The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 28th August 2021

[Frozen_Waffles]

In your opinion, a fan of the buying club. There were also a large number of city fans who thought their valuation of Kane was realistic.

Yes, but the fee they are supposedly asking for is 40m. Which I think most of us and wolves fans think is reasonable if you include contract length, end product, desire to leave and mendes influence.

Our offer was supposedly a loan (with a 5m fee) and an obligation next season. Which is a fucking terrible offer no matter what else is happening.

I imagine wolves are pissed off with our derisory offer and are happy for the player to stay. Like Kane, we need to pay up or look at different options.

 

[Finchyid]

Can't believe the reaction to Dragon mentioning Sarr. The bloke is electric and is a potential superstar imo. He's 23 and already has a complete skillset, there's a reason Klopp was after him last summer. I'd love him.

thought he was their best player..I would take him here

 

[spud]

I'm not sure why we want Traore. He's a bulky Lucas Moura without the subtlety. Lucas, unlike Traore, can finish.

 

[Amo]

I'm not sure why we want Traore. He's a bulky Lucas Moura without the subtlety. Lucas, unlike Traore, can finish.

It's a football match not a wine tasting course.

 

[GetKaned]

This somehow feels like the best window we ever had wherein reality we have only signed one first team starter so far. The longer we go the deeper I am into the "get someone in" territory. At least with Traore it would be fun to watch.

 

[jolsnogross]

If we have 50M I'd offer it to Wolves and see if it works. It's not like he's half the player or half the value of Grealish, and he's just 25 yrs old. I still think Wolves would be mad to accept it, but I'm hoping they are laying the ground work with their new signing and maybe another to allow Traore to come to us.

Traore's special ability isn't pace or strength, but they contribute to his skill of drawing players into close contact before a quick shift to leave them in his dust. He's really got impressive tricky feet to draw a challenge and break away from it at the last moment. Basically, what we hoped Ndombele would also offer. Christ, we'd be back into the top 4 reckoning if we had Traore and an Ndombele who pulls his finger out.

Not happening on either score though, I'm afraid.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

If we have 50M I'd offer it to Wolves and see if it works. It's not like he's half the player or half the value of Grealish, and he's just 25 yrs old. I still think Wolves would be mad to accept it, but I'm hoping they are laying the ground work with their new signing and maybe another to allow Traore to come to us.

Traore's special ability isn't pace or strength, but they contribute to his skill of drawing players into close contact before a quick shift to leave them in his dust. He's really got impressive tricky feet to draw a challenge and break away from it at the last moment. Basically, what we hoped Ndombele would also offer. Christ, we'd be back into the top 4 reckoning if we had Traore and an Ndombele who pulls his finger out.

Not happening on either score though, I'm afraid.

Agree with all this. I think he’d be a great buy but I just can’t see why wolves would sell their best player.

I think he’s transform our attack personally

As for Tanguy - it’s a source of sadness that someone who could give us everything we need in midfield, just can’t be bothered to play. I can’t see how he’ll come good

 

[Reece_Spurs]

Agree with all this. I think he’d be a great buy but I just can’t see why wolves would sell their best player.

I think he’s transform our attack personally

As for Tanguy - it’s a source of sadness that someone who could give us everything we need in midfield, just can’t be bothered to play. I can’t see how he’ll come good

I don't think he would, normally.. But. With the way we've set up so far this season i'm slowly warming to the idea he could be good for our current set up.

I'm still probably 70-30 against signing him, but as I said, the way we seem to set up under Nuno he could work. I actually think he'd be best a bit deeper though and on the counter, skinning the first line of defence then passing it on further forward, I still don't think in the final 3rd he offers much more than what we already have, certainly not if he's going to cost £40m+

I actually think Traore would possibly work better in the set up we had before Kane came back into the team. Kane likes to drop deeper and he's proved many times him picking the ball up on the halfway line right at the beginning of a counter attack, he's probably going to pick a pass to Son or whoever else is making that run, I wouldn't want him putting Traore through on goal though.

£40m I can warm to, I think anything over that can be better spent if i'm being honest. People keep posting these "Traore vs X" videos as if there's something in them we havn't seen, we've seen him skinning players all game long for a few years now, his dribbling success rate stats and take on stats bla bla bla. If you're after stats, Traore - 143 premier league appearances, 7 goals and 14 assists. Lucas Moura - 106 appearances 17 goals 9 assists. Even Stevie B has 4 goals and 5 assists in only 38 appearances. Thats only 3 goals fewer and 9 assists fewer having played 105 games less.

I get he's exciting and "creates space" but numbers never lie, and the only numbers that matter when you're in one of the 3 forward roles is goals and assists and he doesn't provide either.

 

[punkisback]

It's a football match not a wine tasting course.

I mean we are Spurs we’re are our flair players? We were promised something else something more to do with our DNA. I for one wouldn’t mind him as an addition. But I can’t see him being a long term solution.
The ITK confidence that we will make moves does
Reassure me a bit.

 

[THE SPURSBOY]

So manic Monday. Let’s hope FP is ready to pull the trigger on all those deals

 

[Dannyspur]

I'm not sure why we want Traore. He's a bulky Lucas Moura without the subtlety. Lucas, unlike Traore, can finish.

very slightly more often

edit - just to clarify (over the last two seasons lucas scored 7 league goals and traore scored 6)

 

[Spud82]

Traore with the way he trains, eats and plays has another 3 yrs at the top level. Hes 26 in Jan, he's an elite sprinter, body builder, no way he can continue this into his 30s and Wolves know it. This is a great deal for them

 

[cozzo]

It’s the outgoings I am more focused on that incomings

 

[crazyguitarman]

It’s the outgoings I am more focused on that incomings

Yeah, if we manage to find a buyer for Ndombele you'd have to think there would be a first team ready player coming the other way... but by all accounts that is looking like a pipe dream at this point

 

[THE SPURSBOY]

We need incomings badly. An attacking forward and an attacking minded creative midfielder. Potentially a RB

 

[Dakes]

Less than 48 hours to get a Kyle Walker, Christian Eriksen and Mousa Dembele. Yikes!

 

[Dirtysanchez6]

It’s the outgoings I am more focused on that incomings

Really ? We haven’t replaced vini or bale or sissoko lol

 

[Spud82]

With time ticking away, realistically I think we have 3 opportunities there with Traore, Tomi and Aouar but doubt we will get all 3 done.

> Traore is very much dependant on Wolves getting the right fee and a replacement in which I don't think will happen.
> I can see Aurier leaving on loan with Tomi coming in
> And same for Ndombele, last minute loan deal with Aouar coming in

 

[raymar31]

Seems very quiet if any major transfers are to take place in less than 2 days.

 

[Yiddo100]

Seems very quiet if any major transfers are to take place in less than 2 days.

Something could break at anytime