Chapel Hill Hotspur
Active Member
- Aug 24, 2011
- 355
- 257
Was looking for a place to post this:
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8162972/joe-paterno-true-legacy
US College Football thread
- Thread starter ealingspur
- Start date
Was looking for a place to post this:
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8162972/joe-paterno-true-legacy
Chapel Hill Hotspur
Active Member
- Aug 24, 2011
- 355
- 257
Also, anyone else getting excited for the new season? Just a couple of months now.
And there's going to be playoffs soon!
And there's going to be playoffs soon!
Coolpudge
Well-Known Member
- Aug 7, 2006
- 882
- 301
I have no idea why they aren't starting the playoffs until 2014
Contract with the BCS goes though 2013 season.
Coolpudge
Well-Known Member
- Aug 7, 2006
- 882
- 301
Oh right, makes sense I guess. Thanks.
LSUY
Well-Known Member
- Jul 12, 2005
- 24,039
- 66,952
There is a smoking crater that was once Happy Valley. I can't see PSU football ever recovering from this. That four year bowl ban is going to scare away so many top recruits. Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin and Michigan State are going to have a field day recruiting in Pennsylvania.
balebalebalebale
Active Member
- Dec 21, 2011
- 166
- 99
Pitt and west virginia are easily going to be the largest beneficiaries of this. Michigan and wisconsin will probably do well but no schools have a strong enough presence in the western part of the state to come in and just dominate recruiting. Penn state was having issues recruiting here anyway in the last 5 to 7 years of paternos tenure and were losing out big time to ohio state. Unfortunately their own scandal prohibits them from really capitalizing on it.
hoodlum
eye have won eye, plus too others
- Apr 4, 2011
- 2,844
- 1,614
Like someone said on twitter, it wasn't the death penalty, but it's damn close to assisted suicide. We're talking a 10-15 year recovery period at minimum, if ever. From a football standpoint, I no longer have my childhood team. My kids won't grow up to be PSU fans either. They'll just chose another program. There's gonna be a lot of that going on.
All due to a few cowardly and perjurious 'leaders'.
All due to a few cowardly and perjurious 'leaders'.
balebalebalebale
Active Member
- Dec 21, 2011
- 166
- 99
I've seen a bit of it all. My best friend has been a penn state fan since he was a kid but I don't think he's going to continue supporting them now. Then I have two friends at work who are penn state alums and say that they are looking forward to a new era in state college and they will support the team even more now that the culture has changed. And then there are the idiots that are like holocaust deniers when it comes to this. Luckily twitter exists so their opinions are open to wide ridicule. As for myself, I despised the arrogance and self righteousness of many psu fans from the second I moved to pa. Now the fact that they are below even pathetic and delusional pitt football is slightly amusing. Plus now I will be able to see my team, nebraska, in person every few years without paying an arm and a leg.
Not to take away from the victims, who should really be the focus of everyones care and attention, but you have got to feel for bill obrien. Left one of the top jobs in pro football for probably the most difficult job in the entire sport now.
hoodlum
eye have won eye, plus too others
- Apr 4, 2011
- 2,844
- 1,614
I'll still follow and support them, but the line has been broken. As I said, my kids will likely just learn to grow and love another school. That's ok. As long as they're happy. As for me, my college football Saturday's have been forever changed. It's out of my hands.
I think O'Brien kinda knew what he was getting into. I'm sure he had hoped for a more favorable ruling, but it's a stepping stone for him either way. If he can navigate the program through these uncharted waters then his profile will be immense for a new, more prestigious position. If not, no one will blame him for failing at such a daunting task. As long as he runs a clean program he's in a no-lose situation.
Football wise, the real winners in this are regional schools that'll capitalize on the very good HS talent in PA and NJ, two traditional heavy PSU recruiting areas. Schools like Syracuse (now in ACC), WVU (B12), Virginia, Pitt, Temple, Maryland, and of course the big boys like tOSU and Michigan. Again, football wise, they've gotta be licking their chops.
I think there'll be a full stadium for this year and at least the first half of next year. After that the crowds could dip into the 80-90,000 range depending on the morale.
As for the pretentious and obnoxious PSU fans, while I don't consider myself one as I'm more pragmatic about the program, I can definitely see that as the case. Very much a cult-like atmosphere up there. Guess that's why the old curmudgeon hung on so long and fucked up. Too set in his old school ways and valued the program more than the morals he liked to yap about. Hopefully this is a lesson, albeit a painful one for fans like me, for the other legacy programs out there. Yours included.
hoodlum
eye have won eye, plus too others
- Apr 4, 2011
- 2,844
- 1,614
Yeah I'm sure that was a big reason. It'll also help the school pay the $73M fine a little easier with have ticket sales. God knows the civil suits are gonna be astronomical, but insurance might be involved in those? Not sure.
EDIT: $60M fine and cover the loss of $13M in revenue from the B10.
balebalebalebale
Active Member
- Dec 21, 2011
- 166
- 99
Penn state is in the middle of nowhere yet on game days it becomes the third largest city in the state. It is a huge school and is the only thing worth seeing in the strange territory between pittsburgh and philly. Had some really fun weekends there too.
However, I think the death penalty wasn't given because that is usually applied to schools that commit a violation while already under sanctions or investigation.
Barmy_in_Palmy
El Presidente In Absentia
- Jun 6, 2005
- 16,256
- 17,221
I wonder if he cares.LSU have just cut Tyrann Mathieu.
staticsmile
Member
- Aug 31, 2012
- 37
- 30
I'm a huge Michigan fan and even I cringed to see them ranked as a preseason top 10 team. They had no business being ranked that high to start the year. Even so, yeah, I agree with your post.
Penn State in complete disarray, Ohio State with a post season ban, and most of the other big named teams laying eggs to start the year certainly doesn't look good for the B1G.
