The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - DEADLINE DAY 31st August 2021

[ernest_lowrider]

There are some here wetting there little white panties saying that we are doomed because we have not replaced our Goal Scorers form last season.

Our defence is now much stronger, and we have a new manager with a different approach. If we move to a more consistent 3-5-3 (which has been alluded to) we should have the right personnel within the squad to cope adequately with this set up.

We are in a far better position than the end of last season.

And trying to use the losses of last seasons squad to show how weak we are now is a little naïve given that we haven't lost Kane and/or Son

I know the 7th place was mainly a result of our shambolic defense, but I'm not entirely sure simply replacing goals from last season is good enough for our ambitions

 

[spursfan77]

All of that seems pretty sensible tbh.

The only thing I would question is Daniel not paying "striker wages".

I think this is a misstep from our chairman; there are 10-15 games every season where you need quality, fresh-legs up front. You win these games and it makes or breaks the season.

I don't really see how we're getting back into the CL without forking out on a back-up striker.

Tbh, I think the £150k p/w (£8m a year) wages on a back-up striker is worth it.

I think not going for Ings will be a mistake and suspect that’s what that comment is in relation to.

 

[spurmin]

Well, we do have to conserve our money.

That’s a bit jarring.

 

[golfspurs]

Thank you A&C, Rob, All SC staffs, JJ, Trix, Hercules etc.
Therefore we miss some target, but I stilled enjoy this windows, see you next Winter window

 

[Aphex]

Honestly, why do you bother with Spurs at all?

Not sure why what I said you find so irritating. Cold hard truths hard to hear? I don’t rate winks and Alli for various reasons and called the youth players in our squad young and unproven.

I also said Moura and Berg aren’t good enough and don’t score anywhere near enough.

This is all accurate. My reference is always what it will realistically take to challenge for top 4. Maybe your ambitions are lower or you overrate certain average players, that’s fine but don’t expect everyone to share your opinion.

I’m excited for the season ahead but still feel we are short in certain key areas.

 

[sebo_sek]

Not sure why what I said you find so irritating. Cold hard truths hard to hear? I don’t rate winks and Alli for various reasons and called the youth players in our squad young and unproven.

I also said Moura and Berg aren’t good enough and don’t score anywhere near enough.

This is all accurate. My reference is always what it will realistically take to challenge for top 4. Maybe your ambitions are lower or you overrate certain average players, that’s fine but don’t expect everyone to share your opinion.

I’m excited for the season ahead but still feel we are short in certain key areas.

By all means be critical. It's just the way you worded the post suggests that there aren't any players who aren't meh, or need to prove themselves, apart from Kane and Son. Alli, while being far off from where he was 3 years ago, has already given us 3 points this year and is showing signs of improvement. I could go on but your focus on the negative created an impression that you might be better off supporting someone else. In sky blue perhaps.

Just give NES and the lads a chance, eh?

 

[HobbitSpur]

I know the 7th place was mainly a result of our shambolic defense, but I'm not entirely sure simply replacing goals from last season is good enough for our ambitions

I completely agree.

The point I was trying to make was that many are here are on meltdown because we have lost players this window and we need to replace the goals they scored last season, when in fact that job does not seem as difficult as they make out.

edit; and tbf our defense last season was not that shambolic, 1 more conceded than United, 3 more than Liverpool and 9 more than Chelsea. It was the sloppy goals that we conceded from winning positions that let us down. We were never "battered" with the exception of the meltdown against West Ham

 

[spurmin]

By all means be critical. It's just the way you worded the post suggests that there aren't any players who aren't meh, or need to prove themselves, apart from Kane and Son. Alli, while being far off from where he was 3 years ago, has already given us 3 points this year and is showing signs of improvement. I could go on but your focus on the negative created an impression that you might be better off supporting someone else. In sky blue perhaps.

Just give NES and the lads a chance, eh?

COYS

 

[makeveli]

Anyone worked out how much we’ve shaved on the wage bill yet?

 

[spurs mental]

I get the disappointment but I find it difficult to understand the negativity from some people over something that none of us can control.

It feels like some people, not just our own fans, want signings for the sake of signings.

We've addressed some key areas that I'm sure everyone would have been happy with at the start of the summer considering how last season went. A CB and RB would have been well accepted.

Would have been nice to add to the midfield but obviously not being able to get Ndombele to budge has effected that, so can understand why he's still here. We have to hope he gets his arse in gear or GLC find form and fitness. .

It's not all roses, but it's not all anywhere near as bad as what some are making it out either. Conceding goals was our issue last season, fix the defence first and the rest will follow.

The team ethos and moral already looks better than it has done since about late 2019 so it's a good start in the right direction. A team better than the sum of its parts is when we've always been at our best.

 

[dudu]

There has been a lot of balanced posts in here since last night which is great to see. Obviously there is a lot of wild hyperbole being thrown around too but that is to be expected as people have been preparing themselves to lose their shit for weeks already

As always I think it's fair to say that 2 things can be true at the same time.

1) we have made some great signings this window
2) we have left ourselves a little short up front and, creatively in CM.

One doesn't have to trump the other and neither in a vacuum tells the whole story of the window.

I would say over the last 3 years we have been seeing the rebuild happening. We have signed a lot of good players and a couple that don't look like they will cut it.

Id love for N'dombele to find a way to get himself back in the team as a firing N'dombele is what we desperately need.

And the striker situation, while frustrating, is not the be all and end all just yet. Let's see if Nuno can add goals from elsewhere before we claim that we don't have any.

Ultimately we are stronger at the back, have a good foundation on which to build and seemingly only need a couple of additions to really set us up for a good fight to get back into the CL. Fixing all our issues was never going to be possible in one window but I feel we have been doing it slowly for a few years now.

Sometimes you need more than just players, everything needs to click into place and the sum of your parts can be so much more than the individuals.

 

[Aphex]

By all means be critical. It's just the way you worded the post suggests that there aren't any players who aren't meh, or need to prove themselves, apart from Kane and Son. Alli, while being far off from where he was 3 years ago, has already given us 3 points this year and is showing signs of improvement. I could go on but your focus on the negative created an impression that you might be better off supporting someone else. In sky blue perhaps.

Just give NES and the lads a chance, eh?

I think a lot of our players need to prove themselves. By virtue all our new signings do, plus all the youth prospects and Skipp. In fact Dier and Sanchez also have to prove themselves after recent terrible seasons.

My issues with Alli are not his penalty taking but when he is in possession. I don’t think it’s negative just being realistic, it’s a counter to the people who look at our squad and think we look fine. Too many unknown variables for me in comparison to our rivals in this league.

Dier and Sanchez could go on to have unexpected great seasons, Alli may turn it around, Moura and Berg may completely change their trends and score much more (this one is particularly unlikely). I’m just saying I’m dubious but will of course hope for the best and especially hope our new signings all do really well.

 

[SamR]

A big thank you to all of the ITKs and Mods for making this window as entertaining as ever.

We didn’t get the striker we were all hoping for, and we might get caught with our pants down with an unlucky injury or two, but we’ve signed some young and exciting players to push us forward this year. I’m most excited about Gil and rooting for Dane Scarlett to cement his place in the match day squad.

Lots of players have stayed who we wanted to see the back of, but in some ways, if the likes of Dele, Winks, Dier & Sanchez come good, I’d be chuffed for them and respect them all for staying and fighting for a place.

We go into September top of the league and it might not last long, but then we’ve got January to sort it out…right? Right?

COYS

 

[dudu]

Really happy with the work that we HAVE done for this season. It's a shame we couldn't bring in 1 or 2 further players to really strengthen the 1st 11.

Sarr is one for the future and will have zero impact on this season. Hoijberg will be blowing come Feb.

Great work on the outs which has really streamlined the squad albeit revealing some gaps that we can hopefully sort next summer.

6.5/10. IMO it was imperative that we achieved more this summer. Like @Rob said a 'short heavy overhaul' would be better than a 'long drawn out one'

Not signing a striker is bat shit mental.

Chillax, chill out yeah, we got this yeah. Laughable. Anyways.

Onwards with the season. COYS.

The thing is about the short and heavy overhaul is that we kinda tried that to the tune of 90M on two players meant to overhaul our midfield.

Two unproved CMs cost us 90M and it hasn't entirely left us better off?

There is no magic wand and none of these tactics are guaranteed to work unfortunately.

 

[septicsac]

Disappointing to hear Levy won't pay strikers wages when certainly charging the prices for same at the gate, hope we do not pay for this during the season if we incur injuries.
In fairness it is getting next to near impossible to keep up with City, Chelsea and utd with their spending power, added to that you have a very strong Pool squad as well.
Unless there is some enforcement of Ffp rules we will always struggle to break top 4, but hopefully when Covid subsides and the stadium starts taking in money we can become more competitive in transfer markets.

Will be interesting to see how our new players fair out, has our scouting improved and has there been proper due diligence carried out with the transfers, unlike what happened with nDombele.

 

[King of the Lane]

I guess Im just a bit confused as to why it ended up as Adama Traore or nobody. If everyone knows we are lacking creativity then why could we not have gone for Aouar or someone else if we had the money and space for Traore? Just seems a very weird end to the window.

Im buzzing with Emerson Royal though as I have been telling people we should sign him since the very beginning of the window!

 

[sifub]

All in all a good window (in my opinion). I'm pleased we didn't spunk 50mil on Traore. The squad needed some evolution and I think we are in a better position longer term

 

[sebo_sek]

I think a lot of our players need to prove themselves. By virtue all our new signings do, plus all the youth prospects and Skipp. In fact Dier and Sanchez also have to prove themselves after recent terrible seasons.

My issues with Alli are not his penalty taking but when he is in possession. I don’t think it’s negative just being realistic, it’s a counter to the people who look at our squad and think we look fine. Too many unknown variables for me in comparison to our rivals in this league.

Dier and Sanchez could go on to have unexpected great seasons, Alli may turn it around, Moura and Berg may completely change their trends and score much more (this one is particularly unlikely). I’m just saying I’m dubious but will of course hope for the best and especially hope our new signings all do really well.

And yet we've already beaten the champions and not by a fluke either. We've been winning 1-0 but could and should have scored more each time. Once the sights get dialed in, we'll see the full potential of the side. It's not the names on the team sheet, it's the team on the field.
I get what ypu're saying though

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Thank you A&C, Rob, All SC staffs, JJ, Trix, Hercules etc.
Therefore we miss some target, but I stilled enjoy this windows, see you next Winter window View attachment 96095

Why is Gazzaniga wearing chef whites?

 

[nedley]

The thing is about the short and heavy overhaul is that we kinda tried that to the tune of 90M on two players meant to overhaul our midfield.

Two unproved CMs cost us 90M and it hasn't entirely left us better off?

There is no magic wand and none of these tactics are guaranteed to work unfortunately.

I'd argue you need to vet your players better (in respect to Ndombele).