The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 18th July

[Russ1201]

I disagreed as I believe the money will be reinvested. We may not spend more but I think that what we get in will go out. Secondly, I disagreed as you started to go on about Levy, and this is not the thread for it. Once someone starts about Levy, others follow and this is the last thread that we want shut down today and over the next couple of days.

Yes sorry apologies didn't realise it was posted on the ITK page i will remove.

 

[Russ1201]

TBF even I wouldn't lock this right now. But if people want to take the piss, they'll lose their access faster than Levy jumping into a swimming pool filled with £50 notes.

I apologise didn't realise i posted that on the ITK page i have removed the posts.

 

[Majick]

10 years after Bale, let's see how it goes this time.

 

[mil1lion]

10 years after Bale, let's see how it goes this time.

After Berbatov came the Redknapp era, after Bale came the Poch era, hopefully after Kane its the Ange era and the long term improvement we had previously

 

[biscuit]

I love this place, and the people who post here. A day like today was always going to be a difficult one to navigate, as will those that follow - if/when Harry finally makes the move. What I'd say is this. No one knows whether we'll regret this for decades, nor whether it'll FINALLY allow for a full-on 'painful rebuild' with no gaps in a first eleven and provision of a better squad. We also don't know if it will ignite a fire in a few of those current players who might now come to the fore.

What we have to do in the next weeks and months is to be patient and respectful of one another. Some people understandably feel devastated/cheated/gutted, others that this might just be the reset we need. I listened to a podcast recently where it was said that Nuno (yeah, I know) had mentioned that when HK came back into the team after a period out through injury, those around him quickly went back to deferring to him, and looking for him all the time on the pitch. I'm easily old enough to remember seeing something like this when Gazza played for us, and also Hoddle - others giving them the ball and then standing back while they 'did their magic'. And, as much as I despair at the direction of and weight given to the actual football under ENIC and Levy, in fact, being two or three players short of a fabulous team has long been the Spurs ' way; we bought Lineker only to sell Waddle, had Ginola in a midfield with Sherwood and Leonhardsen, had C**pbell and paired him with Nethercott, and numerous other examples. Apart from peak-Poch, when was the last time we had a fully-functioning and flawless squad?

My main point, though, and why I came on here to post in the first place, is that, whatever our individual thoughts, we are ALL Tottenham fans. We ALL want the best for best for this great club, and, even in seemingly the bleakest of times, we need to remember that we're all on the same side. Please be kind and considerate.

 

[srups34]

I love this place, and the people who post here. A day like today was always going to be a difficult one to navigate, as will those that follow - if/when Harry finally makes the move. What I'd say is this. No one knows whether we'll regret this for decades, nor whether it'll FINALLY allow for a full-on 'painful rebuild' with no gaps in a first eleven and provision of a better squad. We also don't know if it will ignite a fire in a few of those current players who might now come to the fore.

What we have to do in the next weeks and months is to be patient and respectful of one another. Some people understandably feel devastated/cheated/gutted, others that this might just be the reset we need. I listened to a podcast recently where it was said that Nuno (yeah, I know) had mentioned that when HK came back into the team after a period out through injury, those around him quickly went back to deferring to him, and looking for him all the time on the pitch. I'm easily old enough to remember seeing something like this when Gazza played for us, and also Hoddle - others giving them the ball and then standing back while they 'did their magic'. And, as much as I despair at the direction of and weight given to the actual football under ENIC and Levy, in fact, being two or three players short of a fabulous team has long been the Spurs ' way; we bought Lineker only to sell Waddle, had Ginola in a midfield with Sherwood and Leonhardsen, had C**pbell and paired him with Nethercott, and numerous other examples. Apart from peak-Poch, when was the last time we had a fully-functioning and flawless squad?

My main point, though, and why I came on here to post in the first place, is that, whatever our individual thoughts, we are ALL Tottenham fans. We ALL want the best for best for this great club, and, even in seemingly the bleakest of times, we need to remember that we're all on the same side. Please be kind and considerate.

Beautiful post.

 

[HobbitSpur]

I love this place, and the people who post here. A day like today was always going to be a difficult one to navigate, as will those that follow - if/when Harry finally makes the move. What I'd say is this. No one knows whether we'll regret this for decades, nor whether it'll FINALLY allow for a full-on 'painful rebuild' with no gaps in a first eleven and provision of a better squad. We also don't know if it will ignite a fire in a few of those current players who might now come to the fore.

What we have to do in the next weeks and months is to be patient and respectful of one another. Some people understandably feel devastated/cheated/gutted, others that this might just be the reset we need. I listened to a podcast recently where it was said that Nuno (yeah, I know) had mentioned that when HK came back into the team after a period out through injury, those around him quickly went back to deferring to him, and looking for him all the time on the pitch. I'm easily old enough to remember seeing something like this when Gazza played for us, and also Hoddle - others giving them the ball and then standing back while they 'did their magic'. And, as much as I despair at the direction of and weight given to the actual football under ENIC and Levy, in fact, being two or three players short of a fabulous team has long been the Spurs ' way; we bought Lineker only to sell Waddle, had Ginola in a midfield with Sherwood and Leonhardsen, had C**pbell and paired him with Nethercott, and numerous other examples. Apart from peak-Poch, when was the last time we had a fully-functioning and flawless squad?

My main point, though, and why I came on here to post in the first place, is that, whatever our individual thoughts, we are ALL Tottenham fans. We ALL want the best for best for this great club, and, even in seemingly the bleakest of times, we need to remember that we're all on the same side. Please be kind and considerate.

Great post. We all have opinions, and opinions are not facts so they differ.

Forums like this survive on open debate. Some views we agree with some we don’t.

Only facts hold water. Let’s continue to debate, and let’s enjoy others POV, after all as @biscuit says we are all on here for one common denominator. We F***ing love Spurs.

 

[dovahkiin]

Trying

silva

 

[GetSpurredOn]

After Berbatov came the Redknapp era, after Bale came the Poch era, hopefully after Kane its the Ange era and the long term improvement we had previously

This is where I am at. We’ve seen the best days of Kane (he still has some good years, I don’t mean he’s finished), but this feels like it bookmarks a full reboot now. Ange having a clean slate to build the team how he wants. Whilst it’s never great to see a World Class player leave, the chance to step back and level up the squad as whole can’t be altogether bad. If we aren’t able to rely on Kane to dig us out of a hole all the time, maybe now others really will step up to the plate and grow in his absence.
Seems our initial emphasis will be to bolster the defence, which is much needed, then add potential up front, because even without Kane, I don’t fear us struggling to score goals.

It’s a new dawn, we should embrace it, not be disconsolate about the past. Ange’s tactics seem to rely on the team as a whole fulfilling roles, not moments of individual brilliance. It’ll all come good.

 

[McArchibald]

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It’s a new dawn, we should embrace it, not be disconsolate about the past. Ange’s tactics seem to rely on the team as a whole fulfilling roles, not moments of individual brilliance. It’ll all come good.

I can appreciate the sentiment, but it would constitute a get-out-of-jail card for our despicable chairman, who managed to drive a one-club legend out of our club.
To me it's not a new dawn but an abandonment of ambition and aspiration. With this turn of events we've resigned from the Premier League elite and joined the ranks of the hopefuls underneath, waiting for scraps to fall from the big boys table.
Time will tell but I fear this new dawn is very likely to be a false dawn.

 

[WiganSpur]

Yes we do, it's a club outside the Premier League then it is not dreadful. Kane cannot directly harm Spurs if he is 700 miles away and in a farmers league.

Whether Spurs shit the bed with how they use the transfer fee is a different matter entirely.

Really hope he signs a 5 year deal as that's going to make it extremely difficult for English clubs to attract him back. Providing he continues as normal in the Bundesliga, at 32 Bayern would still want £60m plus imo.

 

[muffwah]

Really hope he signs a 5 year deal as that's going to make it extremely difficult for English clubs to attract him back. Providing he continues as normal in the Bundesliga, at 32 Bayern would still want £60m plus imo.

prob something with a year or two as an option for the club

 

[SpartanSpur]

Interesting that it's now with the 'Kane camp'. Does this mean he might change his mind?

 

[Haddock]

Interesting that it's now with the 'Kane camp'. Does this mean he might change his mind?

I doubt Bayern went to all this trouble without sounding out Harry’s camp.

But we’re dealing with Charlie Kane here so who the f*ck knows.

 

[Tractorspur]

Interesting that it's now with the 'Kane camp'. Does this mean he might change his mind?

Where are you seeing this?

 

[Norn_Iron]

I doubt Bayern went to all this trouble without sounding out Harry’s camp.

But we’re dealing with Charlie Kane here so who the f*ck knows.

True, but I'd hope we would at least make one last mega contract offer to him.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

True, but I'd hope we would at least make one last mega contract offer to him.

Its not money that he wants...

 

[luRRka]

Where are you seeing this?

The goat, update 32

 

[jurgen]

Based on that Charlie's still got to navigate the Fill & Sign function in Acrobat so this is far from a done deal

 

[muffwah]

I can appreciate the sentiment, but it would constitute a get-out-of-jail card for our despicable chairman, who managed to drive a one-club legend out of our club.
To me it's not a new dawn but an abandonment of ambition and aspiration. With this turn of events we've resigned from the Premier League elite and joined the ranks of the hopefuls underneath, waiting for scraps to fall from the big boys table.
Time will tell but I fear this new dawn is very likely to be a false dawn.

I would love to live in your reality, but I just can’t afford the air fare.