The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

[knilly]

will be interesting to see who we bring in. Often clubs are measured on spend, but I’d like to see a handful of promising players be brought in.

 

[SUIYHA]

I know this is the narrative we hear from ITKs but I can’t remember any instance where we end up getting one of these targets that the elite clubs are supposedly interested in and then don’t pursue, can you ?

Van Der Vaart as well. Real had spent big money bringing in Ozil and Di Maria after the World Cup and were about to offload VdV to Bayern - the deal fell through on deadline day and Levy snapped him up on the cheap.

 

[LeParisien]

I think the point is players + agents hold out until they know the super clubs aren’t interested. It is not us choosing to only do business until the end of the window; it is a case of players only being willing to talk to us (if they have not been picked up) at the end of the window.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Van Der Vaart as well. Real had spent big money bringing in Ozil and Di Maria after the World Cup and were about to offload VdV to Bayern - the deal fell through on deadline day and Levy snapped him up on the cheap.

Oh yes I wondered how long someone would bring VdV, the once in a lifetime deadline day purchase made in 2010 that has been used by Daniel Levy to justify his transfer “strategy” ever since.

Can people not see that the fact you are scrabbling around for examples of where our “deadline day strategy” has worked or been relevant just goes to show how utterly ineffective it has been.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

I think the point is players + agents hold out until they know the super clubs aren’t interested. It is not us choosing to only do business until the end of the window; it is a case of players only being willing to talk to us (if they have not been picked up) at the end of the window.

Which players ? Based on our history either a) those players still didn’t want to sign for us even after the “elite” clubs pass or b) we simply aren’t trying to sign players that the elite clubs want. Either way it makes the “strategy” irrelevant.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

will be interesting to see who we bring in. Often clubs are measured on spend, but I’d like to see a handful of promising players be brought in.

Promising players yes but I’d really like to see one marquee signing, Dybala would be tasty (cue the SC hordes with “no way could we ever sign a player like Dybala”, the lack of ambition in here is really depressing).

 

[RichieS]

Which players ? Based on our history either a) those players still didn’t want to sign for us even after the “elite” clubs pass or b) we simply aren’t trying to sign players that the elite clubs want. Either way it makes the “strategy” irrelevant.

De Jong and Pulisic are examples from January.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

De Jong and Pulisic are examples from January.

Examples of what exactly ? We tried but got nowhere (apparently). Add them to the Rivaldo letter if it makes you feel better.

 

[LeParisien]

Which players ? Based on our history either a) those players still didn’t want to sign for us even after the “elite” clubs pass or b) we simply aren’t trying to sign players that the elite clubs want. Either way it makes the “strategy” irrelevant.

It’s a strategy by players + agents that means we have no choice. Elite players choose to go to elite clubs. You’ll find precious few examples otherwise.

We cannot sign elite players without huge sums of money because we have not historically been that prestigious. There is no great allure to spurs beyond the myths we tell ourselves. Obviously we all hope that will change going forward...

 

[RichieS]

Examples of what exactly ? We tried but got nowhere (apparently). Add them to the Rivaldo letter if it makes you feel better.

Examples of players we tried to sign when elite clubs also wanted them. So counter-examples to the idea that "we simply aren’t trying to sign players that the elite clubs want".

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

It’s a strategy by players + agents that means we have no choice. Elite players choose to go to elite clubs. You’ll find precious few examples otherwise.

We cannot sign elite players without huge sums of money because we have not historically been that prestigious. There is no great allure to spurs beyond the myths we tell ourselves. Obviously we all hope that will change going forward...

Not disputing that but then why supposedly wait around for them when they don’t want us or more relevantly we won’t spend the required money ?

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Examples of players we tried to sign when elite clubs also wanted them. So counter-examples to the idea that "we simply aren’t trying to sign players that the elite clubs want".

That isn’t relevant. If the strategy is to wait right until the end of the window to sign this type of player than you need examples, frequent examples not one from 2010 and another on 2013, where maybe it worked. The fact these players don’t sign for us even when we want them is just evidence of a need to change strategy. I’m not going to quote Einstein here because you know what he says about repeating the same thing and expecting a different outcome.

 

[LeParisien]

Not disputing that but then why supposedly wait around for them when they don’t want us or more relevantly we won’t spend the required money ?

It’s tricky... wait in vain hope or lower standards/ take risks...

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

It’s tricky... wait in vain hope or lower standards/ take risks...

No it really isn’t. Vain hope isn’t a strategy. Better to be realistic than be unrealistic and then end up scrambling and getting what is left.

As this thread amply demonstrates there are far more players available that 1) would improve us and 2) are affordable, than can be bought by all the elite clubs. We just need a clear strategy and half way decent scouting. I’m sadly sceptical on both counts.

There is an awful lot of talent between de Jong and GKN, that is where we should be shopping, hopefully closer to de Jong than GKN !

 

[RichieS]

That isn’t relevant. If the strategy is to wait right until the end of the window to sign this type of player than you need examples, frequent examples not one from 2010 and another on 2013, where maybe it worked. The fact these players don’t sign for us even when we want them is just evidence of a need to change strategy. I’m not going to quote Einstein here because you know what he says about repeating the same thing and expecting a different outcome.

Gotcha.

I agree with you on Dybala and also that he is the type of player we should be aiming for (I would put Brandt in this category as well). We have a lot to offer players like that, not least the fact that we can pay them more than they're currently on. I do think it's hard to sell Spurs to a player (and agent) who is also speaking to the very top clubs though.

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

Where are you going to fit them all?
Spurs already go the following CM: Dier, Wanyama, Skipp, Sissoko, Winks, Dele (I can't see Eriksen remaining) and Lamela can also play as CM.
Besides, with Wanyama's constant injury problems and Dier also being for large periods of this season Spurs would need at least 1 DM this summer,
Not sure if Joachim Andersen is better than Foyth.

Wanyama gone if we could find a suitor - Lamela as a center midfielder? Dele and Eriksen higher up pitch so you’re looking at dier, skipp, sissoko and winks for 60 games.

 

[Dharmabum]

Wanyama gone if we could find a suitor - Lamela as a center midfielder? Dele and Eriksen higher up pitch so you’re looking at dier, skipp, sissoko and winks for 60 games.

Where did you get that Spurs are looking to sell Wanyama? If he's not fit yes but if he's recoverd then for sure they'll keep him (anyway, neither of us know his health status). Besides, if Spurs did sell him they'd need a DM to replace and none of the 3 (Grealish, Gomes, Tielemans) are DM.
Eriksen is a MF and occupies 1 of the 3 MF spots so yes he's a midfielder (but he'll probably leave this summer).
I am surprise that not only you be a few others seem to think Lamela is only fit to play as a WF when he spend so much time in the middle of the pitch either attacking or defending. I could easily see him play as an attacking MF - now he's basically an attacking wide midfielder. However, due to his bad injury record and the physical demand of the EPL I won't mind it if Lamela was sold if a decent offer came in for him. He's got a great fighting spirit but even that's not enough to fight those injuries he keeps getting.
I'd take 2 of Grealish, Gomes and Tielemans though.

 

[Locotoro]

After seeing his performance against City today Wan Bissaka is not the solution for us. I can accept mistakes and I can accept errors but laziness? No way.

Ambling back for the final goal after giving the ball away needlessly

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I think it was rather that they wouldn't guarantee him much playing time. I doubt even Barca would spend £42 million on a then 20 years old to play him in the B team.

They wanted him before he joined Ajax.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

After seeing his performance against City today Wan Bissaka is not the solution for us. I can accept mistakes and I can accept errors but laziness? No way.

Ambling back for the final goal after giving the ball away needlessly

FFS. Utter nonsense judging a player after watching one game. Do you remember Rose and Walker before Poch joined?