The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 1st September 2015 DEADLINE DAY!

[Jospur]

I'm very pleased with the acquisition of Son Heung-Min. And N'Jie seems just what we need out wide. I'm also pleased (in a way) of our earlier interest in Martial. Man Utd have just stumped up a gazillion amount of money for him but that now makes me wonder if Levy could have had him for a lot less if he hadn't been on his habitual hunt for a bargain basement deal.

So, as usual, much was 'promised' but little delivered.

I feel for Pochettino as maybe the wool has been pulled over his eyes regarding transfers. A little like AVB...

The word was that Pochettino vetoed the move of Lamela to Marseille. Could he have got a sense at that time that incomings in the last few days would be zero?

We were told that we could expect a striker, a centre midfielder and a young prospect in the last few days. None of this came about. Was this PR stuff to keep the fans on their toes or what?

Levy has a habit of failing in these deadline day deals. Perhaps this is a deliberate strategy? He could say (through the PR machine) that we tried but just couldn't get the deal done. But maybe the reason the deal couldn't be done is that his offer was way below the player's value.

A real disappointing day for me. And it sounds like the same for most Spurs' fans.

Too bad.

I wonder whether 'lessons have been learned' will be spouted at the next window. I also wonder whether Spurs fans in this forum will have learned their lessons and not believe the perpetual crap that's been spouted through the Club's PR gang.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Are you capable of grasping the concept of a development academy ? The same people saying give Veljkovic a chance instead of buying a fucking massively overpriced decent but ordinary alternative are possibly the same who have seen the results of giving Kane a chance, or Bentaleb or Mason - you know those players that went toe to toe with the likes of McCarthy & Wanyama and came out best.

You realise that two of the biggest purchases made this summer were players under 21. Sterling (50m) and Martial (36m). How the fuck do you think that happened ? think about it….I'll save us both a a couple of hours, they got played by their clubs as teenagers. As did a couple of the players we have bought. Could their be something in this philosophy ? Especially if you have hired a manager based on his supposed coaching ability, not his ability to wheel and deal in football's middle market.



Days like this you need to appreciate it was the fuckwit Newcsatle fans inability to grasp reality that got them in the ginormous clusterfuck they were in. If you remember it started with them demonstrating against Pardew. Now I don't think Pardew is a fucking genius but he was doing an OK job for a club that now has to be run as a sustainable business, they were making shrewd purchases, he was getting performances out of them and they were making big profits and trying to repeat the process, the model for any sustainable club, including the likes of Porto, Ajax, most of Germany and France. Unfortunately he was so convinced of the ****y nature of the idiots that support that club who singularly failed to grasp that it is no longer 1995 and their owner was already a couple of hundred million in debt to the club, that he jumped ship for a relegation team with about a fifth of the budget just to get away from the fucktards. Who then got what they wanted, one of their own, with a similar IQ, and nearly took them down, which would have been exactly what they deserve.




How about the guys on the other end need to man the fuck up and realise this is a trading game. Levy never puts a gun to their head, they never have to sell fuck all to him. And if they do feel they've been bullied they don't have to like it but how about they don't have to blubb to the media about it. Because chances are they are just as likely to need Levy's business in the future as he is theirs. And I said exactly the same when Levy grumbled about ManU tapping up Berbatov.

Everyone is saying Levy tried to bully Peace but Peace was also trying to bully Levy into paying over the odds. His player is going to have one year left on his contract this time next year, unless he becomes Aguero this season his (over) value is going to drop considerably. If Peace ends up taking 12m for him who's the idiot ?

We play a one striker system. As do ManU. They sold (or gave back) three CF's this summer and have bought a teenage wide forward. Arsenal have the same, one true striker, two/three wide forwards. We already have a couple of wide forwards and We've bought two, one who's experienced in one of Europe's strongest leagues. This is the logical way to operate, especially as we don't even have those two clubs budget. One main striker, three or four versatile forwards who can contribute to the team in other areas and back up the striker. Like Chelsea did with Costa and Remy (who spent a lot of his time in France as a wide forward in 4231/433)

It would have been idiotic to pay 25m for a player to sit on our bench when we have easily enough options to at least cover us until January.

And with regards to your post yesterday about the middle teams all strengthening, I agree they have, but it was a disingenuous thing to say as you know it is much easier for them to strengthen than it is for the likes of us and Liverpool. We are operating in much more marginal markets, players that strengthen clubs like us are those close enough to be top class to improve us but not quite there enough for those bigger fish to snap them up, and fuck knows, everything that kicks a ball straight aged 18 is now getting snapped up.

I can't think of too many of these ready fit, top class, guarantee to improve our first team players that either didn't get snapped up by bigger fish, were priced out of our range or were not for sale. I would liked players like Kramer or Embolo but even they were young potential, not sure fire off the peg, fully formed top class.


To All the B(itching)W(hiners)ofD(aniel)L(evy)

Do I blame Levy for not getting bullied into massively over paying for Defoe mark 2, hell fucking no, in fact I'll put my money where my mouth is and chuck in the £25 promised if he didn't. I'll also add £5 for offloading the insipid gangsta ant and generally LEARNING LESSONS FROM PREVIOUS WINDOWS like not wasting money on decent but limited, ordinary, ho fucking hum footballers who we have paid millions to sit in the stands most of the last two years.

We hired a coach with a philosophy that includes energy & tempo, we have an academy that has been teaching that from 15yo up. No more fucking Dempsey's, Chiriches's, Stambouli's, Davies's.

We may go through some more transition, but if we struggle and finish lower than eighth but get these kids moving in a year or two we'll have our own Sterling's and Martial's. If we finish lower than eighth and Levy sticks by Pochettino and preservers with and supports the philosophy, I'll chip another £50 in to SC, by way of putting my money where my mouth is.

Levy fucks up. Not supporting AVB through a difficult time.The Berbatov summer. And the BWofDL no doubt have databases bigger than dating Agency's for married men of his misdemeanours, but this blubbing about every transfer window is pathetic. "I would actually have settled for Austin". Fuck me. How about thinking further than next fucking saturday's result ?

We've finished 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th. Anyone would think Levy had taken over the Champions and got them relegated, instead we are the most consistent and highest achieving self sustaining club in this league over the last few years. We don't do that by vastly over paying for mediocrity too often.

I literally cannot believe that's how 'ginormous' is spelt. I'm all the better for transfer deadline day after all. Thanks BC!

 

[Achap]

Are you capable of grasping the concept of a development academy ? The same people saying give Veljkovic a chance instead of buying a fucking massively overpriced decent but ordinary alternative are possibly the same who have seen the results of giving Kane a chance, or Bentaleb or Mason - you know those players that went toe to toe with the likes of McCarthy & Wanyama and came out best.

You realise that two of the biggest purchases made this summer were players under 21. Sterling (50m) and Martial (36m). How the fuck do you think that happened ? think about it….I'll save us both a a couple of hours, they got played by their clubs as teenagers. As did a couple of the players we have bought. Could their be something in this philosophy ? Especially if you have hired a manager based on his supposed coaching ability, not his ability to wheel and deal in football's middle market.



Days like this you need to appreciate it was the fuckwit Newcsatle fans inability to grasp reality that got them in the ginormous clusterfuck they were in. If you remember it started with them demonstrating against Pardew. Now I don't think Pardew is a fucking genius but he was doing an OK job for a club that now has to be run as a sustainable business, they were making shrewd purchases, he was getting performances out of them and they were making big profits and trying to repeat the process, the model for any sustainable club, including the likes of Porto, Ajax, most of Germany and France. Unfortunately he was so convinced of the ****y nature of the idiots that support that club who singularly failed to grasp that it is no longer 1995 and their owner was already a couple of hundred million in debt to the club, that he jumped ship for a relegation team with about a fifth of the budget just to get away from the fucktards. Who then got what they wanted, one of their own, with a similar IQ, and nearly took them down, which would have been exactly what they deserve.




How about the guys on the other end need to man the fuck up and realise this is a trading game. Levy never puts a gun to their head, they never have to sell fuck all to him. And if they do feel they've been bullied they don't have to like it but how about they don't have to blubb to the media about it. Because chances are they are just as likely to need Levy's business in the future as he is theirs. And I said exactly the same when Levy grumbled about ManU tapping up Berbatov.

Everyone is saying Levy tried to bully Peace but Peace was also trying to bully Levy into paying over the odds. His player is going to have one year left on his contract this time next year, unless he becomes Aguero this season his (over) value is going to drop considerably. If Peace ends up taking 12m for him who's the idiot ?

We play a one striker system. As do ManU. They sold (or gave back) three CF's this summer and have bought a teenage wide forward. Arsenal have the same, one true striker, two/three wide forwards. We already have a couple of wide forwards and We've bought two, one who's experienced in one of Europe's strongest leagues. This is the logical way to operate, especially as we don't even have those two clubs budget. One main striker, three or four versatile forwards who can contribute to the team in other areas and back up the striker. Like Chelsea did with Costa and Remy (who spent a lot of his time in France as a wide forward in 4231/433)

It would have been idiotic to pay 25m for a player to sit on our bench when we have easily enough options to at least cover us until January.

And with regards to your post yesterday about the middle teams all strengthening, I agree they have, but it was a disingenuous thing to say as you know it is much easier for them to strengthen than it is for the likes of us and Liverpool. We are operating in much more marginal markets, players that strengthen clubs like us are those close enough to be top class to improve us but not quite there enough for those bigger fish to snap them up, and fuck knows, everything that kicks a ball straight aged 18 is now getting snapped up.

I can't think of too many of these ready fit, top class, guarantee to improve our first team players that either didn't get snapped up by bigger fish, were priced out of our range or were not for sale. I would liked players like Kramer or Embolo but even they were young potential, not sure fire off the peg, fully formed top class.


To All the B(itching)W(hiners)ofD(aniel)L(evy)

Do I blame Levy for not getting bullied into massively over paying for Defoe mark 2, hell fucking no, in fact I'll put my money where my mouth is and chuck in the £25 promised if he didn't. I'll also add £5 for offloading the insipid gangsta ant and generally LEARNING LESSONS FROM PREVIOUS WINDOWS like not wasting money on decent but limited, ordinary, ho fucking hum footballers who we have paid millions to sit in the stands most of the last two years.

We hired a coach with a philosophy that includes energy & tempo, we have an academy that has been teaching that from 15yo up. No more fucking Dempsey's, Chiriches's, Stambouli's, Davies's.

We may go through some more transition, but if we struggle and finish lower than eighth but get these kids moving in a year or two we'll have our own Sterling's and Martial's. If we finish lower than eighth and Levy sticks by Pochettino and preservers with and supports the philosophy, I'll chip another £50 in to SC, by way of putting my money where my mouth is.

Levy fucks up. Not supporting AVB through a difficult time.The Berbatov summer. And the BWofDL no doubt have databases bigger than dating Agency's for married men of his misdemeanours, but this blubbing about every transfer window is pathetic. "I would actually have settled for Austin". Fuck me. How about thinking further than next fucking saturday's result ?

We've finished 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th. Anyone would think Levy had taken over the Champions and got them relegated, instead we are the most consistent and highest achieving self sustaining club in this league over the last few years. We don't do that by vastly over paying for mediocrity too often.

Fantastic post! It should be stickied - but no chance on this Forum.

BWoDL - I like that.

 

[mckenz]

Well that be that then.

Cheers A&C, Stoof and crew - thanks very much guys, love the place (well, most of the time - shame about the 40 odd pages of grown men crying)


Looking forward to hopefully seeing a young squad gel and go on (eventually) to great things.




COYS

 

[Drexl]

How did you get her personal email address ?? Anyway thnx for sharing .. Seems like Media was right all along that we signed Son after knowing Berahino will not happen.

Educated guess it was not her personal one

 

[Blackcanary]

I get that other players have moved to the prem that 'might' improve our first 11. However, i have constantly seen the likes of ayew as an example. Who would rather have ayew (decent in france but not exactly immense) than son (pretty decent for club and country and from a german league not too dissimilar to our own in terms of physicality)??

Its all fair and good saying so and so went to villa/swansea/whoever but it doesnt matter where they go or what they do if the manager didnt want them

The French league is actually comparable to our own in terms of physicality too.

I think the reason that a lot of people mentioned Ayew as a fantastic prospective signing was because, as well as being very financially attainable, he'd spent the previous season excelling under Bielsa in a system which has a lot of similarities to how Poch seems to want us to play. It seemed like a bit of a no-brainer. That we wouldn't want him is just...perplexing.

 

[nailsy]

Anyone else feel sorry for Berahino now? He clearly wanted to join us, but has now upset his chariman, probably most of his teammates and almost certainly the majority of WBA fans. He's probably their version of Adebayor now!

@Bus-Conductor - no need to reply to this one mate, your sympathy for him shone through in your last post .

 

[Sum Monsterism]

I'd put money on Levy now offering a pre contract with a nice sign on bonus to make sure he picks up berahino for free next summer, and also allows him the possibility to pick him up for cheap in January, like holtby,just to show up Peace.

I think, because Radio5 said earlier, that next summer Saido has one year left...

So we'll be applauding DL if he gets him to sign a pre-contract in Jan 2016 ;-)

 

[rocklink]

Educated guess it was not her personal one

lol you should have mailed to the main man Mr.Daniel Levy ..

 

[carpee]

I literally cannot believe that's how 'ginormous' is spelt. I'm all the better for transfer deadline day after all. Thanks BC!

ginormous
dʒʌɪˈnɔːməs/
adjective
BRITISHinformal

1. extremely large.
   "ginormous piles of rubbish"

 

[dricha1]

Are you capable of grasping the concept of a development academy ? The same people saying give Veljkovic a chance instead of buying a fucking massively overpriced decent but ordinary alternative are possibly the same who have seen the results of giving Kane a chance, or Bentaleb or Mason - you know those players that went toe to toe with the likes of McCarthy & Wanyama and came out best.

You realise that two of the biggest purchases made this summer were players under 21. Sterling (50m) and Martial (36m). How the fuck do you think that happened ? think about it….I'll save us both a a couple of hours, they got played by their clubs as teenagers. As did a couple of the players we have bought. Could their be something in this philosophy ? Especially if you have hired a manager based on his supposed coaching ability, not his ability to wheel and deal in football's middle market.



Days like this you need to appreciate it was the fuckwit Newcsatle fans inability to grasp reality that got them in the ginormous clusterfuck they were in. If you remember it started with them demonstrating against Pardew. Now I don't think Pardew is a fucking genius but he was doing an OK job for a club that now has to be run as a sustainable business, they were making shrewd purchases, he was getting performances out of them and they were making big profits and trying to repeat the process, the model for any sustainable club, including the likes of Porto, Ajax, most of Germany and France. Unfortunately he was so convinced of the ****y nature of the idiots that support that club who singularly failed to grasp that it is no longer 1995 and their owner was already a couple of hundred million in debt to the club, that he jumped ship for a relegation team with about a fifth of the budget just to get away from the fucktards. Who then got what they wanted, one of their own, with a similar IQ, and nearly took them down, which would have been exactly what they deserve.




How about the guys on the other end need to man the fuck up and realise this is a trading game. Levy never puts a gun to their head, they never have to sell fuck all to him. And if they do feel they've been bullied they don't have to like it but how about they don't have to blubb to the media about it. Because chances are they are just as likely to need Levy's business in the future as he is theirs. And I said exactly the same when Levy grumbled about ManU tapping up Berbatov.

Everyone is saying Levy tried to bully Peace but Peace was also trying to bully Levy into paying over the odds. His player is going to have one year left on his contract this time next year, unless he becomes Aguero this season his (over) value is going to drop considerably. If Peace ends up taking 12m for him who's the idiot ?

We play a one striker system. As do ManU. They sold (or gave back) three CF's this summer and have bought a teenage wide forward. Arsenal have the same, one true striker, two/three wide forwards. We already have a couple of wide forwards and We've bought two, one who's experienced in one of Europe's strongest leagues. This is the logical way to operate, especially as we don't even have those two clubs budget. One main striker, three or four versatile forwards who can contribute to the team in other areas and back up the striker. Like Chelsea did with Costa and Remy (who spent a lot of his time in France as a wide forward in 4231/433)

It would have been idiotic to pay 25m for a player to sit on our bench when we have easily enough options to at least cover us until January.

And with regards to your post yesterday about the middle teams all strengthening, I agree they have, but it was a disingenuous thing to say as you know it is much easier for them to strengthen than it is for the likes of us and Liverpool. We are operating in much more marginal markets, players that strengthen clubs like us are those close enough to be top class to improve us but not quite there enough for those bigger fish to snap them up, and fuck knows, everything that kicks a ball straight aged 18 is now getting snapped up.

I can't think of too many of these ready fit, top class, guarantee to improve our first team players that either didn't get snapped up by bigger fish, were priced out of our range or were not for sale. I would liked players like Kramer or Embolo but even they were young potential, not sure fire off the peg, fully formed top class.


To All the B(itching)W(hiners)ofD(aniel)L(evy)

Do I blame Levy for not getting bullied into massively over paying for Defoe mark 2, hell fucking no, in fact I'll put my money where my mouth is and chuck in the £25 promised if he didn't. I'll also add £5 for offloading the insipid gangsta ant and generally LEARNING LESSONS FROM PREVIOUS WINDOWS like not wasting money on decent but limited, ordinary, ho fucking hum footballers who we have paid millions to sit in the stands most of the last two years.

We hired a coach with a philosophy that includes energy & tempo, we have an academy that has been teaching that from 15yo up. No more fucking Dempsey's, Chiriches's, Stambouli's, Davies's.

We may go through some more transition, but if we struggle and finish lower than eighth but get these kids moving in a year or two we'll have our own Sterling's and Martial's. If we finish lower than eighth and Levy sticks by Pochettino and preservers with and supports the philosophy, I'll chip another £50 in to SC, by way of putting my money where my mouth is.

Levy fucks up. Not supporting AVB through a difficult time.The Berbatov summer. And the BWofDL no doubt have databases bigger than dating Agency's for married men of his misdemeanours, but this blubbing about every transfer window is pathetic. "I would actually have settled for Austin". Fuck me. How about thinking further than next fucking saturday's result ?

We've finished 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th. Anyone would think Levy had taken over the Champions and got them relegated, instead we are the most consistent and highest achieving self sustaining club in this league over the last few years. We don't do that by vastly over paying for mediocrity too often.

POST OF THE TRANSFER WINDOW

Take a bow

 

[TimmyShee]

Are you capable of grasping the concept of a development academy ? The same people saying give Veljkovic a chance instead of buying a fucking massively overpriced decent but ordinary alternative are possibly the same who have seen the results of giving Kane a chance, or Bentaleb or Mason - you know those players that went toe to toe with the likes of McCarthy & Wanyama and came out best.

You realise that two of the biggest purchases made this summer were players under 21. Sterling (50m) and Martial (36m). How the fuck do you think that happened ? think about it….I'll save us both a a couple of hours, they got played by their clubs as teenagers. As did a couple of the players we have bought. Could their be something in this philosophy ? Especially if you have hired a manager based on his supposed coaching ability, not his ability to wheel and deal in football's middle market.



Days like this you need to appreciate it was the fuckwit Newcsatle fans inability to grasp reality that got them in the ginormous clusterfuck they were in. If you remember it started with them demonstrating against Pardew. Now I don't think Pardew is a fucking genius but he was doing an OK job for a club that now has to be run as a sustainable business, they were making shrewd purchases, he was getting performances out of them and they were making big profits and trying to repeat the process, the model for any sustainable club, including the likes of Porto, Ajax, most of Germany and France. Unfortunately he was so convinced of the ****y nature of the idiots that support that club who singularly failed to grasp that it is no longer 1995 and their owner was already a couple of hundred million in debt to the club, that he jumped ship for a relegation team with about a fifth of the budget just to get away from the fucktards. Who then got what they wanted, one of their own, with a similar IQ, and nearly took them down, which would have been exactly what they deserve.




How about the guys on the other end need to man the fuck up and realise this is a trading game. Levy never puts a gun to their head, they never have to sell fuck all to him. And if they do feel they've been bullied they don't have to like it but how about they don't have to blubb to the media about it. Because chances are they are just as likely to need Levy's business in the future as he is theirs. And I said exactly the same when Levy grumbled about ManU tapping up Berbatov.

Everyone is saying Levy tried to bully Peace but Peace was also trying to bully Levy into paying over the odds. His player is going to have one year left on his contract this time next year, unless he becomes Aguero this season his (over) value is going to drop considerably. If Peace ends up taking 12m for him who's the idiot ?

We play a one striker system. As do ManU. They sold (or gave back) three CF's this summer and have bought a teenage wide forward. Arsenal have the same, one true striker, two/three wide forwards. We already have a couple of wide forwards and We've bought two, one who's experienced in one of Europe's strongest leagues. This is the logical way to operate, especially as we don't even have those two clubs budget. One main striker, three or four versatile forwards who can contribute to the team in other areas and back up the striker. Like Chelsea did with Costa and Remy (who spent a lot of his time in France as a wide forward in 4231/433)

It would have been idiotic to pay 25m for a player to sit on our bench when we have easily enough options to at least cover us until January.

And with regards to your post yesterday about the middle teams all strengthening, I agree they have, but it was a disingenuous thing to say as you know it is much easier for them to strengthen than it is for the likes of us and Liverpool. We are operating in much more marginal markets, players that strengthen clubs like us are those close enough to be top class to improve us but not quite there enough for those bigger fish to snap them up, and fuck knows, everything that kicks a ball straight aged 18 is now getting snapped up.

I can't think of too many of these ready fit, top class, guarantee to improve our first team players that either didn't get snapped up by bigger fish, were priced out of our range or were not for sale. I would liked players like Kramer or Embolo but even they were young potential, not sure fire off the peg, fully formed top class.


To All the B(itching)W(hiners)ofD(aniel)L(evy)

Do I blame Levy for not getting bullied into massively over paying for Defoe mark 2, hell fucking no, in fact I'll put my money where my mouth is and chuck in the £25 promised if he didn't. I'll also add £5 for offloading the insipid gangsta ant and generally LEARNING LESSONS FROM PREVIOUS WINDOWS like not wasting money on decent but limited, ordinary, ho fucking hum footballers who we have paid millions to sit in the stands most of the last two years.

We hired a coach with a philosophy that includes energy & tempo, we have an academy that has been teaching that from 15yo up. No more fucking Dempsey's, Chiriches's, Stambouli's, Davies's.

We may go through some more transition, but if we struggle and finish lower than eighth but get these kids moving in a year or two we'll have our own Sterling's and Martial's. If we finish lower than eighth and Levy sticks by Pochettino and preservers with and supports the philosophy, I'll chip another £50 in to SC, by way of putting my money where my mouth is.

Levy fucks up. Not supporting AVB through a difficult time.The Berbatov summer. And the BWofDL no doubt have databases bigger than dating Agency's for married men of his misdemeanours, but this blubbing about every transfer window is pathetic. "I would actually have settled for Austin". Fuck me. How about thinking further than next fucking saturday's result ?

We've finished 4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th. Anyone would think Levy had taken over the Champions and got them relegated, instead we are the most consistent and highest achieving self sustaining club in this league over the last few years. We don't do that by vastly over paying for mediocrity too often.

Absolutely brilliant, well thought and delivered post, probably best I've read in my many years on here. Only issue I have is Harry can't be asked to play 50+ games, so Chadli or Son will have to play in an unnatural position, surely you can't be OK with this? Arsenal have Welbeck, Chelsea Falcon, Manu Wilson,Rooney, our back up plan is so unnatural.

 

[yankspurs]

Couple of people asked about what was said in the email, it was hardly Watergate stuff but some food for thought regarding today


Hi Chris

Harry will be supported by Sonny (whom we bought once we knew WBA were unlikely to sell) and Clinton - also I know Mauricio feels he has good attacking players across the squad. Perhaps best judged as the season progresses ? Apologies for brief response but didn't want to leave your email unanswered - regards Donna

Sent from my iPhone

My rebuttal:

So it's confirmed, then. Son, a winger, was signed as a backup striker. Brilliant! Mauricio feels good about the attacking players? Well he should! He only has 6-8 AM's. Problem is, he also only has 1 striker. Count 'em up. 1. His backup striker? A winger that was only signed so you can enjoy trips to Asia and so Daniel can make a pre season tour hitting up China and South Korea. We all know AIA wanted us to get an asian player. So we found one who brings commercial benefits from LG as well. At least he's a good player though, if he plays in his rightful position at wide forward, key word there is WIDE. So he's not solely a marketing signing like we've had in the past(Khumalo and Yedlin spring immediately to mind).

By the way, your little marketing experiment with the Yedlin signing is backfiring because he hasnt played for us and alot of US MLS fanboys are furious over it killing us and also Klinsmann, FYI. Better hope he does well at Sunderland and that Poch actually gives him an opportunity next year. Actually scratch that. I shouldnt say Poch because anyone with a brain knows that it is highly unlikely he'll be here next season. Why? We have all seen this clusterfuck of a movie before. Manager doesnt get backed, fans get pissed, turn on him, he gets sacked or he walks. Levy and the board come out unscathed.

So we'll be right back to square 1 next summer but we'll lose Lloris, Vertonghen and probably Kane and Eriksen. Then we'll replace them with another magnificent 7 or 8 having no net spend yet again and struggle again. Problem is, we wont be top 8 because the PL is more even then ever thanks to the TV deal. The clubs below us are spending as are the clubs above us. And they are bringing quality players into the league with it massively improving their sides but you, the board, are so risk averse and so petrified of spending more than you bring in in the transfer window that the product on the pitch suffers. Remember that "The stadium plans wont effect the quality on the pitch" line? Bet you wish you guys can take that back now.

However, at least we can all feed good about the academy and the beautiful stadium plans. So that's something.

/rant

Phew. Thats off my chest. I'll be back in an hour or 2. Gotta take a bit to cool off after that.

My £30 for Lloris staying is on it's way into the pot. Thanks for providing us with this great forum and great thread, @Rob and @Archibald&Crooks. Special thanks to the ITK's. Not their fault at all. Only relay what they hear. Cant do much about it when it doesnt come off but they always take some heat over it, unfortunately.

 

[bigfrooj]

Fuck it, when's the next match? COYS!

 

[THFCSPURS19]

As it should.

Mr THFC "I would have settled for Austin" SPURS19. pffttt...

That was more of a reactionary comment to the disappointment I felt. Throughout the whole window I've been strongly against the signing (and still am).

 

[KaribYid]

Besides Levy fucking up, how is it that a player who we were told wasn't on our list/way down the list became our only option????

 

[RamonVega'sShinners]

So much of this is knee jerk. Appalling window etc. it's not we've signed some real quality and some exciting potential. Why I am so upset is twofold really. Firstly because it was nearly sooooo good two signings away. A quality cm and a backup to Kane, that's all, one could've been a loan.

The fact that the list for a cm has been so extensive and ITK confirmed we were interested in about 8 so it was clearly identified as a key area so how the fuck have we ended up with no one? Unrealistic targets? Don't give me all this deals are complicated bollocks. Yeah they are but West Ham signed 4 players today all who can do a job for them. 4. Yet we can't sign one fucking midfielder from a list of ten?Austin as a sub, cup striker would have done, 18 pl goals last season anyone who wouldn't take him for 12 mil is clueless. Just because he doesn't have a foreign sounding name. So annoyed because nearly so good, great signings and shifted a lot of deadwood. So frustrating.

 

[ohwhenthespurs]

I'm very pleased with the acquisition of Son Heung-Min. And N'Jie seems just what we need out wide. I'm also pleased (in a way) of our earlier interest in Martial. Man Utd have just stumped up a gazillion amount of money for him but that now makes me wonder if Levy could have had him for a lot less if he hadn't been on his habitual hunt for a bargain basement deal.

So, as usual, much was 'promised' but little delivered.

I feel for Pochettino as maybe the wool has been pulled over his eyes regarding transfers. A little like AVB...

The word was that Pochettino vetoed the move of Lamela to Marseille. Could he have got a sense at that time that incomings in the last few days would be zero?

We were told that we could expect a striker, a centre midfielder and a young prospect in the last few days. None of this came about. Was this PR stuff to keep the fans on their toes or what?

Levy has a habit of failing in these deadline day deals. Perhaps this is a deliberate strategy? He could say (through the PR machine) that we tried but just couldn't get the deal done. But maybe the reason the deal couldn't be done is that his offer was way below the player's value.

A real disappointing day for me. And it sounds like the same for most Spurs' fans.

Too bad.

I wonder whether 'lessons have been learned' will be spouted at the next window. I also wonder whether Spurs fans in this forum will have learned their lessons and not believe the perpetual crap that's been spouted through the Club's PR gang.

Bang on.

 

[TorontoYid]

No we didnt though did we?? We got rid of a lot of players, taking up a lot of the wage budget who had limited to no impact last season and added a number of players who strengthened the team/squad.
Im looking forward to the season and wierdly the europa to see how some of the fringe players do

We were weak up front before the transfer window and now we are in even worse shape with one striker who has yet to find the net in the first 4 games despite a great season last year. If he gets injured we have NO forwards. We didn't address the DM role we also need so not seeing how we have actually strengthened the squad. We didn't even get rid of Ade. If the start of this season is an indication, we are in BIG trouble and will throw away a lot of points before the January window opens followed by a lot of catch-up if we make the signings we need.
Given that In January, all the prices are inflated, I'd be surprised if we buy anyone even then. This is NOT going to be a pretty season and I am sure Poch mist be pretty upset.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

My rebuttal:

So it's confirmed, then. Son, a winger, was signed as a backup striker. Brilliant! Mauricio feels good about the attacking players? Well he should! He only has 6-8 AM's. Problem is, he also only has 1 striker. Count 'em up. 1. His backup striker? A winger that was only signed so you can enjoy trips to Asia and so Daniel can make a pre season tour hitting up China and South Korea. We all know AIA wanted us to get an asian player. So we found one who brings commercial benefits from LG as well. At least he's a good player though, if he plays in his rightful position at wide forward, key word there is WIDE. So he's not solely a marketing signing like we've had in the past(Khumalo and Yedlin spring immediately to mind).

By the way, your little marketing experiment with the Yedlin signing is backfiring because he hasnt played for us and alot of US MLS fanboys are furious over it killing us and also Klinsmann, FYI. Better hope he does well at Sunderland and that Poch actually gives him an opportunity next year. Actually scratch that. I shouldnt say Poch because anyone with a brain knows that it is highly unlikely he'll be here next season. Why? We have all seen this clusterfuck of a movie before. Manager doesnt get backed, fans get pissed, turn on him, he gets sacked or he walks. Levy and the board come out unscathed.

So we'll be right back to square 1 next summer but we'll lose Lloris, Vertonghen and probably Kane and Eriksen. Then we'll replace them with another magnificent 7 or 8 having no net spend yet again and struggle again. Problem is, we wont be top 8 because the PL is more even then ever thanks to the TV deal. The clubs below us are spending as are the clubs above us. And they are bringing quality players into the league with it massively improving their sides but you, the board, are so risk averse and so petrified of spending more than you bring in in the transfer window that the product on the pitch suffers. Remember that "The stadium plans wont effect the quality on the pitch" line? Bet you wish you guys can take that back now.

However, at least we can all feed good about the academy and the beautiful stadium plans. So that's something.

/rant

Phew. Thats off my chest. I'll be back in an hour or 2. Gotta take a bit to cool off after that.

My £30 for Lloris staying is on it's way into the pot. Thanks for providing us with this great forum and great thread, @Rob and @Archibald&Crooks. Special thanks to the ITK's. Not their fault at all. Only relay what they hear. Cant do much about it when it doesnt come off but they always take some heat over it, unfortunately.

oh Yankspurs - that's not even half BC's word count. I'm not even gonna read that.

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