Match Threads Tottenham vs Arsenal : Match Thread.

[TheChosenOne]

Lifted this from twitter ..
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Behind the goal view of Harry's pen.
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The little scrum with their keeper to get the ball back after he scored was funny.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

last 3 performances have been really poor, we used to create chances for fun & now they are few and far between, hopefully dele is back soon

 

[Vincent30]

Just rewatching the "highlights" of the match, and I'm sorry, but Sanchez's mistake on the first Arsenal goal is as slack and pathetic as anything we've screamed at Trippier about this season. Shocking.

But Trippier plays badly every game. Do you honestly feel happy about our RB situation when you see him starting, it infuriates me that he is our starting RB, he is not good enough and it's so clear to see by so many. I'm pretty bored by it all now.

I can't wait for a defensive unit with actual high quality full backs, i've forgotten what it feels like. That and half of a midfield at best.

The balance of our team is really tough to watch and Eriksen is doing his bast for the last month or so to give 4/10 performances. Just extremely glad we didn't lose this one and need to find some momentum again.

Sissoko has been an absolute gem this season and again today stepped up when so many 'quality players' didn't.

 

[Gb160]

But Trippier plays badly every game. Do you honestly feel happy about our RB situation when you see him starting, it infuriates me that he is our starting RB, he is not good enough and it's so clear to see by so many. I'm pretty bored by it all now.

I can't wait for a defensive unit with actual high quality full backs, i've forgotten what it feels like. That and half of a midfield at best.

The balance of our team is really tough to watch and Eriksen is doing his bast for the last month or so to give 4/10 performances. Just extremely glad we didn't lose this one and need to find some momentum again.

Sissoko has been an absolute gem this season and again today stepped up when so many 'quality players' didn't.

This is exactly the sort of comment that last season was aimed at the fella you're praising at the end of your post mate.

 

[dere911]

We needed a win so I’m disappointed about this team. I don’t understand what has happen to this team since Kane came back

 

[Monkey boy]

We needed a win so I’m disappointed about this team. I don’t understand what has happen to this team since Kane came back

Burnley literally knocked the stuffing out of us.

 

[hughy]

Burnley literally knocked the stuffing out of us.

Knocked the stuffing out of themselves as well by all accounts. Been shit since they played us...

 

[worcestersauce]

Just back from the game and in the end I'll take a draw from that.
Was unsure of the three at the back idea, perhaps Poch thought they'd play Lacazette and Aubamayang but they didn't, pretty clear Arsenal were going to keep it tight at the back and break away when they could and sadly they got the chance and took it. A little impression of Ramsey, he looked completely in control when he was running down on goal and the way he took it round Hugo with such an air of confidence he looked a bit like a man among boys, I know that might not be popular in here but there it is and they will miss him when he's gone.
I thought with the three defenders we were just too light going forward, our midfield and certainly our strikers were outnumbered and in all honesty we didn't really look like scoring which is why, after they swapped Lacazette for Aubamayang confirming they wouldn't play them both together, we sub'd Wanyama bought on Lamela and dropped Eriksen a bit deeper.
It did lead to more movement up front but the Arsenal then started to overrun the midfield and had a short good spell of pressure, this is where Poch played his tactical gem, he went four at the back with Yan playing left back, pushed Eriksen forward again and put Danny Rose into the middle and that was the turning point of the game, I don't doubt it's been said it turned on the penalty but it didn't, it was Danny Rose at DM and it led to the penalty, from that point on they faced a snappy little terrier when they had the ball and a carrier when we had it, he fluffed a few passes and got caught on the ball once but that tactical change made all the difference.
What they then did was bring on Ozil, I believe to exploit a bit of width and that did lead to their penalty, with some good fortune, but by that time we'd brought on Llorente, before he came on we never won an airial challenge and afterwards he never lost one.
Can't help but wonder if we'd have done better sooner if we'd gone four at the back earlier but then I reckon Emery would have made a different change of his own, it really was a bit of a tactical seesaw and was a different game at the end to what it was at the start.
Loving Hugo on the penalties right now, I'm not sure he ever saved one before and now he's saved the last two!

 

[DFF]

Knocked the stuffing out of themselves as well by all accounts. Been shit since they played us...

Palace just beat them 3-1 up there. No excuses for us.

 

[worcestersauce]

Just reading a few posts where there seems to be doubt about our penalty by some people, it happened right in front of me, Kane jumped upwards and was pushed sharply, his direction and speed changed, I've seen players jump up and pretend to be pushed, you can always tell because they fall at one long single speed but Kane didn't he was jerked forward when he was already in the air, it was as nailed on as they get. That said I didn't see the challenge for their penalty as it was up the other end so I'll reserve judgement until Match of the day.

 

[hughy]

Just reading a few posts where there seems to be doubt about our penalty by some people, it happened right in front of me, Kane jumped upwards and was pushed sharply, his direction and speed changed, I've seen players jump up and pretend to be pushed, you can always tell because they fall at one long single speed but Kane didn't he was jerked forward when he was already in the air, it was as nailed on as they get. That said I didn't see the challenge for their penalty as it was up the other end so I'll reserve judgement until Match of the day.

Not seen the Kane pen decision back but wasn't the problem that he was offside as opposed to being debatable whether it was a foul on him?

Either way it went our way so fuck it.

 

[chrissivad]

Just reading a few posts where there seems to be doubt about our penalty by some people, it happened right in front of me, Kane jumped upwards and was pushed sharply, his direction and speed changed, I've seen players jump up and pretend to be pushed, you can always tell because they fall at one long single speed but Kane didn't he was jerked forward when he was already in the air, it was as nailed on as they get. That said I didn't see the challenge for their penalty as it was up the other end so I'll reserve judgement until Match of the day.

I haven't read the thread, but we're they talking about the push, or the offside?

 

[Don_Felipe]

Am happy with the draw, I think - it's just a shame that we weren't better, because Arsenal looked to be there for the taking.

 

[Marty]

We had Rafa VdV in the studio in Norway today. He was adament that Xhaka should've been sent off for his early back-of-the-shin studs up foul on Kane that the ref didn't even give a free kick for.

The man is a real gent. Still loves the club.

 

[fortworthspur]

This is exactly the sort of comment that last season was aimed at the fella you're praising at the end of your post mate.

so you're saying Trips needs more time to settle in?

 

[worcestersauce]

Not seen the Kane pen decision back but wasn't the problem that he was offside as opposed to being debatable whether it was a foul on him?

Either way it went our way so fuck it.

I haven't read the thread, but we're they talking about the push, or the offside?

I know nothing of any offside, that said he wasn't in a scoring position nor was he really anywhere near the ball as it had gone by so I guess even if he was in an offside position, if he was, he still wasn't offside but he was fouled. If a player is in an offside position walking back to get onside and a defender gives him a forearm smash is it not a penalty? I suspect the referee would give it because he wasn't given offside.

By the way that's the first time a referee has given us a penalty in the entire time we've been playing our home league games at Wembley.

 

[chrissivad]

I know nothing of any offside, that said he wasn't in a scoring position nor was he really anywhere near the ball so I guess even if he was in an offside position, if he was, he still wasn't offside but he was fouled. If a player is in an offside position walking back to get onside and a defender gives him a forearm smash is it not a penalty? I suspect the referee would give it because he wasn't given offside.

Yeah, someone posted up the offside rule saying as long as he isn't trying to play the ball, the foul is called.

But Kane and 1 or 2 other players were off at the free kick.

 

[Gb160]

so you're saying Trips needs more time to settle in?

No I'm saying he's a much better player than people are currently making out.
He's just having a shit season...Sissoko had 2 of them, nothing to do with settling in, just a question of form and confidence.

 

[spursgirls]

Just reading a few posts where there seems to be doubt about our penalty by some people, it happened right in front of me, Kane jumped upwards and was pushed sharply, his direction and speed changed, I've seen players jump up and pretend to be pushed, you can always tell because they fall at one long single speed but Kane didn't he was jerked forward when he was already in the air, it was as nailed on as they get. That said I didn't see the challenge for their penalty as it was up the other end so I'll reserve judgement until Match of the day.

It was right in front of me and it was never a penalty!

Not seen the Kane pen decision back but wasn't the problem that he was offside as opposed to being debatable whether it was a foul on him?

Either way it went our way so fuck it.

According to thefa.com (https://bit.ly/2UfXaI5) Kane shouldn’t be considered offside.. “In situations where a player in an offside position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence”

 

[worcestersauce]

Yeah, someone posted up the offside rule saying as long as he isn't trying to play the ball, the foul is called.

But Kane and 1 or 2 other players were off at the free kick.

Then the Arsenal players shouldn't have fouled him then.