on SSN that he has committed the most fouls in the whole PL, and he has been lucky he hasn't seen red away too the goons being 1

Most of Lamela's fouls are just niggly little pull backs, sometimes he accrues a few to get a card. It's hardly ever violent stuff. That Arsenal match was not the norm.

 

[tommo84]

@nicdic

I just do not like CLATTENBURG, I don't trust him especially in big matches and feel he is a homer. Refs only get to make a decision on what they see (or in his case) thinks he sees. I hated Riley, I hated Webb, I fucking hate Moss and Clattenburg, and do not want the game ruined from a referee mistake.

I do watch Spurs matches and have seen it on SSN that he has committed the most fouls in the whole PL, and he has been lucky he hasn't seen red away too the goons being 1

You may not like him, but Clattenburg has been far and away the best referee in the country for a few years now. He still makes the occasional big decision that seems wrong but he is generally pretty strong in his refereeing. I've seen him give lots of good, but not easy, decisions against home teams in recent memory - including the sending off of Wanyama last week for Southampton vs West Ham.

 

[Borks]

You may not like him, but Clattenburg has been far and away the best referee in the country for a few years now. He still makes the occasional big decision that seems wrong but he is generally pretty strong in his refereeing. I've seen him give lots of good, but not easy, decisions against home teams in recent memory - including the sending off of Wanyama last week for Southampton vs West Ham.

Wanyama isn't a great example, booking at worst imo.

 

[pjspur1961]

Something from Fiorentinas fan site Violanation.com.....

Not sure what to make of this, seems like it's been written by a gooner on the wind-up....serious? or just tongue in cheek?

http://www.violanation.com/special-features/2016/2/9/10948802/tottenham-hotspur-an-invitation-to-pity

Lads, we need to talk about Tottenham.
In just a few days’ time, Fiorentina will be playing Tottenham Hotspur in the Europe League. There’s something of a similarity between the two teams, with both mounting passable title challenges in an overachieving year. Each team comes into the fixture with a real belief that progression is achievable. But we’ve been here before, no?
Last year, Fiorentina played Spurs in the same competition and – despite Tottenham taking an early lead at home – knocked them out with relative ease. It was all a bit embarrassing for the Middlesex side. So this year, instead of the customary trash talking between the two teams, I come to you with a different message. One of pity. Because, as Roy Keane says, Tottenham Hotspur will always let you down.
Put simply, this is Spurs. As much as they might try to hide the fact, Tottenham Hotspur will always retain a fundamental element of Spursiness that is impossible to deny. It’s even become a joke among their supporters, the very definition of a coping mechanism.
The standard Spurs tradition is for the fans to invest all of their hopes and dreams into a player, a manager, or a team before they’re inevitably, cataclysmically let down. You see, there’s nothing more quintessentially Tottenham than glorious failure. Actually, glorious might be a bit strong for a team who’ve won nothing of note for half a century. Half decent failure. Lukewarm disappointment. Tepid, turgid Tottenham, repeating their mediocrity ad infintum. But I digress.
This is a team whose most memorable European performance in recent years (that Inter match at San Siro) was a game they lost.
This is a team who received the largest sum ever paid for a single footballer and spent it on dross, astonishingly claiming they’d sold Elvis and bought the Beatles.
This is a team who allowed Tim Sherwood to actually be the manager. Like, actually in charge of tactics and stuff.
This is a team who even let Mario Gomez score against them.
Those poor, poor supporters.
So in the near future, when they’ve sold Dele Alli to Chelsea, when Mauricio Pochettino is managing Real Madrid, when monthly NFL matches are tearing up the turf of their white elephant stadium, and when Harry Kane suddenly remembers that he’s a Sunday league striker and there’s no money to replace him, Spurs will be left with nothing. Zip. Zilch. The sum total of cartilage in Ledley King’s overrated knees.
And from that vast expanse of nothingness, they’ll forge some new great hope.
From the ashes of every single one of Tottenham’s failures, the phoenix of ambition rises up again and again, only to be shot down in new and interesting ways. There’s nothing they can do about this, the unfortunate Tottenham fans.
I mean, the Fiorentina faithful have seen Batigol, Rui Costa, and Roberto Baggio do incredible things on a football pitch, meanwhile they’ve had to put up with Andy Reid and Grzegorz Rasiak. These Spurs fans are stuck with this perpetually wretched side and who are we to begrudge them a bit of hope?
Sure, it will always go wrong, the fans will embarrass themselves, and they’ll be left drying their eyes with their almost-new ‘Mind the Gap 12/13’ t-shirts, but how can you criticise someone for having a bit of hope? As I’m sure Spurs fans are painfully aware, it’s the hope that kills you.
So we shouldn’t be trash talking Tottenham. We shouldn’t waste our breath. Instead, we should just pity their very existence, comfortable in the knowledge that - should they ever almost amount to anything resembling glory - they’ll reliably and inescapably throw it all away.
Lads, it’s Tottenham

 

[ClintEastwould]

No way an actual fiorentina fan wrote that

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Something from Fiorentinas fan site Violanation.com.....

Not sure what to make of this, seems like it's been written by a gooner on the wind-up....serious? or just tongue in cheek?

http://www.violanation.com/special-features/2016/2/9/10948802/tottenham-hotspur-an-invitation-to-pity

Lads, we need to talk about Tottenham.
In just a few days’ time, Fiorentina will be playing Tottenham Hotspur in the Europe League. There’s something of a similarity between the two teams, with both mounting passable title challenges in an overachieving year. Each team comes into the fixture with a real belief that progression is achievable. But we’ve been here before, no?
Last year, Fiorentina played Spurs in the same competition and – despite Tottenham taking an early lead at home – knocked them out with relative ease. It was all a bit embarrassing for the Middlesex side. So this year, instead of the customary trash talking between the two teams, I come to you with a different message. One of pity. Because, as Roy Keane says, Tottenham Hotspur will always let you down.
Put simply, this is Spurs. As much as they might try to hide the fact, Tottenham Hotspur will always retain a fundamental element of Spursiness that is impossible to deny. It’s even become a joke among their supporters, the very definition of a coping mechanism.
The standard Spurs tradition is for the fans to invest all of their hopes and dreams into a player, a manager, or a team before they’re inevitably, cataclysmically let down. You see, there’s nothing more quintessentially Tottenham than glorious failure. Actually, glorious might be a bit strong for a team who’ve won nothing of note for half a century. Half decent failure. Lukewarm disappointment. Tepid, turgid Tottenham, repeating their mediocrity ad infintum. But I digress.
This is a team whose most memorable European performance in recent years (that Inter match at San Siro) was a game they lost.
This is a team who received the largest sum ever paid for a single footballer and spent it on dross, astonishingly claiming they’d sold Elvis and bought the Beatles.
This is a team who allowed Tim Sherwood to actually be the manager. Like, actually in charge of tactics and stuff.
This is a team who even let Mario Gomez score against them.
Those poor, poor supporters.
So in the near future, when they’ve sold Dele Alli to Chelsea, when Mauricio Pochettino is managing Real Madrid, when monthly NFL matches are tearing up the turf of their white elephant stadium, and when Harry Kane suddenly remembers that he’s a Sunday league striker and there’s no money to replace him, Spurs will be left with nothing. Zip. Zilch. The sum total of cartilage in Ledley King’s overrated knees.
And from that vast expanse of nothingness, they’ll forge some new great hope.
From the ashes of every single one of Tottenham’s failures, the phoenix of ambition rises up again and again, only to be shot down in new and interesting ways. There’s nothing they can do about this, the unfortunate Tottenham fans.
I mean, the Fiorentina faithful have seen Batigol, Rui Costa, and Roberto Baggio do incredible things on a football pitch, meanwhile they’ve had to put up with Andy Reid and Grzegorz Rasiak. These Spurs fans are stuck with this perpetually wretched side and who are we to begrudge them a bit of hope?
Sure, it will always go wrong, the fans will embarrass themselves, and they’ll be left drying their eyes with their almost-new ‘Mind the Gap 12/13’ t-shirts, but how can you criticise someone for having a bit of hope? As I’m sure Spurs fans are painfully aware, it’s the hope that kills you.
So we shouldn’t be trash talking Tottenham. We shouldn’t waste our breath. Instead, we should just pity their very existence, comfortable in the knowledge that - should they ever almost amount to anything resembling glory - they’ll reliably and inescapably throw it all away.
Lads, it’s Tottenham

Obvious Arse/Spam/Chav fan, no passionate Florentinia fan will know that much about Fergie 'lads it's Tottenham' and what that means here or what King meant to us.

 

[Sweech]

Wanyama isn't a great example, booking at worst imo.

When you fly into a sliding challenge and you're nowhere near the ball and it looks like you were just sliding into them for the sake of it, it should be a sending off as violent conduct.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Something from Fiorentinas fan site Violanation.com.....

Not sure what to make of this, seems like it's been written by a gooner on the wind-up....serious? or just tongue in cheek?

http://www.violanation.com/special-features/2016/2/9/10948802/tottenham-hotspur-an-invitation-to-pity

Lads, we need to talk about Tottenham.
In just a few days’ time, Fiorentina will be playing Tottenham Hotspur in the Europe League. There’s something of a similarity between the two teams, with both mounting passable title challenges in an overachieving year. Each team comes into the fixture with a real belief that progression is achievable. But we’ve been here before, no?
Last year, Fiorentina played Spurs in the same competition and – despite Tottenham taking an early lead at home – knocked them out with relative ease. It was all a bit embarrassing for the Middlesex side. So this year, instead of the customary trash talking between the two teams, I come to you with a different message. One of pity. Because, as Roy Keane says, Tottenham Hotspur will always let you down.
Put simply, this is Spurs. As much as they might try to hide the fact, Tottenham Hotspur will always retain a fundamental element of Spursiness that is impossible to deny. It’s even become a joke among their supporters, the very definition of a coping mechanism.
The standard Spurs tradition is for the fans to invest all of their hopes and dreams into a player, a manager, or a team before they’re inevitably, cataclysmically let down. You see, there’s nothing more quintessentially Tottenham than glorious failure. Actually, glorious might be a bit strong for a team who’ve won nothing of note for half a century. Half decent failure. Lukewarm disappointment. Tepid, turgid Tottenham, repeating their mediocrity ad infintum. But I digress.
This is a team whose most memorable European performance in recent years (that Inter match at San Siro) was a game they lost.
This is a team who received the largest sum ever paid for a single footballer and spent it on dross, astonishingly claiming they’d sold Elvis and bought the Beatles.
This is a team who allowed Tim Sherwood to actually be the manager. Like, actually in charge of tactics and stuff.
This is a team who even let Mario Gomez score against them.
Those poor, poor supporters.
So in the near future, when they’ve sold Dele Alli to Chelsea, when Mauricio Pochettino is managing Real Madrid, when monthly NFL matches are tearing up the turf of their white elephant stadium, and when Harry Kane suddenly remembers that he’s a Sunday league striker and there’s no money to replace him, Spurs will be left with nothing. Zip. Zilch. The sum total of cartilage in Ledley King’s overrated knees.
And from that vast expanse of nothingness, they’ll forge some new great hope.
From the ashes of every single one of Tottenham’s failures, the phoenix of ambition rises up again and again, only to be shot down in new and interesting ways. There’s nothing they can do about this, the unfortunate Tottenham fans.
I mean, the Fiorentina faithful have seen Batigol, Rui Costa, and Roberto Baggio do incredible things on a football pitch, meanwhile they’ve had to put up with Andy Reid and Grzegorz Rasiak. These Spurs fans are stuck with this perpetually wretched side and who are we to begrudge them a bit of hope?
Sure, it will always go wrong, the fans will embarrass themselves, and they’ll be left drying their eyes with their almost-new ‘Mind the Gap 12/13’ t-shirts, but how can you criticise someone for having a bit of hope? As I’m sure Spurs fans are painfully aware, it’s the hope that kills you.
So we shouldn’t be trash talking Tottenham. We shouldn’t waste our breath. Instead, we should just pity their very existence, comfortable in the knowledge that - should they ever almost amount to anything resembling glory - they’ll reliably and inescapably throw it all away.
Lads, it’s Tottenham

Article credited to a "Huw Thomas"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...-flags-are-simpletons-and-casual-racists.html

Same one possibly?

 

[allpaths]

No way an actual fiorentina fan wrote that

it was a parody, just some friendly banter

 

[Spurger King]

Something from Fiorentinas fan site Violanation.com.....

Not sure what to make of this, seems like it's been written by a gooner on the wind-up....serious? or just tongue in cheek?

http://www.violanation.com/special-features/2016/2/9/10948802/tottenham-hotspur-an-invitation-to-pity

Lads, we need to talk about Tottenham.
In just a few days’ time, Fiorentina will be playing Tottenham Hotspur in the Europe League. There’s something of a similarity between the two teams, with both mounting passable title challenges in an overachieving year. Each team comes into the fixture with a real belief that progression is achievable. But we’ve been here before, no?
Last year, Fiorentina played Spurs in the same competition and – despite Tottenham taking an early lead at home – knocked them out with relative ease. It was all a bit embarrassing for the Middlesex side. So this year, instead of the customary trash talking between the two teams, I come to you with a different message. One of pity. Because, as Roy Keane says, Tottenham Hotspur will always let you down.
Put simply, this is Spurs. As much as they might try to hide the fact, Tottenham Hotspur will always retain a fundamental element of Spursiness that is impossible to deny. It’s even become a joke among their supporters, the very definition of a coping mechanism.
The standard Spurs tradition is for the fans to invest all of their hopes and dreams into a player, a manager, or a team before they’re inevitably, cataclysmically let down. You see, there’s nothing more quintessentially Tottenham than glorious failure. Actually, glorious might be a bit strong for a team who’ve won nothing of note for half a century. Half decent failure. Lukewarm disappointment. Tepid, turgid Tottenham, repeating their mediocrity ad infintum. But I digress.
This is a team whose most memorable European performance in recent years (that Inter match at San Siro) was a game they lost.
This is a team who received the largest sum ever paid for a single footballer and spent it on dross, astonishingly claiming they’d sold Elvis and bought the Beatles.
This is a team who allowed Tim Sherwood to actually be the manager. Like, actually in charge of tactics and stuff.
This is a team who even let Mario Gomez score against them.
Those poor, poor supporters.
So in the near future, when they’ve sold Dele Alli to Chelsea, when Mauricio Pochettino is managing Real Madrid, when monthly NFL matches are tearing up the turf of their white elephant stadium, and when Harry Kane suddenly remembers that he’s a Sunday league striker and there’s no money to replace him, Spurs will be left with nothing. Zip. Zilch. The sum total of cartilage in Ledley King’s overrated knees.
And from that vast expanse of nothingness, they’ll forge some new great hope.
From the ashes of every single one of Tottenham’s failures, the phoenix of ambition rises up again and again, only to be shot down in new and interesting ways. There’s nothing they can do about this, the unfortunate Tottenham fans.
I mean, the Fiorentina faithful have seen Batigol, Rui Costa, and Roberto Baggio do incredible things on a football pitch, meanwhile they’ve had to put up with Andy Reid and Grzegorz Rasiak. These Spurs fans are stuck with this perpetually wretched side and who are we to begrudge them a bit of hope?
Sure, it will always go wrong, the fans will embarrass themselves, and they’ll be left drying their eyes with their almost-new ‘Mind the Gap 12/13’ t-shirts, but how can you criticise someone for having a bit of hope? As I’m sure Spurs fans are painfully aware, it’s the hope that kills you.
So we shouldn’t be trash talking Tottenham. We shouldn’t waste our breath. Instead, we should just pity their very existence, comfortable in the knowledge that - should they ever almost amount to anything resembling glory - they’ll reliably and inescapably throw it all away.
Lads, it’s Tottenham

 

[Insomnia]

Article credited to a "Huw Thomas"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...-flags-are-simpletons-and-casual-racists.html

Same one possibly?

 

[eViL]

he shows no fear

Until the ball is at his feet.

 

[Gbspurs]

Obvious Arse/Spam/Chav fan, no passionate Florentinia fan will know that much about Fergie 'lads it's Tottenham' and what that means here or what King meant to us.

The bit about Kane "remembering his is a Sunday League player" too. I would love nothing more than to finish about Arsenal and Chelsea this season and then them have to cheer on Kane as he leads England in the Euros.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

3 people have disagreed with this, I would really like to know what you disagree with @Luka Van der Bale @SlotBadger @charliemouse

I disagree that Lamela should be dropped based on the likelihood of him being sent off, considering he's never yet been sent off for us, and was man of the match in the first game against City. I strongly disagree with it in fact.

 

[Borks]

When you fly into a sliding challenge and you're nowhere near the ball and it looks like you were just sliding into them for the sake of it, it should be a sending off as violent conduct.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one. Having watched the challenge numerous times I don't believe it was reckless nor violent conduct.

Edit: Just watched it again, slightly reckless but he only just misses the ball. I still think it's a harsh red.

 

[fletch82]

Obvious Arse/Spam/Chav fan, no passionate Florentinia fan will know that much about Fergie 'lads it's Tottenham' and what that means here or what King meant to us.

Definitely a Goonie
It has words of more than one syllable so no way a spammer or chavski fan I only know 1 Chelsea fan with intelligence and he said it wasn't him