Ross Barkley

[agrdavidsfan]

The main thing to remember is it's a world cup year barkley needs to do everything to get in that squad.

 

[daryl hannah]

Spurs to wait until Jan to sign Barkley??

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ley-Mauricio-Pochettino-Davinson-Sanchez-News

 

[Ben1]

Spurs to wait until Jan to sign Barkley??

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ley-Mauricio-Pochettino-Davinson-Sanchez-News

Quotes a report which is the daily mail.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Spurs to wait until Jan to sign Barkley??

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ley-Mauricio-Pochettino-Davinson-Sanchez-News

The Express reporting Daily Mail guesswork.

 

[cosmund]

Spurs to wait until Jan to sign Barkley??

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ley-Mauricio-Pochettino-Davinson-Sanchez-News

But the DAILY MAIL say a deal for the England international is now likely to happen in January.

 

[Primativ]

The Express IMO should not be counted as a credible source for anything. It's about on a par with Tribal Football, when it comes to credibility.

 

[Krule]

I am beginning to liken this scenario to when you decide to buy a house...you shop around and then you see one you really, really like. Suddenly the tunnel vision kicks in and you are convinced this is the ONLY property in the world that would totally suit your needs. You ignore potential pitfalls and signs of wear and tear...you turn a deaf ear to 'friendly' advice and charge headlong into what you consider to be the best possible deal ever. Sometimes though it takes a large cold bucket of reality to hit you in the face and remind you that there are other options out there and maybe you have become just a little carried away with the whole thing.
Just how badly do we need Ross Barkley ?..could we walk away from a deal with no regrets ? Have we become a little 'sidetracked' and ignored other possibilities ?...is Koeman desperate to sell ? etc etc.
If I were Daniel Levy I would plonk a large brown envelope on Koeman's desk tonight and say "There's £20m for Ross. It stays on offer until the window shuts then it's history. Now I'm off to welcome Davinson Sanchez to our club....you have my number".

 

[DaleMurphy]

yeah just give them 20-25 and make it happen

Poch wants him and we'll still be in the black

 

[Hans Gruber]

Why would you pay £20-25m for someone now that you know is gonna be crocked for at least 3 months, most likely 6, and even then may take far longer to get up to previous levels of fitness/form? All the while having to pay their medical bills, etc; to me it makes no sense & I think a few people here have got a bit wrapped up in the whole Barkley transfer & are afraid to let him go.

I would certainly not be risking ANY money on him until earliest January, when we can probably pick him up for £10-15m and which gives us time to properly assess whether his injury problems have had any long term effect. Reportedly he wants to come and play under Poch; if that's the case there should be no problem in delaying the deal a bit in order to do so.

 

[cosmund]

I will be happy with 15m-20m, incl. add-ons.

 

[Sweech]

Why would you pay £20-25m for someone now that you know is gonna be crocked for at least 3 months, most likely 6, and even then may take far longer to get up to previous levels of fitness/form? All the while having to pay their medical bills, etc; to me it makes no sense & I think a few people here have got a bit wrapped up in the whole Barkley transfer & are afraid to let him go.

I would certainly not be risking ANY money on him until earliest January, when we can probably pick him up for £10-15m and which gives us time to properly assess whether his injury problems have had any long term effect. Reportedly he wants to come and play under Poch; if that's the case there should be no problem in delaying the deal a bit in order to do so.

Because you're purchasing a multi-year asset?

Plus we won't likely be able to assess anything with his injury as Everton likely won't play him. The only way to get a proper assessment is to buy him.

 

[Wsussexspur]

Because you're purchasing a multi-year asset?

Plus we won't likely be able to assess anything with his injury as Everton likely won't play him. The only way to get a proper assessment is to buy him.

I'm pretty sure Everton won't be making out his injuries are worse than what they actually are if they are keen to sell him. So can't see the need to buy him now just so we can assess his injuries.
If the reports are right and he is going to be out for at least three months then surely makes a lot more sense to wait till January to buy him. When with only six months left on his contract surely he will be cheaper than he is now.

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[cookiemonster]

Waiting till January is dangerous

Reminds me of the Gary Cahill fiasco

Little Levy thought he can get him cheaper and waited till January

John Terry then got himself injured and they move in for Cahill

We ended up with Ryan Nelsen

Isn't that horrifying?

Do you want to end up with Steve Sidwell?

 

[worcestersauce]

Why would you pay £20-25m for someone now that you know is gonna be crocked for at least 3 months, most likely 6, and even then may take far longer to get up to previous levels of fitness/form? All the while having to pay their medical bills, etc; to me it makes no sense & I think a few people here have got a bit wrapped up in the whole Barkley transfer & are afraid to let him go.

I would certainly not be risking ANY money on him until earliest January, when we can probably pick him up for £10-15m and which gives us time to properly assess whether his injury problems have had any long term effect. Reportedly he wants to come and play under Poch; if that's the case there should be no problem in delaying the deal a bit in order to do so.

On what evidence do you base you claim that it will be more like six months?

 

[Sweech]

I'm pretty sure Everton won't be making out his injuries are worse than what they actually are if they are keen to sell him. So can't see the need to buy him now just so we can assess his injuries.
If the reports are right and he is going to be out for at least three months then surely makes a lot more sense to wait till January to buy him. When with only six months left on his contract surely he will be cheaper than he is now.

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It's a dangerous game waiting it out. By January you may as well argue we should just wait until he's free. Surely even if injured we're better off bringing him in to work with our medical and fitness staff rather than the Everton one where he's just picked up two quick subsequent injuries.

Plus as Trix has asked/hinted no one really knows how bad it is or what the timetable is and there's a strong smell of it being sensationalized to being worse than what it actually is.

 

[Cinemattis]

What a barometer of how far we have come, I remember when members were getting hard over McCarthy on here.

True; lots and lots of hard members over Jenny McCarthy back in the day...

 

[Hans Gruber]

Because you're purchasing a multi-year asset?

Plus we won't likely be able to assess anything with his injury as Everton likely won't play him. The only way to get a proper assessment is to buy him.

So we should pay £25m so we can assess how bad is injury is? Not for me thanks.

 

[Hans Gruber]

On what evidence do you base you claim that it will be more like six months?

Well nobody can know how long he'll be out for definite, but clubs often like to underestimate with injuries for their players (see Rose, Lamela) and right now Everton have extra incentive to be.. creative.. with their assessment of Barkley's likely injury layoff = point 1.

Point 2 is that even if Barkley's injury only keeps him out for 3 months, and that's a big if, he's then got to get up to Poch levels of fitness without a pre-season and after a muscular injury layoff that will likely leave both him and the club pretty cautious about rushing things. He's also got to integrate himself into our style of play, our pressing, his relationship with the other attackers, and so on. Three months for all of that is optimistic, to put it mildly.

Even if somehow it only ends up being 4 months til he's back from injury and competing with the first team (which it wont) that then takes us almost to January where we can probably pick him up at a 50% discount with the added benefit of not having to fork out a further £1-2 million on wages and a further wad of cash on his medical bills.

Plus part of the reason we need another effing midfielder is because Dele Alli's gonna be out of the first 3 Champions League games. Spunking a fat £25mil on a crocked Barkley is £25m we wont spend on an alternative we can use for the first half of a year to propel us to PL and CL glory. I just can't see any way in which a move for him this early makes any sense, regardless of how much Poch wants him.

 

[cosmund]

it was announced that Gareth Barry was "out of action due to suffering an ankle injury" on the 12th Aug. News broken out the next day that West Brom was in talk with everton for his transfer. It takes another couple of days for the transfer to be complete, and he started for wba in their win against Burnley, looking fine.

I'm not saying Barkley's injury being completely made up, but apart from that "the Daily Fail understood" b******t we only know he should have had a scan (wednesday as Koeman said?) to access the situation. Daily Fail further understood he would be away for 3 months, and blahblahblah... I'd rather choose to believe the recent itk saying that his injury isn't that bad.

 

[tez1503]

@ Hans Gruber, I understand what your saying and agree to a certain extent but by your own reckoning we wait till January to buy him... then wait a few more months for him to get to Poch levels of fitness, integration into the system etc...

May as well get him for free next year!

If we are buying him, it will be for what he can offer us over the next 5-6 years. I don't think it really matters, him missing a few months if we buy him now.