Sofyan Amrabat

[AtoubaToothpaste]

On a 6 month loan with an option at the end of it, why not? I'd also add we'd probably have the best part of circa £300k + a week to distribute else where

The freed up wages are great for the spreadsheet, I 100% agree. Signing Ambrabat doesn't achieve that: getting the others out of the door does. My biggest issue is: if we are going for a short-term loan, is this really the best we can do? Is he really better than giving White minutes or picking up a player used to the EPL? There's a reason this guy has been horribly out of from all season, why do we think he'll find form and adapt to a foreign league all in 6 months? I find it quite surprising that of all the options in world football, this is the best one.

Any way we look at it, we are yet again on the cusp of achieving something (UCL qualifications which will enable us to shop from a wider pool of players) and on the face of it, it looks like we're Saha/Nelsoning it again. However, I truly wish to be wrong and that he comes in and gets possessed by the spirit of Dembele.

 

[djhotspur]

Conte will be playing 3-4-3 with those three gone. And the stats show that Conte's system creates chances and it's a complete myth that we haven't been creating them. All we need is someone defensively solid who isn't sideways perhaps. At Chelsea he played Matic and Kante in those roles, neither of which are assist and goal machines.

GLC, Tanguy and Dele can't play in a double pivot so you could argue Amrabat actually gives us a better balance there. Two holders, two marauding wing backs, two number tens behind Kane.

I would argue that the best chance creation games we've played have been in a 3 5 2.

 

[Spud82]

Not a fan of stats but when you know fuck all it's a good benchmark. Looking at a comparison between Skipp, Hojberg and Amrabt...Hojberg runs out winner overall. But Amrabat is not far behind...and then comes out on top in terms of chance creation, through balls, long pass %, duels contested, take on success, aerial duels and blocks. Apples for oranges in terms of the leagues they are playing in but it gives you an idea as to what we are getting...an able backup to Skipp/Hojberg that is not nDombele

 

[Trix]

The freed up wages are great for the spreadsheet, I 100% agree. Signing Ambrabat doesn't achieve that: getting the others out of the door does. My biggest issue is: if we are going for a short-term loan, is this really the best we can do? Is he really better than giving White minutes or picking up a player used to the EPL? There's a reason this guy has been horribly out of from all season, why do we think he'll find form and adapt to a foreign league all in 6 months? I find it quite surprising that of all the options in world football, this is the best one.

Any way we look at it, we are yet again on the cusp of achieving something (UCL qualifications which will enable us to shop from a wider pool of players) and on the face of it, it looks like we're Saha/Nelsoning it again. However, I truly wish to be wrong and that he comes in and gets possessed by the spirit of Dembele.

Firstly I was replying to a post that said swapping this guy for our three and that's why I brought up the saved wages.

Secondly it appears he's doing very well at the AFCON stats wise in every aspect so not out of form.

and Finally lets judge him on his own merits IF he comes and not comparing him to Saha and Nelson just because you've never heard of him.

We all have our own opinions on who we would or wouldn't sign but lets face it it's all completely irrelevant as it needs to be who Conte wants not what random forum poster wants. As long as he's getting players he feels he can work with I'm more than fine with it. If not then it's a different story.

 

[Demba]

Player for Watford.

 

[Timberwolf]

Sounds like he's not technically brilliant but is good at running with the ball and quite decent in tight spaces. Doesn't look afraid to put a foot in either.

Also apparently very good at playing long balls which is definitely one of our weaknesses in midfield so that's a plus.

Won't provide anything at all going forward, though.

 

[ajspurs]

Yeah he didn't look bad in that video at all in all fairness. Off of that (which is of course very little) he won't be taking us up a level in any way but looks like he could provide good depth or just a different option, especially if we favour 3 in the middle. With how he seems he actually looks like he could provide more use to our system than Dele, Ndombele or Lo Celso IMO so that would be a plus at least if that turns out to be the case.

Would just be really good if we can get Traore over the line too and maybe make that push for one more to really set us up better for a top 4 challenge.

 

[spursfan77]

Sounds like he's not technically brilliant but is good at running with the ball and quite decent in tight spaces. Doesn't look afraid to put a foot in either.

Also apparently very good at playing long balls which is definitely one of our weaknesses in midfield so that's a plus.

Won't provide anything at all going forward, though.

This is interesting I guess?

 

[Kuryakin]

How could I know who Conte wants? Are you telling me that Amrabat is the best possible guy that Tottenham could hope to get on loan? There are a hundred names suggested on this very thread. We're a big club who good players would want to play for.

So you could not mention one at least. January is a difficult window and Kessie won't come now, McKennie won't be let go. So who is available?

 

[Snarfalicious]

Because we are all idiots he’s probably going to be our best signing in a few years.

 

[Freddie]

Conte will be playing 3-4-3 with those three gone. And the stats show that Conte's system creates chances and it's a complete myth that we haven't been creating them. All we need is someone defensively solid who isn't sideways perhaps. At Chelsea he played Matic and Kante in those roles, neither of which are assist and goal machines.

GLC, Tanguy and Dele can't play in a double pivot so you could argue Amrabat actually gives us a better balance there. Two holders, two marauding wing backs, two number tens behind Kane.

Big factor with Chelsea was Hazard though. He was like peak Bale in that he could create his own chances and was in unstoppable form, which was coupled with a rock-solid defence. Even if this guy could help with the latter we don't have a Hazard. Kane and Son need more assistance than Lucas

 

[sundanceyid10]

I'm thinking this is a Stambouli level player.

I was thinking the same totally and utterly underwhelming. ?It’s not true otherwise nothing has changed.

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

Firstly I was replying to a post that said swapping this guy for our three and that's why I brought up the saved wages.

Secondly it appears he's doing very well at the AFCON stats wise in every aspect so not out of form.

I think his league performance or lack of it is far more analogous to how he's likely to play for us in a league, but it is encouraging to know he's actually playing some games.

and Finally lets judge him on his own merits IF he comes and not comparing him to Saha and Nelson just because you've never heard of him.

Yes, I 100% agree we should judge him on his own merits. I'm not comparing his playing skills to Saha or Nelson -- quite clearly I didn't. I'm comparing the signing of a player like him (cheap, out of favour, out of form) with those others when what we really need to push us on is someone more proven and in a position we definitely need. We already have three Amrabats at home. Can't see a fourth doing anything for us when we are desperately weak in other positions.

But to reiterate: if we sign him, I truly hope he succeeds.

 

[robertgoulet]

Sure you want to bankrupt yourself? Not that the admins will mind.

no no no...the OTHER way.

 

[Freddie]

So you could not mention one at least. January is a difficult window and Kessie won't come now, McKennie won't be let go. So who is available?

Well I haven't enquired about his availability but Renato Sanches? Yes he was shit at Swansea once but Amrabat hasn't even played this season so you know...

 

[Trix]

I think his league performance or lack of it is far more analogous to how he's likely to play for us in a league, but it is encouraging to know he's actually playing some games.

Even the best players fall out with managers. Look at how Bale was used at Madrid under Zidane. Was that due to his poor form?

 

[H-SF]

Tbf if we are taking him for 6 months without paying a fee and simply covering his likely measly wages I don't see a huge issue, provided he is a player Conte likes. We can even buy him for basically fuck all if he's somehow amazing. However, its just depressing that we are selling (albeit flops) players with very high ceilings in Ndombele and Lo Celso and replacing them with someone with quite a low one. Whatever.

 

[AtoubaToothpaste]

Even the best players fall out with managers. Look at how Bale was used at Madrid under Zidane. Was that due to his poor form?

I guess time will tell, mate. I hope you're right and this guy is top quality and just somehow found himself on the bench.

 

[Setzthree]

Could be worse. Could be Wilshere.

 

[Kuryakin]

Well I haven't enquired about his availability but Renato Sanches? Yes he was shit at Swansea once but Amrabat hasn't even played this season so you know...

Is Renato a player that Conte wants? Where can I read about that? And Amrabat has played this season lol