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No. Not when Warwick himself says it won't have an impact
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No. Not when Warwick himself says it won't have an impact
Focussing on net spend without look at the figures behind it is hugely disingenuous, wouldn't it be far better to focus on the quality of the players sold and the players signed in their respective positions?A lot of fans, including myself, believe that a net transfer spend of £29m since Poch got here isn't really good enough for a club that's supposed to want to challenge.
No. Not when Warwick himself says it won't have an impact
What's amazing to me is that over the last few pages there wasn't any people shitting the bed or being overly negative or criticising levy, Literally none of these things. Then there was 1 claim that people are losing their minds, proceeds to argue an argument that simply wasn't there which obviously gets a few people to come out the woodwork and disagree and then there's a debate for which there wasn't a need for one. Fantastic.
The rest of this season is the biggest test in Pochettino’s Spurs career so far, time for him prove he’s as good as we think he is.
All he’s achieved with the lack of investment proves that already. This would merely be his latest magic trick of many.
So far he’s proven himself at every stage pretty much, but this is his latest big challenge and a great manager keeps proving themselves. I have faith he will pass this test, but if he doesn’t then it’s something for him to learn from.
Apart from the summer just gone there has been no lack of investment. Every other summer of his tenure has seen at least one player arrive who is still integral to the current side. And there have been no magic tricks, he has been getting the best out of a group of very good players. I call that ‘doing his job very well’. Avb didn’t. And you speak in past tenses. So far yes, Pochettino has proved himself at every hurdle, so in a sense you are right, all her has achieved proves he is great, but a manager is only as good as his current achievements, so just because he has proved himself so far, doesn’t mean there is no pressure for him to pass this next test. In fact, I’d say that he expects far more from himself than you appear to expect from him, and that is probably why he will pass this test, because he does appear to be a winner.
Injury ravaged squad with best player and other most on form player, yes he has to prove that he can keep us at this level, and I never said I’d start doubting him if we falter here, I said that if he’s as good as we think he is (I said we, that quite literally includes me), then he has to prove that he can keep us competing in this next period with these challenges. If he can’t, and we slip away because we suddenly don’t have the benefit of the world’s best striker against Leicester, Watford, Burnley, Newcastle and Fulham, then he has room for growth. That’s not a put down, that’s merely what he will expect from himself to.
You lot are so precious. You infer a put down towards Pochettino where there isn’t one, one of you feel the need to unnecessarily have a dig at the chairman when he is in no way relevant to this discussion, when all I said was that this is a big test for Pochettino and he needs to prove himself, for his sake and ours.
This guy got it. He’s better than all of you.
Could it not be argued that it's the in-built fear factor of yesteryear rearing it's ugly head once more.
Maybe some are so apprehensive after witnessing Spurs falter time after time when on the cusp of great achievements.
The current injury crisis allowing for the dread to reappear. I personally think we will get through this tricky period, and yes the upcoming fixtures still see us strong man v man league wise...but, no guarantees of winning any football match.
On that basis. I just try and enjoy for what it is...C'est la Vie.
I don't know about BBLG, but the thing that really gets my goat is the absolute certainty with which some doom-mongers post. It's almost like they want us to cock up just so they can say "I told you so".
And by just enjoying things for what they are, you will derive far more pleasure from supporting this great club and be far more measured in your appraisal of any given circumstance. I would agree on the point that a lot of this negativity is based on some form of Spurs related PTSD apart from the fact that I am convinced a lot it is coming from more recent fans who weren't that dedicated/ loyal in the bad old days anyway and are really just a bit jealous of the mega rich clubs, because those of us who were around when things were genuinely going through tough times are in the main quite appreciative of how far we've come and from how far behind.
Absolutely what gets me. I feel like this site is populated with people who are ENIC/ Levy haters first and Spurs supporters second, who are far more concerned in saying "see, we've fucked up because we didn't spend £75m on Shineylio di Newplayerinho" than they are in actually watching what's in front of us and judging it for what it is. At the end of the day you can only have 11 players on the pitch at any given time and apart from Barcelona and Man City this season, there hasn't been any occasion this season where we'd not have at least half the players in a combined xi. Who signed the cheques to sign those players? Who orchestrated the development of our youth academy and coaching facilities to improve those players? Must be some kind of mythical spaghetti monster, because Levy is just a stingy **** who wants us to fail apparently.
A lot of fans, including myself, believe that a net transfer spend of £29m since Poch got here isn't really good enough for a club that's supposed to want to challenge.
What is my opinion please?I think you’ll find (see, I like evidence) it all started with this:
To which jurgen brought up the issue of investment/ lack of in direct response to:
To which I responded with:
The following gents then expanded with:
Which in kind I expanded on with:
Then Paolo decided to follow jurgens lead:
And I, as ever, reverted to cold, hard, indisputable and easily available evidence to support my disagreement with him.
@Archibald&Crooks took the high ground and threw out a doh, but in fairness his opinion isn’t exactly a mystery to us, and @scat1620 did likewise but I’m not sure I want to live in a world where I agree with anything he believes.
Good job you're not a precious type, LeGin.[massive wall of indignant text]
You lot are so precious.
To be fair, and BBLG doesn’t need me fighting his corner, but he didn’t say that he was doing everything right.The Chairman of the BSODL has spoken and Daniel is doing everything right.
I think you’ll find (see, I like evidence) it all started with this:
To which jurgen brought up the issue of investment/ lack of in direct response to:
To which I responded with:
The following gents then expanded with:
Which in kind I expanded on with:
Then Paolo decided to follow jurgens lead:
And I, as ever, reverted to cold, hard, indisputable and easily available evidence to support my disagreement with him.
@Archibald&Crooks took the high ground and threw out a doh, but in fairness his opinion isn’t exactly a mystery to us, and @scat1620 did likewise but I’m not sure I want to live in a world where I agree with anything he believes.
This didn’t at all start with me trying to create debate where any was necessar, this started with my innocuous comment about this next 7 weeks being a big test off whether our manager is as good as we believe being used as a trigger for people to unnecessary bring up investment and net spend. I introduced no such topic, merely reacted to those who felt it appropriate to grind their axes.
What is my opinion please?
Oh and i bow to your expertise in the high ground because everything you’ve posted reeks of it
To be fair, and BBLG doesn’t need me fighting his corner, but he didn’t say that he was doing everything right.
I think all Levy supporters rightly criticised him for the pathetic display in the summer window
Yeah you're right, one person saying hes done well despite lack of investment really did warrant the calling out of negativity and levy hate along with all the posts after. My bad.
You'll 'not be told' but are quite happy to do the telling and you aren't taking the high ground. Just because you SAY you aren't taking the high ground doesn't make it so.I take no high ground, I just don’t deal in sensationalist bullshit. As for your opinion, in this instance it’s that you think my opinion is a load of bollocks, or else you’d not have given me a doh rating. As for your overriding opinion beyond this conversation, I would infer from you years of posting that it’s that you think the club should have a different attitude towards transfers. I may have misinferred there but, just in case I haven’t, I have no issue with you are anyone holding this opinion, I just have little time for the tired, misinformed lies that there hasn’t been investment in players to improve the squad during Pochettino’s tenure, or the focus on net spend without any contractual analysis.
And I take no high ground, I just refuse to accept an opinion which is not backed up by substance in an age where every bit of information needed to form a valid argument is available at a fingers click, not will I be told I have goaded people into a Levy/ anti Levy debate when the who thing begin with other posters bringing such things up in response to my post that, broken down, said nothing more than ‘we think Pochettino is well good at what he does, this next run of matches is a test of that with all these injuries and stuff’. And yes, I have bitten, because you’ve been facetious instead of actually contributing.
The man just oozes class. He plays the media perfectly.
Look at all these other managers of late, or currently at the supposed 'big clubs'...
Klopp's constant punching everytime Scouse score is way over the top and just embarrassing. Add to this his constant ignorance to the rules if Liverpool fail to win or struggle.
Mourinho. Well it's all about him and he's prepared to publicly chuck any player under the bus.
Sarri. He now has come out and publicly questioned Chelsea's motivation regarding player performance.
Conte at Chelsea previously had aired gripes with the board in public.
Meanwhile...back at the ranch, the cool, charasmatic Poch, happily goes about his business safe in the knowledge that his rivals are mere pretenders.
I take no high ground, I just don’t deal in sensationalist bullshit. As for your opinion, in this instance it’s that you think my opinion is a load of bollocks, or else you’d not have given me a doh rating. As for your overriding opinion beyond this conversation, I would infer from you years of posting that it’s that you think the club should have a different attitude towards transfers. I may have misinferred there but, just in case I haven’t, I have no issue with you are anyone holding this opinion, I just have little time for the tired, misinformed lies that there hasn’t been investment in players to improve the squad during Pochettino’s tenure, or the focus on net spend without any contextual analysis.
And I take no high ground, I just refuse to accept an opinion which is not backed up by substance in an age where every bit of information needed to form a valid argument is available at a fingers click, not will I be told I have goaded people into a Levy/ anti Levy debate when the who thing begin with other posters bringing such things up in response to my post that, broken down, said nothing more than ‘we think Pochettino is well good at what he does, this next run of matches is a test of that with all these injuries and stuff’. And yes, I have bitten, because you’ve been facetious instead of actually contributing.