The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - SC goes Pink for the British Heart Foundation

[jonnyrotten]

Ok, so as with every player we are linked with via the media I shoot a few messages off to see if anyone has heard anything, and it was quite positive for both LM and ML. We have been talking with reps for both. I wouldn't say either are close but talks have been positive so there are deals that could possibly be done.

As I mentioned yesterday sooo many European clubs are a tricky spot right now and many need to sell just to keep their heads above water. Just like us though no one wants to sell their best players, but just like us everyone is finding it difficult to move their deadwood.

D1 said it yesterday the final week is going to be manic,not just for us but for everyone. As clubs realise they aren't going to get the offers for their fringe players the ones we actually want will be achievable. We want 4 more in(5 if Harry goes) and the only way to do that is to get them at favourable prices. At least this year we have numerous players for each position so if one doesn't happen we are ready for the others. It won't be a case of waiting for all of them and I believe we will get a couple in sooner rather than later. The others though will more than likely be late on.

The Harry situation is very complicated. As of now unless City change their stance I'd say he's very likely to stay. Not sure if they can't, or won't but as of now they are not getting near the asking price. They are trying to throw in players which of course the are over valuing, and also these players are not going to fit within the wage parameters Paratici is trying to achieve. We have our lists and there are no City players on it, so it doesn't really matter.

If I had to give my opinion(and things are changing daily) I'd say it was 70/80% Harry stays, but then if anyone can 'find' the money it's City.

Thanks mate, well appreciated. The "4 more in, 5 if Harry goes" part is so interesting and for me assumes player #5 would be world class.

Comment to others (not asking Trix a Q): For arguments' sake, assuming we do get circa £140m for Harry, does that mean we would have a very large proportion of this to spend on his replacement? We'd have the money for a very high calibre player if so, attracting them with our wage structure and no champs league would be another matter indeed.

 

[Rob]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

 

[worcestersauce]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

Sounds like a good idea if all the stories of financial failure are true.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

Makes a lot of sense. Now is the time to spend. Make the most of a depressed market. Also gives us the best chance at getting back in the CL and accessing the income that brings.

 

[yawa]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

Don’t get my hopes up. I’m still expecting the inevitable shit show when it doesn’t all work out.

 

[freeeki]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

Sounds good to me.

Massive rebuild now, let the new players and newly-promoted academy players bed in, and then make smaller tweaks down the line as older players (Hugo? Lucas? Davies?) inevitably move on in a year or two.

Far preferable to proactively sign young players now as opposed to constantly firefighting which is what it looks like we’ve been doing for a few seasons.

It’s why I’m keen on players like Damsgaard even if there isn’t an immediate pressing “need” for this season.

 

[Stevospurs18]

The three main players City are looking to cast off:

Bernardo Silva (£150k pw)
Laporte (£120k pw)
Jesus (£90k pw)

I'd be disappointed if we weren't able to fit those players into our wage structure.

I'm of the opinion that the only way this deal goes through is if we accept one or more of these players as part exchange and of course City being more realistic with their values.

 

[viktorviktor]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

This. And better to spend the money this window when there's a fire sale on players in Europe.

 

[Col_M]

This financial chaos across Europe.... Are any English clubs in the same boat or is Premiership money still lucrative? I imagine even the relegated clubs are protected with the parachute payments.

 

[Trix]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

Absolutely.

The other scenario is that we have a successful season win something and qualify for the CL. Harry stays and the prize money for CL covers it. Either way we've built a very young squad full of players with long contracts and a high ceiling, with little long term risk.

 

[Scott Spur]

Personally, I reckon the Kane transfer is somewhat factored in. e.g. if he goes next year, it pays for Romero's transfer fee. We could well see us spend the full amount this year but that'd effectively be using up next year's funds as well.

If all goes as well as they seem to be heading this will be a great window and a real show of ambition by the club. I seem to remember some Spurs player chatting on a golf course asking the club to show some ambition recently.......

 

[Trix]

This financial chaos across Europe.... Are any English clubs in the same boat or is Premiership money still lucrative? I imagine even the relegated clubs are protected with the parachute payments.

As far as I'm aware Prem clubs are on the whole fine. Arsenal in theory should have been hit worse than anyone else, and yet they are still spending.

 

[Kingellesar]

Absolutely.

The other scenario is that we have a successful season win something and qualify for the CL. Harry stays and the prize money for CL covers it. Either way we've built a very young squad full of players with long contracts and a high ceiling, with little long term risk.

Was just about to post something similar, it's a gamble but a safe one. We either deliver financially through a successful season or we sell Kane next summer.

I think prem clubs are obviously better off financially, hence why all clubs are making large transfers still, Sancho, White, Romero, Lukaku, Konate, Bailey.

 

[gazzeh]

LM is inter striker. Who is ML?

 

[mark87]

LM is inter striker. Who is ML?

Maxence Lacroix.

 

[thelak]

This. And better to spend the money this window when there's a fire sale on players in Europe.

Being able to act now would restore some faith in ENIC and Levy in my view

Levy always prided himself on being fiscally prudent and not doing a Leeds

if that is the case and now he acts as others have then a lot of his past discipline when we were knocking on the doors of winning trophies at least has some pay off Further down the line

 

[sausage]

As far as I'm aware Prem clubs are on the whole fine. Arsenal in theory should have been hit worse than anyone else, and yet they are still spending.

If they suddenly announce a sponsor deal with Klarna, we'll know why


I expect a lot of clubs are going to be hedging this summer's spending against next season's income, so I don't doubt some teams are gambling on the whole 'lockdown' and 'no attendances' thing never repeating, which may be a folly. I guess we've at least got Kane as our collateral, and there seems to be a suggestion that there's some other reason behind the scenes based on recent ITK/hints, but we'll see soon enough.

another 4/5 does sound quite crazy considering there's, seemingly, not really been any progress out outgoings yet.

 

[matjcole]

As far as I'm aware Prem clubs are on the whole fine. Arsenal in theory should have been hit worse than anyone else, and yet they are still spending.

Happy to take the discussion elsewhere, but out of interest why Arsenal in particular?

 

[FinnYid]

This financial chaos across Europe.... Are any English clubs in the same boat or is Premiership money still lucrative? I imagine even the relegated clubs are protected with the parachute payments.

Guess income structure of PL teams was less effected by situation? At least many clubs were better equipped for decline in income.

Anyway slightly worried about any strategy relying too much on last week of transfer window. Pieces don't often tend to fall into place like we anticipate.

 

[robspur]

As far as I'm aware Prem clubs are on the whole fine. Arsenal in theory should have been hit worse than anyone else, and yet they are still spending.

Sky and BT Sport extended their deal with EPL on same value. Note the last value was extreme as BT and Sky were in an auction and fearful of Amazon and others joining the party.

whilst TV deals across Europe are reducing, EPL has held their position, and relative tothe market it means growth.

So English teams have a base level of security and both BT and Sky are highly unlikely to hit financial problems.