Sherwood was 'detrimental' to Tottenham team, says AVB

[guiltyparty]

I did read it bro. The article clearly states that his comment about Sherwood being a detrimental influence was purportedly made during his tenure, which is what I was referring to. As far as his comments on Sherwood's leadership causing splits... I think most fair minded folks here won't dispute those either. I wouldn't be surprised if players like Sandro (who he wanted for Zenit) kept him updated on a few details.

Fair is fair - the man was screwed over and Levy's bozo move to lose AVB sent us back to the stone age, making Poch's job that much harder today.

You were suggesting his comments were only about while he was there, which that comment above proves incorrect and makes your first response to me almost entirely without point as it exists only as a rebuff. But try and reshuffle what you meant now if you must

And just as Sandro keeps him informed, I'm sure Adebayor was keeping others informed on AVB. It's tittle tattle. If you have to be either Team AVB or Sherwood, I'm definitely the former, but you've got to be even handed and if you'd kick Tim for something, Andre deserves it too in this case.

The extremist nature of this managerial divide is fucking bonkers. Thou shall not accept any wrongdoing on thou false idol's part

 

[greaves]

All this is rather unedifying playground tosh. The announcement of Dennis' death puts this in context. This is Andrex territory. Please God for dignity, humility and grace under pressure.

 

[dossett]

Is the timing of this article a coincidence? It comes just a day after a vacancy appears at Palace with Tim the then favourite (now usurped by Pardew according to MOTD). Just saying...

 

[lis spur]

I prefer to live in the now, which is certainly a lot brighter!

 

[CrazyHeart]

You were suggesting his comments were only about while he was there, which that comment above proves incorrect and makes your first response to me almost entirely without point as it exists only as a rebuff. But try and reshuffle what you meant now if you must

And just as Sandro keeps him informed, I'm sure Adebayor was keeping others informed on AVB. It's tittle tattle. If you have to be either Team AVB or Sherwood, I'm definitely the former, but you've got to be even handed and if you'd kick Tim for something, Andre deserves it too in this case.

The extremist nature of this managerial divide is fucking bonkers. Thou shall not accept any wrongdoing on thou false idol's part

If parsing out what I wrote to that level of granularity makes you feel better, enabling you to say 'so there!', please be my guest - I won't quarrel over minutia.

Personal sentiments aside, I wouldn't equate Sandro to Ade by any stretch of the imagination. One was clearly out of line, breaking all protocols of conduct on multiple occasions and was disciplined accordingly. The other simply tweeted a fact and got publicly insulted by his manager as a result. I see no equivalency between Ade's actions and Sandro's.

 

[TaoistMonkey]

'(Sherwood) continued after I left and his leadership resulted in a extreme split between the players and the coach,' Villas Boas said

You beautiful bearded bastard

 

[Kendall]

Replaced you, played better football than you, got more points than you, got us scoring more goals than you with the same team you had.

Bitter.

 

[guiltyparty]

If parsing out what I wrote to that level of granularity makes you feel better, enabling you to say 'so there!', please be my guest - I won't quarrel over minutia.

Personal sentiments aside, I wouldn't equate Sandro to Ade by any stretch of the imagination. One was clearly out of line, breaking all protocols of conduct on multiple occasions and was disciplined accordingly. The other simply tweeted a fact and got publicly insulted by his manager as a result. I see no equivalency between Ade's actions and Sandro's.

I get no satisfaction in 'so there' so this is why I tend to not comment on this subject as this is always how these conversations go. People shift the sands to change what they originally said when someone calls out their original comment as wrong. Must. Stick. To. Original. Story.

Likewise you're now setting up a false equivalence between Sandro and Ade to make my comments sound silly. But I didn't say that.

Of course they're not equivalent in behaviour. I was responding to your comment that Sandro would have given AVB the skinny on Spurs after he left. If so, Ade would no doubt have been giving others the skinny on AVB. That is all.

 

[CrazyHeart]

I get no satisfaction in 'so there' so this is why I tend to not comment on this subject as this is always how these conversations go. People shift the sands to change what they originally said when someone calls out their original comment as wrong. Must. Stick. To. Original. Story.

Likewise you're now setting up a false equivalence between Sandro and Ade to make my comments sound silly. But I didn't say that.

Of course they're not equivalent in behaviour. I was responding to your comment that Sandro would have given AVB the skinny on Spurs after he left. If so, Ade would no doubt have been giving others the skinny on AVB. That is all.

For the record - I'm not trying to make your comments sound silly, this is just a discussion and a rare non-combative one at that. But thanks for your clarification. Unlike AVB, Sherwood WAS supported and he still blew it. So it doesn't matter if Ade keeps his co-conspirator in the coup apprised of what goes on under Poch's tenure. One thing's for sure, he's not a stable source of reference even today.

 

[buckley]

i just need to get this off my chest regarding the chelsea defeat
i felt that untill the sending off and the verts error i actually believed we would go on to draw and maybe win the game
the sending off and verts error changed the whole game
i was disgusted with sherwood when he said that the whole team exept a few of his favourates were gutless
i had lots of doubts on sherwood but his post match comments just comfirmed that he was an a1 prick
managers such as nicholson or burkenshaw would at the very worst say"i was dissapointed in todays performance"

top managers never but never criticize your own team in public

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

played better football than you.

This must be the most biased, subjective, agenda driven non sense ever written about a Spurs manager. Maybe in competition only with "would have gotten us CL".

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

i just need to get this off my chest regarding the chelsea defeat
i felt that untill the sending off and the verts error i actually believed we would go on to draw and maybe win the game
the sending off and verts error changed the whole game
i was disgusted with sherwood when he said that the whole team exept a few of his favourates were gutless
i had lots of doubts on sherwood but his post match comments just comfirmed that he was an a1 prick
managers such as nicholson or burkenshaw would at the very worst say"i was dissapointed in todays performance"

top managers never but never criticize your own team in public

The team was set up for a draw, and not much more. Even Ade was a DM for that match. You are spot on about the rest.