What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 23/24

[Gb160]

United should have been 2 nil up against us? The first half was pretty even I recall.

Its the football fan staple of counting 1 team's chances, while completely ignoring the other team's.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

I mean they did have two absolute sitters they missed. We had a couple of decent chances too but their misses were so horrendous

Well they talk about the Bruno header like it was certain he was going to score. But he’s only scored 3 with his head in his entire career. About as likely as a Davinson penalty or a Romero screamer…

 

[iddebu52]

It’s exciting but don’t get your hopes up until after we have played Arsenal and Liverpool, those games will be the true test of the current set up.

Don't think it's the case. We're still on the early days of the new gaffer imposing his state of play, win or loose against them.

 

[maglajz]

Well they talk about the Bruno header like it was certain he was going to score. But he’s only scored 3 with his head in his entire career. About as likely as a Davinson penalty or a Romero screamer…

Romero produces screamer pretty much every match, it's just usually an opposition player

 

[djhotspur]

Romero produces screamer pretty much every match, it's just usually an opposition player

Yeah I’m pretty sure he was just Brexit tackling the ball and it went in

 

[rossdapep]

Red Café

No dedicated thread on us, but one on Ange.

• Dropping Dier and changing formation seems to have worked a treat.
• Just seems odd other teams, including perennial losers like Spurs, can bring in a manager and change style of play quickly but we need the new manager 2 years to settle in, build his team and pay inflated fees for average players before we resemble a decent team.
• better than Poch
• Started well but could just be a new manager bounce. Let's wait for his first real test
  • When Manchester United stop being a real test
    • When United are that passive it really isn't a test.
• Brentford-United-Bournemouth-Burnley: still waiting to see them against a good team but early signs are good compared to last year
• Doing well, early days but I’m surprised and impressed so far.
• Think we are seeing the metamorphosis of Sonaldo.
  Doesn't quite have that electric pace anymore but stick him central and he's clinical, whilst still being mobile enough to cause defenders an issue. May even suit us better than Kane would have. (does he think they have a chance to sign Son?)
• What a fun appointment for Spurs, he’s turned them into an entertaining team overnight with virtually no investment and brought some joy in what was otherwise going to be a pretty dim post-Kane era.
  • It’s early days yet, far too soon for any meaningful analysis.
    See Solskjaer’s early days and the Rio Ferdinand infamous quote about signing a contract and letting Ole put whatever numbers he wants on it. It was fun for a short while but soon became disastrous for quite some time.
    It’s four games in.
  • I know a few were converting loans to permanent transfers but Spurs have actually spent over £200m this summer, obviously getting a fair chunk of that back with the Kane sale.
• Early days.
  They seem to be creating chances at ease, look capable of scoring loads and actually want to be playing football.
  No Europe, only play once a week, bodes well for Ange gelling his team. But you know they will have a Spursy moment.
• Fair play to him, terrific start. Could just be a honeymoon period though so let's see what happens.
  Has Glaston crawled out of his cave yet?
• Ange just has them playing all out attack minded football, which is pretty fun and a complete 180 from the Jose/Nuno/Conte years. They create lots of chances but also leave huge gaps and concede a lot to the opponent. It reminds me a little bit of some of Wenger's Arsenal teams in the later years, throwing men forward, creating a lot, but also capable of conceding at any moment. They are running hot in terms of the ball going (or not going) in the net right now with an XG-XGA spread of 8.65-6.5 but a G-GA spread of 11-4.
• He has a long history of improving teams. Every step of his career when he stepped up a level he met the challenge. What he does is create structure and space for his players to grow. There will be bad runs of course but he has already shown he belongs at this level.
• The only 'good' team Spurs have played is United. And as it stands atm, United are not that good.
  But then again, Chelsea have been rubbish, Newcastle poor and Arsenal along with United unconvincing.
• Should have first gone to the championship to prove himself
  • Maybe league two and worked his way up
• And to be honest, the first 40 minutes of the United game, United dominated Spurs and should’ve been two up.
  But he’s playing exciting forward thinking football that will entertain the fans. But it’s hard to judge how good they actually are yet, hardly played any games. Once the new manager bounce settles, they have a bad day and have to react to it, and teams have had a little time to study how they play, then we will see how good they are.
  He’s off to a great start though. As a Spurs fan you couldn’t ask for more. Seems a likeable chap too.
• In due course most half decent teams will have them worked out pretty quickly, they need to enjoy it whilst it lasts.
• I’m absolutely baffled at how they had a free run at Maddison for £40m? I know he’s had his injury problems but he’s always looked quality, even in a poor Leicester side. Far less exciting midfielders have gone for much more money than him this summer.
  • Yeah, they've done very well to get him. I really like him. He's quality. I guess the problem is that some of the other clubs may already have players who play in his position. I wouldn't have minded at all if we went for him instead of Mount, though.
  • Just realised he was cheaper than Fred :lol:
• My favourite Australian
• He's brought in players good under pressure in Maddison and Solomon, identified Richarlison as a weak link which was obvious at Everton, and is playing some good stuff as a result.
• Not surprised at all that he has made a good start. Was standing out as a candidate for this type of job, not just based on his work at Celtic but a background of actually winning stuff. Winning is winning, whether it's Japan or Scotland or wherever, when it becomes a pattern it suggests something because many managers don't get over the line.
  Seems to be able to coach players, maintains a good discipline without getting too matey with them, which is underlined by his straight forward way of communication which is often a strength of Australian leaders. He also had a great eye for a player in Scotland, we'll see how well that transitions to the PL. But you can't really complain about picking up a footballer as talented as Maddison as a start.
• I'm unsurprised at their progress. Not only are thd players happier, allowing them to operate nearer their true potential for years, the loss of Kane has forced the attacking players to finally take on more responsibility rather than shirking it all on his shoulders. It also helps Bissouma is finally back to his Brighton pomp, yet they added Maddison.
• When they were playing like this in preseason people said ‘need to see it in the actual season’. Now they’re scoring goals like this in the league. This coach is legit and Spurs will, annoyingly, be very entertaining to watch this season.
• Great start to the season despite the cup loss. Maddison will probably be the signing of the season, he's fantastic and Southgate needs to find a place for him in the England side.

New manager bounce only exists when a new coach comes in with different energy to the previous one.

For example, Solskjaer went to United and put his arm around players and let them dictate how they were playing after the shackles and bad mood of Jose.

It went stale cause Solskjaer has no substance or identity to his coaching.

Id say we arent just benefitting from a new manager bounce but also fantastic coaching.

And its that coaching thatll see us through bad days.

Its not a new manager bounce, it is an overhaul the club needed

 

[chas vs dave]

United should have been 2 nil up against us? The first half was pretty even I recall.

Both teams had chances and we finished strongly

I'd say utd were better until 30 minutes. The had 3 good chances.

 

[SuperLuka]

They were the better team first half but it wasn't domination and we improved later in the half

 

[bomberH]

Red Café

No dedicated thread on us, but one on Ange.

• Dropping Dier and changing formation seems to have worked a treat.
• Just seems odd other teams, including perennial losers like Spurs, can bring in a manager and change style of play quickly but we need the new manager 2 years to settle in, build his team and pay inflated fees for average players before we resemble a decent team.
• better than Poch
• Started well but could just be a new manager bounce. Let's wait for his first real test
  • When Manchester United stop being a real test
    • When United are that passive it really isn't a test.
• Brentford-United-Bournemouth-Burnley: still waiting to see them against a good team but early signs are good compared to last year
• Doing well, early days but I’m surprised and impressed so far.
• Think we are seeing the metamorphosis of Sonaldo.
  Doesn't quite have that electric pace anymore but stick him central and he's clinical, whilst still being mobile enough to cause defenders an issue. May even suit us better than Kane would have. (does he think they have a chance to sign Son?)
• What a fun appointment for Spurs, he’s turned them into an entertaining team overnight with virtually no investment and brought some joy in what was otherwise going to be a pretty dim post-Kane era.
  • It’s early days yet, far too soon for any meaningful analysis.
    See Solskjaer’s early days and the Rio Ferdinand infamous quote about signing a contract and letting Ole put whatever numbers he wants on it. It was fun for a short while but soon became disastrous for quite some time.
    It’s four games in.
  • I know a few were converting loans to permanent transfers but Spurs have actually spent over £200m this summer, obviously getting a fair chunk of that back with the Kane sale.
• Early days.
  They seem to be creating chances at ease, look capable of scoring loads and actually want to be playing football.
  No Europe, only play once a week, bodes well for Ange gelling his team. But you know they will have a Spursy moment.
• Fair play to him, terrific start. Could just be a honeymoon period though so let's see what happens.
  Has Glaston crawled out of his cave yet?
• Ange just has them playing all out attack minded football, which is pretty fun and a complete 180 from the Jose/Nuno/Conte years. They create lots of chances but also leave huge gaps and concede a lot to the opponent. It reminds me a little bit of some of Wenger's Arsenal teams in the later years, throwing men forward, creating a lot, but also capable of conceding at any moment. They are running hot in terms of the ball going (or not going) in the net right now with an XG-XGA spread of 8.65-6.5 but a G-GA spread of 11-4.
• He has a long history of improving teams. Every step of his career when he stepped up a level he met the challenge. What he does is create structure and space for his players to grow. There will be bad runs of course but he has already shown he belongs at this level.
• The only 'good' team Spurs have played is United. And as it stands atm, United are not that good.
  But then again, Chelsea have been rubbish, Newcastle poor and Arsenal along with United unconvincing.
• Should have first gone to the championship to prove himself
  • Maybe league two and worked his way up
• And to be honest, the first 40 minutes of the United game, United dominated Spurs and should’ve been two up.
  But he’s playing exciting forward thinking football that will entertain the fans. But it’s hard to judge how good they actually are yet, hardly played any games. Once the new manager bounce settles, they have a bad day and have to react to it, and teams have had a little time to study how they play, then we will see how good they are.
  He’s off to a great start though. As a Spurs fan you couldn’t ask for more. Seems a likeable chap too.
• In due course most half decent teams will have them worked out pretty quickly, they need to enjoy it whilst it lasts.
• I’m absolutely baffled at how they had a free run at Maddison for £40m? I know he’s had his injury problems but he’s always looked quality, even in a poor Leicester side. Far less exciting midfielders have gone for much more money than him this summer.
  • Yeah, they've done very well to get him. I really like him. He's quality. I guess the problem is that some of the other clubs may already have players who play in his position. I wouldn't have minded at all if we went for him instead of Mount, though.
  • Just realised he was cheaper than Fred :lol:
• My favourite Australian
• He's brought in players good under pressure in Maddison and Solomon, identified Richarlison as a weak link which was obvious at Everton, and is playing some good stuff as a result.
• Not surprised at all that he has made a good start. Was standing out as a candidate for this type of job, not just based on his work at Celtic but a background of actually winning stuff. Winning is winning, whether it's Japan or Scotland or wherever, when it becomes a pattern it suggests something because many managers don't get over the line.
  Seems to be able to coach players, maintains a good discipline without getting too matey with them, which is underlined by his straight forward way of communication which is often a strength of Australian leaders. He also had a great eye for a player in Scotland, we'll see how well that transitions to the PL. But you can't really complain about picking up a footballer as talented as Maddison as a start.
• I'm unsurprised at their progress. Not only are thd players happier, allowing them to operate nearer their true potential for years, the loss of Kane has forced the attacking players to finally take on more responsibility rather than shirking it all on his shoulders. It also helps Bissouma is finally back to his Brighton pomp, yet they added Maddison.
• When they were playing like this in preseason people said ‘need to see it in the actual season’. Now they’re scoring goals like this in the league. This coach is legit and Spurs will, annoyingly, be very entertaining to watch this season.
• Great start to the season despite the cup loss. Maddison will probably be the signing of the season, he's fantastic and Southgate needs to find a place for him in the England side.

Ange should’ve started in league 2 first? Or the championship?

Yep, forget that he’s won 10 out of 12 points in his first 4 games in the actual premier league, he should quit now and go manage Colchester.

There are some proper daft ****s around.

 

[Marty]

Ange should’ve started in league 2 first? Or the championship?

Yep, forget that he’s won 10 out of 12 points in his first 4 games in the actual premier league, he should quit now and go manage Colchester.

There are some proper daft ****s around.

I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume they're taking the mickey out of someone who was downplaying Ange when we hired him.

 

[bomberH]

I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume they're taking the mickey out of someone who was downplaying Ange when we hired him.

I’m not. He’s a ****.

 

[absolute bobbins]

You don’t get a new manager bounce if they join before pre season.

 

[Gbspurs]

Red Café

• May even suit us better than Kane would have. (does he think they have a chance to sign Son?)

This is a theme amongst Utd fans. They are so used to the old days where they used to sign the best players in the league every season that they assume the same is still true, despite the fact they don't have that pulling power anymore.

 

[wlhatwhl]

This is a theme amongst Utd fans. They are so used to the old days where they used to sign the best players in the league every season that they assume the same is still true, despite the fact they don't have that pulling power anymore.

My barber is a Man Utd fan. The last time I had my hair cut, he was certain that Kane was going to United and he was wondering if they should take Son as well.

I'm getting my hair cut this week so it'll be interesting to see what he has to say now. COYS!

 

[HNIM]

My barber is a Man Utd fan. The last time I had my hair cut, he was certain that Kane was going to United and he was wondering if they should take Son as well.

I'm getting my hair cut this week so it'll be interesting to see what he has to say now. COYS!

Tell him Kane wanted to go to a big club.

Then find a new barber.

 

[wadewill]

I'd say utd were better until 30 minutes. The had 3 good chances.

2. Rashfords 2nd one would’ve been offside IIRC

 

[maltahotspur]

It’s exciting but don’t get your hopes up until after we have played Arsenal and Liverpool, those games will be the true test of the current set up.

Oh don't worry "MATE".

We will soon be on the road to the Glory, Glory Nights/Days.

Have faith. I have to quote the famous phrase by the legend Danny Blanchflower:
“The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It is about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom.”

 

[Locotoro]

They're just jealous because he was world class and they didn't feel we deserved him.

They are jealous because he's gone and we're still good

 

[maltahotspur]

They are jealous because he's gone and we're still good

To be fair, even many of our fans thought that without him and his goals, we will struggle!

 

[spurs mental]

BlueMoon

They'll get top 4 under this manager Maddison the one that got away a top player and he looks like he has stepped up

Ange has their entire fanbase by the balls already

I really don’t think you can blame Kane for how bad they were under Conte, it’s clear Postecoglu is the exact opposite and it’s his system that’s changed their fortune. it is hilariously Spurs that they might just have found a manager worthy of Kane’s ambitions just as he’s left.
Also shows how Levy’s penny pinching refusal to sack Conte wasted some prime years of excellent players like Kane and Son.

I like their manager,which is a shame as i want nothing good for the ****s

Spurs are looking good tbh. They're playing some good stuff but also the team spirit is high. He's got them working harder. If like to see what they're like without maddison though.
I'm sure levy will somehow throw a spanner in the works and I hope he does because he doesn't deserve the success

Always thought Son was better than Kane