Sin-bin trial plan recommended for professional games

[mawspurs]

Plans for football to introduce 10-minute sin-bins for cynical fouls and dissent have been recommended for trialling in the professional game.

The game's lawmaking body, the International Football Association Board (Ifab), said it will "identify which levels are best to test".

Source: BBC

 

[Gassin's finest]

It starts...

 

[HildoSpur]

I can sort of understand the reasoning for it however it will just add a new layer of unnecessary complexity in terms of referee decisions and if anything we should be trying to ease pressure on the officials not add to it.

 

[PCozzie]

Oh God no. Another level of subjectivity?

VAR can't even call handball correctly, how are they going to discern the motive of the tackler?

"OK Darren, we've got a trip on the half-way line. Can we get a zoom in on the tacklers face.... is that a wry smile I can see? Hang on, we've got a sneaky low-five with the full-back after the incident. That's a cynical foul, confirmed. 10 minutes in the sin-bin."

 

[Gbspurs]

Especially with the recent spate of soft second yellows I really feel the best way to introduce this is to have all second yellow offences go in the sin bin. Easier to police this way and I've often felt it's harsh to be sent off for two minor offences.

 

[spanishspur]

Sounds an interesting idea, I would be concerned the team with someone in the sin bin would slow the game up and waste time.

 

[easley91]

Sounds an interesting idea, I would be concerned the team with someone in the sin bin would slow the game up and waste time.

Teams slow the game down and waste time regardless. Whether that's with 11 or 10 players. Nothing you do will stop it entirely.

 

[Trix]

It starts...

It has been in place in grass roots for years. It does work at youth level, but I doubt very much it will work with premier league primadonna players and "everyone look at me" referee's who want to be centre of attention and yet also the players friends. Add on top of that the inconsistencies with interpretations of the laws already in the game and how managers react to them, and it's just another topic point of controversary for Talksport and Sky news to bleat on about with angry phone in fans for days on end.

They need to fix what's already broken before adding more bollocks to pile they've already created

 

[Gassin's finest]

It has been in place in grass roots for years. It does work at youth level, but I doubt very much it will work with premier league pre-Madonna players and "everyone look at me" referee's who want to be centre of attention and also the players friends. Add on top of that the inconsistencies with interpretations of the laws already in the game and how managers react to them, and it's just another topic point of controversary for Talksport and Sky news to bleat on about with angry phone in fans for days on end.

They need to fix whats already broken before adding more bollocks to pile they've already created

 

[Japhet]

On the face of it, VAR was a relatively straightforward technical improvement which should have made the game fairer, but they've made such an incredible fuck up of implementing it that I don't see any hope of sin binning being a success. I lay a lot of VAR problems at the door of the micro-analyzing which goes on in TV studios to a point where players are given offside by the length of a toenail, and it takes forever to reach the decision.

 

[Mr Pink]

So Romero sits in the bin most matches....he'll need one of those recliners

 

[Jamturk]

Oh how I will look forward to all the debates about whether a player should have been sin binned or sent off....sigh.

 

[muppetman]

A good idea in theory, but a nightmare in practice. I think we need to fix what we have, before trialing new stuff.

 

[Dunc2610]

So essentially they're trying to copy rugby without considering how rugby matches are ref'd, the level of respect given to rugby ref's and the much higher quality of refereeing/TMO-ing?

 

[rossdapep]

Yeah this isn't gonna work.

I am assuming these sin bin offences don't get carried over so players are just going to take a quick hit and it'll encourage cynical fouls which can be dangerous at times.

For example, opposition have a potential counter attack and a player just blocks off or trips an on running player. Its dangerous play but will now get seen as a sin bin offence?

Teams and coaches are going to be strategic around it.

 

[fecka]

IFAB are desperate to feel relevant and keep experimenting with the laws of the game just to make it look like they are actually doing something.
This just adds more needless complexity to the game. Sigh.

 

[Moonie]

Be great fun to watch if a goalie gets sin binned!

 

[fecka]

Be great fun to watch if a goalie gets sin binned!

IIRC, when that happens in ice hockey (if goalies get a 2- or 5-minute penalty) the team picks someone else to be sin-binned and play with one less for the duration. With outfielders, it's the penalized player that's sin-binned.

 

[UncleBuck]

So essentially they're trying to copy rugby without considering how rugby matches are ref'd, the level of respect given to rugby ref's and the much higher quality of refereeing/TMO-ing?

If they had any modicum of sense that’s what they’d do, people were saying for years that football just needed to copy rugby’s approach to video technology and not try to reinvent the wheel.
I think it’d be great, as long as the on field ref is left alone to make decisions on yellows and doesn’t have interference from VAR, who should only get involved if a yellow should be upgraded to a straight red.
Do that and have VAR only looking at goal line technology and we might actually start to get a bit more enjoyment back in the game.

 

[Dunc2610]

If they had any modicum of sense that’s what they’d do, people were saying for years that football just needed to copy rugby’s approach to video technology and not try to reinvent the wheel.
I think it’d be great, as long as the on field ref is left alone to make decisions on yellows and doesn’t have interference from VAR, who should only get involved if a yellow should be upgraded to a straight red.
Do that and have VAR only looking at goal line technology and we might actually start to get a bit more enjoyment back in the game.

Problem is they're trying to copy it, but it can't be copied, the games are ref'd differently.