What do we need our strikers to do? (Not as simple as it sounds)

[WhiteStripe]

Look, I am fed up with the over complicated nonsense on here. We need a striker who will first and foremost score goals based on clever movement and clinical finishing. Thhere are 100 other traits we want, but breaking it down to its simplest form, we need RVN MkII. He's the basis of what we need.

 

[Azrael]

Look, I am fed up with the over complicated nonsense on here. We need a striker who will first and foremost score goals based on clever movement and clinical finishing. Thhere are 100 other traits we want, but breaking it down to its simplest form, we need RVN MkII. He's the basis of what we need.

:clap:

 

[$hoguN]

Look, I am fed up with the over complicated nonsense on here. We need a striker who will first and foremost score goals based on clever movement and clinical finishing. Thhere are 100 other traits we want, but breaking it down to its simplest form, we need RVN MkII. He's the basis of what we need.

Yeah I agree

 

[nailsy]

Look, I am fed up with the over complicated nonsense on here. We need a striker who will first and foremost score goals based on clever movement and clinical finishing. Thhere are 100 other traits we want, but breaking it down to its simplest form, we need RVN MkII. He's the basis of what we need.

I agree WS. It doesn't matter if the striker is a Michael Owen, a RVN, a Terry Henry, or a Drobba type player as long as he can stick the ball in the net when we create chances.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I agree WS. It doesn't matter if the striker is a Michael Owen, a RVN, a Terry Henry, or a Drobba type player as long as he can stick the ball in the net when we create chances.

He has to help in creating chances as well though. I really don't think that we lost many points last season because our strikers couldn't convert chances. I don't think they had that many to try and take because they always contributed to moves breaking down before it got to them.

Whether it was Defoe being offside, Pav miscontrolling the ball or everyone just hoofing it to Crouch, our strikers contributed to our lack of chances generally.

That creative element becomes even more important if we're going to play 1 up front. Goals are obviously the most important thing from a striker, but, for example, I don't think Darren Bent would work in our current setup.

 

[Mr Pink]

He has to help in creating chances as well though. I really don't think that we lost many points last season because our strikers couldn't convert chances. I don't think they had that many to try and take because they always contributed to moves breaking down before it got to them.

Whether it was Defoe being offside, Pav miscontrolling the ball or everyone just hoofing it to Crouch, our strikers contributed to our lack of chances generally.

That creative element becomes even more important if we're going to play 1 up front. Goals are obviously the most important thing from a striker, but, for example, I don't think Darren Bent would work in our current setup.

Exactly this. Well the whole post actually, the dynamic of the side is important and I for one want a guy who will create, score goals and assist our attacking play in general by bringing out the best in those around him.

 

[WhiteStripe]

We need a striker whose movement is up there with the creativity the side has. So, knowing when to run, where to stand, how to finish etc etc etc.

Still, the fundemental point is we need to score the goals.

 

[brasil_spur]

Absolute cobblers.

Winning a share of 50 50's

Keeping the ball in tight spots.

Off the ball movement to create space for others.

Linking play.

Holding it up for support

Creativity.

Forcing errors and Long balls from the opposition defence.

When winning it in the air, actually keeping it or hitting the target


So those things are 0.1 % of a striker?

Those are 0.1% of the attributes that WE need from a striker. WS is spot on, we need goals.

 

[Mr Pink]

We need a striker whose movement is up there with the creativity the side has. So, knowing when to run, where to stand, how to finish etc etc etc.

Still, the fundemental point is we need to score the goals.

Of course mate, but its a team game - obviously :grin:

Put it like this I would rather have a forward who scored 15 goals with the rest of the side scoring for fun to, then a guy who would give you 20-25 with not much coming in other areas of the pitch.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

He has to help in creating chances as well though. I really don't think that we lost many points last season because our strikers couldn't convert chances. I don't think they had that many to try and take because they always contributed to moves breaking down before it got to them.

Whether it was Defoe being offside, Pav miscontrolling the ball or everyone just hoofing it to Crouch, our strikers contributed to our lack of chances generally.

That creative element becomes even more important if we're going to play 1 up front. Goals are obviously the most important thing from a striker, but, for example, I don't think Darren Bent would work in our current setup.

Precisely.

We all know we need better strikers, but more importantly we need strikers who are better footballers. Kanoute wasn't the most prolific, but both Keane and Defoe scored 15/16 goals each when they played with him the same season.

With VDV already on board we have a virtual guaranteed 15-20 goal player if used correctly and played with the right partner.

We need a striker who can interact with the team and contribute more intelligent football and chances for the team overall than we need a last shoulder hit man who will suffer from the same problem as our strikers do now - a lack of ammunition.

 

[Mr Pink]

I'll put it another way, and forgetting transfer fees for a second, would you rather have Adebayor or Bent...because the latter's record pisses all over the formers.

But give me Adebayor all day long please, no contest for me.

 

[tRiKS]

He has to help in creating chances as well though. I really don't think that we lost many points last season because our strikers couldn't convert chances. I don't think they had that many to try and take because they always contributed to moves breaking down before it got to them.

Whether it was Defoe being offside, Pav miscontrolling the ball or everyone just hoofing it to Crouch, our strikers contributed to our lack of chances generally.

That creative element becomes even more important if we're going to play 1 up front. Goals are obviously the most important thing from a striker, but, for example, I don't think Darren Bent would work in our current setup.

exactly right.

 

[brasil_spur]

Of course mate, but its a team game - obviously :grin:

Put it like this I would rather have a forward who scored 15 goals with the rest of the side scoring for fun to, then a guy who would give you 20-25 with not much coming in other areas of the pitch.

But then no-one is talking about us losing goals from VDV, Bale etc... because of us bringing in a striker.

I can't think if a single striker last season that would have negatively impacted the number of goals we scored.

Also we had a striker last season who scored 14 goals but it didn't do enough for us.

 

[Mr Pink]

But then no-one is talking about us losing goals from VDV, Bale etc... because of us bringing in a striker.

I can't think if a single striker last season that would have negatively impacted the number of goals we scored.

Also we had a striker last season who scored 14 goals but it didn't do enough for us.

Yes, but we want a forward who will compliment the likes of VDV and Bale - and will get the best out of the side overall.

 

[WhiteStripe]

Spurs V Man City - Attempts 22 Goals 0
Spurs V Wigan - Attempts 12 Goals 0
Spurs V Sunderland - Attempts 20 Goals 1
Spurs V Man Utd - Attempts 18 Goals 0
Blackpool V Spurs - Attempts 25 Goals 1
Spurs V West ham - Attempts 26 Goals 0
Spurs v Blackpool - Attempts 20 Goals 1

Out of those games - Attempts 143 Goals 3

 

[felmani26]

Precisely.

We all know we need better strikers, but more importantly we need strikers who are better footballers. Kanoute wasn't the most prolific, but both Keane and Defoe scored 15/16 goals each when they played with him the same season.

With VDV already on board we have a virtual guaranteed 15-20 goal player if used correctly and played with the right partner.

We need a striker who can interact with the team and contribute more intelligent football and chances for the team overall, then we need a last shoulder hit man who will suffer from the same problem as our strikers do now - a lack of ammunition.

The main issue for me is that we currently have strikers who have zero footballing intelligence between them, well perhaps excluding Keane but point being is that none of them have the guile to make things happen for themselves and for the best part our moves end with either a pathetic attempt at goal or lost possession.

It's too crude to say we just need a striker to score goals as that's too simplistic - we need, as others have pointed out, strikers who be an effective link between the forward line and midfield, be able to hold up the play in the oppositions third effectively, occupy the whole defence and be able to create a picture in their head of where players will be - team and opposition.

I will always look back at the Kanoute departure with bemusement as he was genuinely a fantastic footballer who's ability to take a long punt up field to him and control it on the chest was incredible. A player of his ilk in our setup would be more than welcome!

 

[StanSpur]

We need a striker whose movement is up there with the creativity the side has. So, knowing when to run, where to stand, how to finish etc etc etc.

Still, the fundemental point is we need to score the goals.

Knows when to walk away, knows when to run....

 

[Mr Pink]

Spurs V Man City - Attempts 22 Goals 0
Spurs V Wigan - Attempts 12 Goals 0
Spurs V Sunderland - Attempts 20 Goals 1
Spurs V Man Utd - Attempts 18 Goals 0
Blackpool V Spurs - Attempts 25 Goals 1
Spurs V West ham - Attempts 26 Goals 0
Spurs v Blackpool - Attempts 20 Goals 1

Out of those games - Attempts 143 Goals 3

You know what, we were pretty crap in that game - I certainly cant remember us really ripping them open at all. We had a suistained period of pressure in the first half but that was it.

 

[WhiteStripe]

Yes, but we want a forward who will compliment the likes of VDV and Bale - and will get the best out of the side overall.

Exactly, so someone who can score the goals that keep them happy that their hard work isn't all in vain would be a good start.

 

[WhiteStripe]

You know what, we were pretty crap in that game - I certainly cant remember us really ripping them open at all. We had a suistained period of pressure in the first half but that was it.

Yup, and we created 20 chances....even more important we take our chances when they come along hey.