Spurs and VAR

[fortworthspur]

get rid. decisions arent any less contentious.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

VAR is not the problem, its the inept people using it , really inept too, bordering on biased

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I think what will make it even worse is that when I get back in the stadium the twats who moan for 90 minutes every game haven’t moved seats. If they haven’t I might cry.

There’s an old boy in front of me, shows up in sandals regardless of weather as I think he has some kind of foot problem, constantly running up and down (think to the loo) and back so I suspect he might be diabetic.

Anyway, all he does is mouth off all match. Gets on every players back. Insults the opposition and the refs. And worse, he’ll constantly try to get involved with other fans around him if he hears something he disagrees with.

One time I had the temerity to, quietly, criticise Sissoko to my dad, next to me. Private conversation. Next thing I know he’s turned around, eye balled me, and when I ignore him he actually starts verbally abusing me, almost squaring up to me, and as I continue to ignore him he just turns around and loudly mutters about me for about ten minutes afterwards.

I really hope he’s not there.

 

[mumfordspur]

There’s an old boy in front of me, shows up in sandals regardless of weather as I think he has some kind of foot problem, constantly running up and down (think to the loo) and back so I suspect he might be diabetic.

Anyway, all he does is mouth off all match. Gets on every players back. Insults the opposition and the refs. And worse, he’ll constantly try to get involved with other fans around him if he hears something he disagrees with.

One time I had the temerity to, quietly, criticise Sissoko to my dad, next to me. Private conversation. Next thing I know he’s turned around, eye balled me, and when I ignore him he actually starts verbally abusing me, almost squaring up to me, and as I continue to ignore him he just turns around and loudly mutters about me for about ten minutes afterwards.

I really hope he’s not there.

Chin him Gin

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Chin him Gin

Even in his old age I’m pretty sure he would make mincemeat out of me. I’m about as tough as sugar free jelly.

 

[ohtottenham!]

There’s an old boy in front of me, shows up in sandals regardless of weather as I think he has some kind of foot problem, constantly running up and down (think to the loo) and back so I suspect he might be diabetic.

Anyway, all he does is mouth off all match. Gets on every players back. Insults the opposition and the refs. And worse, he’ll constantly try to get involved with other fans around him if he hears something he disagrees with.

One time I had the temerity to, quietly, criticise Sissoko to my dad, next to me. Private conversation. Next thing I know he’s turned around, eye balled me, and when I ignore him he actually starts verbally abusing me, almost squaring up to me, and as I continue to ignore him he just turns around and loudly mutters about me for about ten minutes afterwards.

I really hope he’s not there.

Mate, that’s a violation of your own personal space and comfort as a fan who’s paid for a ticket, especially if you’re there with your dad. Classic bullying. My advice…don’t put up with it!

I’d either tell him to fuck off directly and/or let him know that he’s spoiling other folks’ enjoyment of the game. If that fails, speak to a steward. Let him know you’re doing that. The old fella’s happy no-one’s challenging him on his shit, and I bet he values his seat and won’t want to lose it.

You don’t have to be a tough guy, but don’t put up with that kind of BS from anyone!

 

[mr ashley]

There’s an old boy in front of me, shows up in sandals regardless of weather as I think he has some kind of foot problem, constantly running up and down (think to the loo) and back so I suspect he might be diabetic.

Anyway, all he does is mouth off all match. Gets on every players back. Insults the opposition and the refs. And worse, he’ll constantly try to get involved with other fans around him if he hears something he disagrees with.

One time I had the temerity to, quietly, criticise Sissoko to my dad, next to me. Private conversation. Next thing I know he’s turned around, eye balled me, and when I ignore him he actually starts verbally abusing me, almost squaring up to me, and as I continue to ignore him he just turns around and loudly mutters about me for about ten minutes afterwards.

I really hope he’s not there.

Its @Archibald&Crooks isnt it?

 

[DiamondLites]

It’s the lack of accountability for me. There has been a litany of scandalous decisions made by these faceless morons hiding away in a bunker somewhere, and not one of them has had to face any consequences of being shit at their job (as far as we know). The standard of refereeing in this country has gone down the pan, VAR is a system that should help the referees get decisions correct, but because they’re all too gutless to overrule their mates on the pitch they sit with their thumb up their arse in stockley park, wherever that is, and they all end up looking like clueless chowder heads

The on field ref should have absolutely no idea who the VAR official is to take any cronyism out of the decision making. Any blatantly wrong decisions made (the Fleck head stamp for example) the VAR official should have to explain his decision and face some kind of consequence (fine, suspension, put in public stocks). There needs to be accountability in place. And if there is, already make it public so we the fans at least know these burkes have some consequences, because as far as I can tell they’re just accepting of the fact or actually believe the correct decisions are being made. And I don’t know which is worse

 

[terryalan]

on field call was offside for Harry.

 

[mr ashley]

on field call was offside for Harry.

Yes, but it would have been overturned using any brain other than that of a PL ref in any approach described in this thread

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

on field call was offside for Harry.

He was level. End of story!

 

[Danners9]

He was level. End of story!

It surprised me that the linesman put the flag up. I really thought they were told not to because goals would be reviewed anyway. So they'd let it go, let the video decide and then we see what happens.

Instead they put the flag up really early and got the goal disallowed. It was dead level, which always meant onside.

If the flag didn't go up would it be a goal? and VAR isn't there to overrule the on-field decision. What a shambles.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It surprised me that the linesman put the flag up. I really thought they were told not to because goals would be reviewed anyway. So they'd let it go, let the video decide and then we see what happens.

Instead they put the flag up really early and got the goal disallowed. It was dead level, which always meant onside.

If the flag didn't go up would it be a goal? and VAR isn't there to overrule the on-field decision. What a shambles.

I don't watch MOTD or the studio analysis after our games. Did any of the pundits have anything to say about the decision?

I can't believe there's an ex player out there who saw anything other than Kane being dead level with the defender?

 

[al_pacino]

It surprised me that the linesman put the flag up. I really thought they were told not to because goals would be reviewed anyway. So they'd let it go, let the video decide and then we see what happens.

Instead they put the flag up really early and got the goal disallowed. It was dead level, which always meant onside.

If the flag didn't go up would it be a goal? and VAR isn't there to overrule the on-field decision. What a shambles.

It would've been ruled out either way as the var showed it as offside. There is no clear and obvious error rule for this. He was level and the linesman was definitely guessing but it didn't alter the final outcome.

 

[Danners9]

It would've been ruled out either way as the var showed it as offside. There is no clear and obvious error rule for this. He was level and the linesman was definitely guessing but it didn't alter the final outcome.

So how is level now offside when forever it was onside?

 

[al_pacino]

So how is level now offside when forever it was onside?

Quite. As you, and MotD @coopsieyid , say he was level to any normal rational human being. Unfortunately the software and people running it think he was about 1mm the wrong side of the defender and that is enough to rule the goal out.

 

[spursfan77]

Without VAR both calls would still have been the same. Linesman flagged Kane off and Rafinha on.

So we can ditch VAR, but it wouldn’t have changed either call. VAR didn’t change what was called on the field.

But that’s fine. The umpire getting it wrong, while annoying, is human error in a split second. It’s the fact someone on a screen miles away is drawing imaginary lines trying to find Kane (or another attacker in another game) offside and still getting it wrong. Either on purpose or through incompetence.

 

[Shadydan]

Quite. As you, and MotD @coopsieyid , say he was level to any normal rational human being. Unfortunately the software and people running it think he was about 1mm the wrong side of the defender and that is enough to rule the goal out.

The system is flawed because no one can see when Dele connected with the ball and frame rate doesn't normally take into account when he played the pass anyway, it's a nonsense.

 

[al_pacino]

What would be kind of interesting to see/know is if the refs do any review or training sessions of these close incidents and whether different, or even the same, refs come up with different outcomes.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

What would be kind of interesting to see/know is if the refs do any review or training sessions of these close incidents and whether different, or even the same, refs come up with different outcomes.

They surely don't?

If they did, we'd surely see a reduction in the amount of pathetically wrong calls we've seen, and that's for every club, not just Spurs. We're not the only ones who have suffered at the hands of these incompetent tossers making these borderline decisions.

I simply can't believe they review any of them.