This summer is looking grim

[markieboy]

Pochettino took even less time to sort Southampton out. If memory serves me correctly, they were very much suffering in the league, heading for those relegation places? His first match came after spending just 5 days with the squad, he drew with Everton, then got his first win a couple of weeks later, against the current (at the time) PL champions, Man City (3-1). He also, before that season ended, beat Liverpoo 3-1 and Chel$ki 2-1.

I think I've just talked myself into warming to him as a potential candidate for us, beating those big boys is not something we get to enjoy that often. I also like what wikipedia has to say about his managerial style...

"Pochettino favours a very high pressing attacking style of football. He favours usually a 4-2-3-1 formation. While doing so, he emphasizes his teams to build pressure from the back, intimidate and unsettle opponents easily. He has also been hailed by many pundits for his focus on developing local players from the clubs' youth academies."

It's really not that hard to see why, if the rumours are true, Daniel Levy would be interested in acquiring his services.

Southampton have been totally blessed with a group of quality youngsters all coming through their system at the one time...a bit like Uniteds 'Class of 92'.
The manager has done well and has also been relatively successful with his signings...........apart from Osvaldo.
I quite like him as a manager and I wouldn't be that disappointed if we ended up with him.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Southampton have been totally blessed with a group of quality youngsters all coming through their system at the one time...a bit like Uniteds 'Class of 92'.
The manager has done well and has also been relatively successful with his signings...........apart from Osvaldo.
I quite like him as a manager and I wouldn't be that disappointed if we ended up with him.

Thanks for the response, markie . Yep, good post & I agree. My overriding point was that Pochettino went in & pretty much had an instant impact, which I only stated because you pointed out that Rodgers and Martinez worked/settled quickly after they were employed by their current clubs.

Seeing the success they are currently enjoying after showing promise at their previous clubs, I must admit to being rather intrigued as to whether Pochettino could do something similar with our club. I've not really had an opinion about the possibility of him ending up as our manager, I think because of a massive concern that we're simply never going to get the choice of manager right. However, considering every possible appointment is a risk, I think I'm inadvertently warming to the though of Pochettino being courted by Levy.

 

[joelstinton14]

It only took Brendan Rodgers and Martinez a few months to sort both their teams out.........AVB was still nowhere near sorting ours after 18 months.He deserved the sack.
We are not a managers graveyard and we can attract plenty of managers,finding the right one has been our problem.
Real Madrid is DEFINITELY a managers graveyard..............still doesn't stop top managers queueing up to take the job.

I'm not knocking Rodgers, i think he is a great coach. But liverpool finished 7th last year under his management - admittedly it was clear he started to lay the foundations for his team. But It isn't as clear cut as him sorting his team out in a few months. It takes time, and that is now paying off. You can't just dismiss AVB either, he got our record point haul, and again too had started to lay the foundations for our team - i think the players that got brought in, whilst having quality, weren;t the players he wanted, b) there were too many of them to bed in and c) poor luck of the draw with injuries. We had a pretty good start to the season - top and and a very good defensive record which started to crack when things started to settle.

 

[joelstinton14]

As for pochettino , i too am warming to the idea of him as well, i like the way southampton play football, and he does fit that martinez/Rodgers mould of good football and an air of confidence. I like to see that at spurs.

To be honest, i don't know who should be spurs manager, i like the idea of F De Boer, and reading up on tuchel i'm quite impressed with his attitude and philosphies on the game, although before last week i never really heard of him. Whatever the outcome, the summer is looking pretty bright, with any new manager coming in, the weight of this season will disappear, and a new season will start, things will look bright and exciting again. But we need to have patience. Which can be neogitiated by good football and a clear vision even if we do finish 6/7 next year.

 

[XSuicideBunnyX]

Sorry, I know this was suggested by somebody a while ago but they must have been smoking crack. Kaboul has been one of our most consistent performers over the last month or two. I simply do not see why he would be retiring.

Terrible rumour, imo.

If Kaboul gets a really nice summer and comes back at his best and Vertonghen stops throwing a strop , I don't care who our full-backs are - we'll be the first team in history to go through an entire Prem season without conceeding.

 

[markieboy]

I'm not knocking Rodgers, i think he is a great coach. But liverpool finished 7th last year under his management - admittedly it was clear he started to lay the foundations for his team. But It isn't as clear cut as him sorting his team out in a few months. It takes time, and that is now paying off. You can't just dismiss AVB either, he got our record point haul, and again too had started to lay the foundations for our team - i think the players that got brought in, whilst having quality, weren;t the players he wanted, b) there were too many of them to bed in and c) poor luck of the draw with injuries. We had a pretty good start to the season - top and and a very good defensive record which started to crack when things started to settle.

If you check back and look at Liverpools results from December 2012,you will see when it became apparent to a lot of people that Liverpool were really on the move.
As for AVB laying any foundations,go back and watch a few of our games this season under him,we were rubbish,even a manager as poor as Mark Hughes got Stoke City playing better football in a relatively short period of time and look at the job Pulis has done at Palace in a very short period of time.
AVB was here for 18 months and we were getting worse..........lets all just stop making excuses for him.

 

[ultimateloner]

We need to work our players better not buy more.
A quiet summer would be good for us.
Besides players coming off WC take time to get up to speed with the league so it would be doubly hard if they are new recruits.

 

[markieboy]

We need to work our players better not buy more.
A quiet summer would be good for us.
Besides players coming off WC take time to get up to speed with the league so it would be doubly hard if they are new recruits.

I disagree here.
Looking at our results this year we can see that our performances have been poor after Europa league games and when playing teams in the Top 4.
Other than that they have been relatively steady.
We all know we have had plenty of injuries and that the team has been reshuffled many times throughout the season but our performances have stayed pretty much the same regardless of the personnel used.
Other than the first 2 months of Adebayors return to the team when he performed brilliantly and Eriksen's improvement in assists and goals scored..............nothing else has really impacted our results.
We haven't really missed the likes of Sandro,Walker,Dembele,Soldado,Paulinho,Dawson,Townsend,Kaboul,Vertonghen,Rose,Capoue,Lamela,
Bentaleb or anyone else when they have been dropped or injured.
This would suggest that Sherwood is correct in his appraisal of our squad,they are all much of a muchness with no real stand out players that could bring that extra quality to the team.
Thats why I think we need to offload a number of players and bring in at least 4 that are better quality than the ones we currently have.
I think it will be a busy summer regardless of who is in charge.

 

[Syn_13]

We need to work our players better not buy more.
A quiet summer would be good for us.
Besides players coming off WC take time to get up to speed with the league so it would be doubly hard if they are new recruits.

I really think we would benefit from a quiet summer. None of this last minute deals crap and not being linked to every player in existence.

Sell a few, buy a couple to strengthen the defence, and work hard on pre-season. The less attention on us from the media, the better.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

As some have said already - we are verging on having too many Foreign over-21s - so we have to be careful. Trying to find upgrades from in the Premiership is key if we are going to look to offload the likes of Naughton, Rose (who i think will stay in any case), Lennon (who i think will stay in any case), Sigurddson and Dawson (who i think will stay in any case).

That's why i like the idea of Richards (Man City) and Welbeck. Home-grown and verstaile options that are aguably better than what they'd replace.

 

[spursfan77]

As for pochettino , i too am warming to the idea of him as well, i like the way southampton play football, and he does fit that martinez/Rodgers mould of good football and an air of confidence. I like to see that at spurs.

To be honest, i don't know who should be spurs manager, i like the idea of F De Boer, and reading up on tuchel i'm quite impressed with his attitude and philosphies on the game, although before last week i never really heard of him. Whatever the outcome, the summer is looking pretty bright, with any new manager coming in, the weight of this season will disappear, and a new season will start, things will look bright and exciting again. But we need to have patience. Which can be neogitiated by good football and a clear vision even if we do finish 6/7 next year.

I agree with what you say. I don't want it to be pochettino as I don't think he's done enough to be our manager (but neither had Rodgers to be Liverpools....or Moyes to be Man Utds) but I'm sick and tired of changing managers all the time. If we look to be progressing then great, lets give him time.

 

[ultimateloner]

I disagree here.
Looking at our results this year we can see that our performances have been poor after Europa league games and when playing teams in the Top 4.
Other than that they have been relatively steady.
We all know we have had plenty of injuries and that the team has been reshuffled many times throughout the season but our performances have stayed pretty much the same regardless of the personnel used.
Other than the first 2 months of Adebayors return to the team when he performed brilliantly and Eriksen's improvement in assists and goals scored..............nothing else has really impacted our results.
We haven't really missed the likes of Sandro,Walker,Dembele,Soldado,Paulinho,Dawson,Townsend,Kaboul,Vertonghen,Rose,Capoue,Lamela,
Bentaleb or anyone else when they have been dropped or injured.
This would suggest that Sherwood is correct in his appraisal of our squad,they are all much of a muchness with no real stand out players that could bring that extra quality to the team.
Thats why I think we need to offload a number of players and bring in at least 4 that are better quality than the ones we currently have.
I think it will be a busy summer regardless of who is in charge.

I disagree because Sandro/Soldado/Paulinho/Vert/Lamela have all performed subpar/not-performed.
If we get these guys to do what they are suppose to do (in their old leagues) we shouldn't have to buy.
The only area where i think we need genuine reinforcements is in LB and CB.

Either that or we concede that most of the new recruits last year are flops.

 

[Toela65]

Already talk of a £90mil bid being considered by Real Madrid, not to mention Rodgers' recent statement that "Suarez will become the first £100mil player". Why say that if there's no interest in selling him? Also talk that Benzema will be sold to raise some of the funds to go towards a Suarez bid.

I like Benzema as a player, very much doubt we'd be able to get him, so I'd imagine the Goons may be interested, which I'd not like.

Real Madrid aren't interested in Suarez and have never had any concrete interest in him due to his less desirable personality traits shall we say.

With FFP and all the shit Madrid and Barca have got themselves in with the Authorities over dodgy financial shit thats been going on for years, Madrid won't have £100m to spend on anyone, and if by some miracke they were to find it and find a way around FFP their number 1 ST target is Aguero, which it has been since he left Atletico.

I can guarantee you this £90m bid from Real is tabloid bullshit and has zero truth to it. Unless there's a huge change in Spain, Madrid will not be bidding for Suarez this Summer so you can unclutch those straws now.

 

[Ribble]

Real Madrid aren't interested in Suarez and have never had any concrete interest in him due to his less desirable personality traits shall we say.

Got to agree, and the bit in bold is especially important as to why. The Galacticos they splash on have to have huge levels of marketability because that's how RM can actually afford to buy them. You can't rely on someone who has been suspended for biting an opponent in 2 separate leagues as well as the racism thing as well as the WC handball thing to be the kind of money making machine that would be required over a sustained period of time, he doesn't really fit the profile.