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If you genuinely believe that Rossie would've usuerped any of Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez (at the time that Rossi was there) or Chicharito now then yes.
And if it goes well it's down to who? Because I see very few people giving Harry any credit for Sandro...
Last season Harry improved the squad with Gallas (Prem proven, experience, quality), van der Vaart (top of his game, experience) and Sandro (upcoming youngster). He did it last year, why all the worry?
He doesn't just talk about signing experienced players, but because it frustrates you it's making a bigger impact when you read it. He's said he likes other players, and when has he ever just signed old experienced players? He certainly hasn't done that with us.
I don't think Neville is better than what we have, so I wouldn't sign him. I think Ferdinand is, so maybe would depending on fitness. If a 30 year old is a better player than what we've currently got and can do a job why not? It doesn't mean we'll sell everybody else though. You're being ridiculous.
If you genuinely believe that Rossie would've usuerped any of Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez (at the time that Rossi was there) or Chicharito now then yes.
When I have ever say I had a problem with it? And it was always clear that Sherwood worked with the academy.
However if Redknapp delegates buying youngsters to Sherwood and Sherwood effs-up then it is still Redknapp's responsibility.
Why would Harry get any credit for Sandro? He didn't unearth him, Broomfield did. Harry said he never even watched him. Levy pushed so, so hard to make the transfer work including the tie-in with internacional. Harry joked that if Sandro was a failure Broomfield's head will roll and while it was a joke the implication was there. Harry was trying to distance himself from the transfer.
When I have ever say I had a problem with it? And it was always clear that Sherwood worked with the academy.
However if Redknapp delegates buying youngsters to Sherwood and Sherwood effs-up then it is still Redknapp's responsibility.
Gallas has come and been excellent. I've never said otherwise although he has struggled for fitness generally. Perez contacted Levy (as they apparently have genial relations) regarding VdV as quick sale to boost income. It wasn't like the player was ruthless persued by Harry. Levy rung Harry and asked if he wanted the player. Harry said any manager would, checked it with Bond and said to go ahead with it. Sandro was Broomfield's baby.
I didn't disagree when he brought in Gallas as he was an excellent stand-in for King/Woodgate. However it seems like Harry is trying to re-wire almost the entire team with geriatrics and cripples. Neville just isn't needed. Ditto Parker. Ditto Bellamy.
punky said:It's not so much the players that he has signed but the players he has tried Neville/Parker/Bellamy.
punky said:And if he isn't just talking about signing experienced players then why is that the only quotes floating about? Surely you could find some ones.
punky said:Ferdinand is an excellent defender but I don't think he's a great fit for us. There is a difference. Harry's not playing Championship Manager where he picks players from a list with numbers next to their name.
I never said we would sell everyone else, you're putting words in my mouth. THAT is ridiculous.
Palacios and Diarra immediately come to mind there.Rule of thumb, if a player is rejected by Fergie or Wenger, don't sign them.
Palacios and Diarra immediately come to mind there.
Ferguson rarely gets it wrong though, I agree.
Redknapp in France....
Anyone know which game he's at?
Here, you've said that it's Harry's fault if whoever is buying the youngsters messes up.
I'll go with that, if he gets the credit if it goes well too. It's not fair to have it both ways.
I've said it numerous times on here, but we did go for VDV at the beginning of the window but baulked at the huge fee that Real were asking for. Window comes to a close, Mourinho's made it it clear Rafa isn't in his plans, and we get a call. VDV was identified by Harry, Levy closed the deal out.
As for the other players, Parker is an upgrade on Palacios and Jenas, shipping those two out for Parker is a good move, improves the squad a lot.
He's said he likes Hazard, he's been traipsing around Europe watching players. Yes he's said there are players over here that he'd like but buying experience isn't exactly a bad thing or always a bad thing. I can't be bothered to search out quotes, but I've read plenty of articles about where Harry is or he is watching to know that he's not just after these prem proven golden oldies.
I think both you and Brett, though mainly Brett have said that buying some older experienced players would mean that we'd lose our young players. I don't agree.
hazard reminds me of a nasri, poss future modric replacement?, gervinho looks a frustrating player, do something great then tread on the ball, u reckon we might go in for these two then ryan?
Harry is making a consious effort to make himself known to the players clearly. Its a tactic that worked with Berbatov, we watched him for a long time.
Harry also touched on the fact that we might have to move early in the window for 2 players.
interesting, cheers....these 2 would also fit a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 system as well if thats where we wanted to go, with a more fluid system next season, just need the one to play the front man
hazard reminds me of a nasri, poss future modric replacement?, gervinho looks a frustrating player, do something great then tread on the ball, u reckon we might go in for these two then ryan?
I don't think they're anything alike tbh, apart from all being small :shrug:
I don't think they're anything alike tbh, apart from all being small :shrug: