The Spurs Youth Thread - 2018/19

[IGSpur]

Imo the majority of youth that are going to be high level you can tell virtually instantly they have something about them. Yes obviously there are a few cases that prove this wrong. But if you have to hum and haw about a player over 30 games like KWP or Onomah or Ccv they probably won’t be good enough. Look at the current England team virtually every player it was obvious straight away apart from maybe Kane and Maguire. It’s just like Parrott you can tell in 45 minutes he’s a player. With KWP you’re desperately straining to see stuff to justify his case. Yrs he’s competent but nothing special. Will have a good career probably in PL but not at a top 6 club.

You keep saying this like you've got some eye noone else had when there
are plenty of cases where it doesnt work like that. You're comparing Parrott playing for u18s and preseason versus KWP playing LB a couple of times in the league. You also never saw KWP and Onomah or probably Edward's as 17yos at u18s level when you would no doubt have said the same thing you're saying about Parrott. The same Onomah Poch called special. What will you say when Parrott likely doesnt make it (though he is clearly good enough to play)? KWP had put in performances for our u18s and u23s that Parrott hasn't come close to, bit still isn't getting a chance and like spurs9 said has done well on his PL starts. How do you expect regular consistent performances without the game time

 

[Anuth]

Our u21 have won their first game in France 2 1 today.
So we lost yesterday and won today

Etete and Stering score

 

[Johnny J]

You keep saying this like you've got some eye noone else had when there
are plenty of cases where it doesnt work like that. You're comparing Parrott playing for u18s and preseason versus KWP playing LB a couple of times in the league. You also never saw KWP and Onomah or probably Edward's as 17yos at u18s level when you would no doubt have said the same thing you're saying about Parrott. The same Onomah Poch called special. What will you say when Parrott likely doesnt make it (though he is clearly good enough to play)? KWP had put in performances for our u18s and u23s that Parrott hasn't come close to, bit still isn't getting a chance and like spurs9 said has done well on his PL starts. How do you expect regular consistent performances without the game time

Surely sometimes we just need to give youngsters a proper run. If they only get a game here and there they're unlikely to make it.

 

[coys200]

KWP hasn't played 30 games, not even close.

Just going by the current England team Maguire, Keane, Pickford, Rice (was absolutley awful in quite a few games in his first season), Lingard, Kane, Henderson, Wilson, Rose and Dier.

Rose was 23 when his Sunderland loan finished and although he did well, he didn't look like he would be top 6 team standard and even at 24, he had a few games under AVB where he looked good but more games (especially under Sherwood) where he looked shit.

Bar Kane Pickford and Maguire none of those players are in the England team I was thinking of. Rice was awful and I still believe is well as a CM. May turn out a decent CB. Keane Wilson I don’t even consider England players. Dier and Henderson wouldn’t have got near an England team 15 years ago. And lingard no comment. The players I’m talking about are Trent Stones Gomez chillwell Sterling Rashford sancho Hudson etc all pretty obvious class from day dot. And now AWB and Greenwood.

 

[coys200]

You keep saying this like you've got some eye noone else had when there
are plenty of cases where it doesnt work like that. You're comparing Parrott playing for u18s and preseason versus KWP playing LB a couple of times in the league. You also never saw KWP and Onomah or probably Edward's as 17yos at u18s level when you would no doubt have said the same thing you're saying about Parrott. The same Onomah Poch called special. What will you say when Parrott likely doesnt make it (though he is clearly good enough to play)? KWP had put in performances for our u18s and u23s that Parrott hasn't come close to, bit still isn't getting a chance and like spurs9 said has done well on his PL starts. How do you expect regular consistent performances without the game time

Edwards granted but will all know that isn’t about ability. My opinion on Onomah has always been pretty consistent. He gave you false hope with great flashes in a game and then disappeared. I’m entitled to my opinion I think Parrott is a player and will be a superstar. I see nothing special in KWP not even in flashes.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

You keep saying this like you've got some eye noone else had when there
are plenty of cases where it doesnt work like that. You're comparing Parrott playing for u18s and preseason versus KWP playing LB a couple of times in the league. You also never saw KWP and Onomah or probably Edward's as 17yos at u18s level when you would no doubt have said the same thing you're saying about Parrott. The same Onomah Poch called special. What will you say when Parrott likely doesnt make it (though he is clearly good enough to play)? KWP had put in performances for our u18s and u23s that Parrott hasn't come close to, bit still isn't getting a chance and like spurs9 said has done well on his PL starts. How do you expect regular consistent performances without the game time

KWP no doubt has enough ability but his physicality is letting him down. He is 22 so is he going to get better in that respect in the future. I’m sure he spends plenty of time in the gym. The staff can obviously see what we see.
That shoulder barge by Ronaldo was slightly embarrassing for KWP. I would be ok with him as a wing back but rather worried if he was full back on regular basis. If we went with him and Sess as regular full backs I think we would be found out.
By the look of things I think Foyth will be given the chance to stake a claim.
Onomah hasn’t made it because he hasn’t taken his chance. The game passes him by. The question about best position ....Maitland Niles was a CM in the under 20 World Cup with Onomah but has played numerous times for Arsenal at FB and WB and done a decent job.
Parrott has been given a chance and is currently taking it. I thought Parrott would be on the bench by the end of the season but now looks like he will be there on a regular basis from the start of the season.
Whatever IT is he has IT. No one else in the youth appears close to his level.
Tanganga was very impressive in the Juve game. Lot of competition in his position so he will really have to play well to get a chance. At least he has shown what he can do. As has Skipp who seems to have stepped up a level.

 

[Schitzophonic]

Brother of Josh. Was on our books.

 

[coys200]

Yago Santiago has been pictured in the Under-18 changing rooms at Hotspur Way ahead of their friendlies against Manchester United and Ipswich Town, on Chay Cooper’s Snapchat story. This most likely means that he is going going to be part of the new intake but hasn’t signed yet, therefore why we haven’t announced our new scholarship intake yet.

Why do you think he hasn’t actually signed. He did a massive goodbye on his insta surely wouldn’t do that unless certain he’d signed.

 

[Anuth]

 

[Tom Hep]

Why do you think he hasn’t actually signed. He did a massive goodbye on his insta surely wouldn’t do that unless certain he’d signed.

I meant that as a possibility. There clearly is something that was holding back the announcement of the new intake, but it could’ve been the departure of Tobi Oluwayemi.

 

[Tom Hep]

One of the under-18 sides that were playing at Hotspur Way today drew 3-3 with Manchester United.

 

[Armstrong_11]

Brother of Josh. Was on our books.

Hmm... I think gk is quite tough for a young player to get his chance. It usually desperate situations when a young keeper gets a chance. Like casillas being thrown into the deep end at Madrid.

Is he one of those who we felt has potential?

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Bar Kane Pickford and Maguire none of those players are in the England team I was thinking of. Rice was awful and I still believe is well as a CM. May turn out a decent CB. Keane Wilson I don’t even consider England players. Dier and Henderson wouldn’t have got near an England team 15 years ago. And lingard no comment. The players I’m talking about are Trent Stones Gomez chillwell Sterling Rashford sancho Hudson etc all pretty obvious class from day dot. And now AWB and Greenwood.

Of course if we were to listen to those who unless the youngsters shine amazingly on their debuts - Kane would have been long gone he was booed by some sections of the crowd at the very beginning of his career presumably by some of the same people who cheered Jansen

KWP is a very exciting young player he has things to learn but he was an outstanding youth player, better going forward than defensively but he learnt quickly as a defender and if he has the opportunities he may do so again.

 

[coys200]

If be delighted to be proved wrong on KWP. Looks like he will get his chance this season as we’ve turned down a number of loan approaches.

 

[Anuth]

 

[coys200]

So sterling got 3 in 3 games ? Hopefully he can get a decent loan.

 

[mill]

https://www.football.london/tottenh...-oluwayemi-celtic-transfer-tottenham-16656946

 

[spurs9]

Bar Kane Pickford and Maguire none of those players are in the England team I was thinking of. Rice was awful and I still believe is well as a CM. May turn out a decent CB. Keane Wilson I don’t even consider England players. Dier and Henderson wouldn’t have got near an England team 15 years ago. And lingard no comment. The players I’m talking about are Trent Stones Gomez chillwell Sterling Rashford sancho Hudson etc all pretty obvious class from day dot. And now AWB and Greenwood.

Less than 18 months ago you said of Skipp "I know he is very highly regarded but I’m struggling to see it" and now just days ago you said "if you cant see what Skipp brings, maybe football is not for you", so let's not pretend you can tell "obvious class from day dot".

 

[coys200]

I clearly said it’s not every player but the majority. And Skipp has massively improved but I still wouldn’t say I’m 100% certain he will make it. And have said numerous times on here jury was out on Skipp as he’s 18. KWP is 22.

 

[kmk]

I clearly said it’s not every player but the majority. And Skipp has massively improved but I still wouldn’t say I’m 100% certain he will make it. And have said numerous times on here jury was out on Skipp as he’s 18. KWP is 22.

Do you still think that Skipp is a Mark Noble type player and Jack Roles will get nowhere near our first team squad?