Ross Barkley

[Clark28]

Got 99 problems, but the Barks ain't one.
Edit: ffs this is on page 100.

 

[Chanticleer81]

Yep your best interests of the club at heart bought the club for £120mil laid out none of Levys or Lewis money (Enics) only Spurs money.When stadium is done sell it for over a billion that is the only ambition (Enic) have making money off our badge. That is my opinion I don't wont to offend anyone as you have your opinion.

Levy doesn't have the personal fortune to make a difference to a football club. Lewis is also the majority shareholder of ENIC so any blame should be directed at Lewis in regards to a lack of external investment.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Yeah it is difficult to quantify which is why I find it odd that so many people are so certain that Levy is at fault.

The Willian one, I suspect, would have been a problem whenever we did the deal because wasn't his agent practically in bed with Abramovich? I suspect he'd have made that call whether we did the deal in a week or not, because he knew the wages would always be better at Chelsea.

I think it was the chairman and Anzhi. I think you are probably right, they were pretty stacked at the time and ended up selling Mata in Jan.

 

[TURKISH69]

They are an investment company ofcourse they want to make money. Just as every club apart from chelsea and city who have different motivations.
That doesn't mean that lewis and levy don't want success on the pitch. Levy's life revolves around spurs, it is his career, his financial investment , his reputation and he is a lifelong fan. He wants success more than you do.

I very much doubt that one, with the money coming into our club, and us continuously making profits every transfer window pretty much. Also our very low wage structure which if they don't sort out very soon will have a massive regression on our club. So I really hope our so called blue eyed boy of a chairman really knows what he's doing. ( my opinion).

 

[Lilbaz]

I very much doubt that one, with the money coming into our club, and us continuously making profits every transfer window pretty much. Also our very low wage structure which if they don't sort out very soon will have a massive regression on our club. So I really hope our so called blue eyed boy of a chairman really knows what he's doing. ( my opinion).

You'd have probably rather have spent money on the team rather than the academy/training ground, same as others.
Look at the benefits it is producing now though. Kane, winks, edwards, ccv, onomah, townsend, livermore, caulker, mason etc... even the ones that didn't make it were sold and the money reinvested in the team. Levy plans for the longterm.

 

[TURKISH69]

The vultures are circling on Barkley. Watch this space, to slow again.

 

[TURKISH69]

You'd have probably rather have spent money on the team rather than the academy/training ground, same as others.
Look at the benefits it is producing now though. Kane, winks, edwards, ccv, onomah, townsend, livermore, caulker, mason etc... even the ones that didn't make it were sold and the money reinvested in the team. Levy plans for the longterm.

Only investing in training ground and stadium to make profit.

 

[Lilbaz]

Only investing in training ground and stadium to make profit.

If they were that fixated on profit they never would have sold their investment in autonomy to buy spurs. They'd have made $2.5bn if they kept it. But both levy and lewis are spurs fans so enic sold most of their other investments to buy us.

 

[Cheltenham Spur]

Only investing in training ground and stadium to make profit.

You're @prawnsandwich and I claim my prize.

 

[kremlyn]

I very much doubt that one, with the money coming into our club, and us continuously making profits every transfer window pretty much. Also our very low wage structure which if they don't sort out very soon will have a massive regression on our club. So I really hope our so called blue eyed boy of a chairman really knows what he's doing. ( my opinion).

Juventus used to have a motto "vendere e vincere" (sic)

They were selling their best players like Zidane, Vieri, davids etc and yet still competing and winning the Scudetto and Champions league. It wasn't the match fixing scandal that broke them it was that this policy inevitably caught up with them and they got overtaken by the Milan clubs. They only really came back to form by buying sensibly and building a team while accepting that they would lose their stars like pogba, along the way.

In short, hubris sank them. This isn't Leeds, this is Juventus, one of the historically largest clubs in europe and definitely the biggest in Italy.

What they realised is that pride comes before a fall and they have to earn their place at the top.

Spurs are not a Juventus. We can never rest on our laurels. The only reason we've come back from the brink is because of prudence. It hasn't been sexy or exciting but since Levy started we've eventually seen world class footballers at the lane and slowly risen to the near-summit of the league.

We could have taken more risks and got there faster but we could also have signed more Bentleys than Bales.

So the question you're asking is, should we go out and buy more star players while we're still constructing our new stadium, have astonishingly good harmony in the squad, trade in a currency that is in mortal danger and while the value of players is fatuously over inflated?

Or should we stick to the plan?

 

[GMI]

I knew, of course, about Dave Gilmour, seen Floyd a couple of times, first was at Knebworth back in 1975

'75 was a great show although just before my time. I did see them at Knebworth in 1990.

 

[Lilbaz]

Can we take this topic to the levy thread?

Not pink flloyd that should probably go somewhere else

 

[worcestersauce]

Ross. Where are you? Page 100 your time is up.

 

[GMI]

Can we take this topic to the levy thread?

Not pink flloyd that should probably go somewhere else

Sorry...I started that. Not sure what came over me. A Momentary Lapse of Reason.

 

[TURKISH69]

If they were that fixated on profit they never would have sold their investment in autonomy to buy spurs. They'd have made $2.5bn if they kept it. But both levy and lewis are spurs fans so enic sold most of their other investments to buy us.

Sorry not having that, they are Spurs fans no doubt Lewis not sure we have not won anything for nearly a decade but it's always one thing after another with them. We haven't got European football, we haven't got champions league football then we are building the new stadium ( which they have stated will not impact on our incoming) there is always an excuse for us not to push on with the elite. It's a gravy train for them they do not want us with the elite because they will have to pay the wages. And if they don't sort the wage structure out our wonderful young team will evaporate to bigger wages and ambitions.

 

[Lilbaz]

Sorry not having that, they are Spurs fans no doubt Lewis not sure we have not won anything for nearly a decade but it's always one thing after another with them. We haven't got European football, we haven't got champions league football then we are building the new stadium ( which they have stated will not impact on our incoming) there is always an excuse for us not to push on with the elite. It's a gravy train for them they do not want us with the elite because they will have to pay the wages. And if they don't sort the wage structure out our wonderful young team will evaporate to bigger wages and ambitions.

Not the thread for it. There are plenty of threads in spurs chat to talk about this.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Sorry not having that, they are Spurs fans no doubt Lewis not sure we have not won anything for nearly a decade but it's always one thing after another with them. We haven't got European football, we haven't got champions league football then we are building the new stadium ( which they have stated will not impact on our incoming) there is always an excuse for us not to push on with the elite. It's a gravy train for them they do not want us with the elite because they will have to pay the wages. And if they don't sort the wage structure out our wonderful young team will evaporate to bigger wages and ambitions.

Baffling

 

[TURKISH69]

Juventus used to have a motto "vendere e vincere" (sic)

They were selling their best players like Zidane, Vieri, davids etc and yet still competing and winning the Scudetto and Champions league. It wasn't the match fixing scandal that broke them it was that this policy inevitably caught up with them and they got overtaken by the Milan clubs. They only really came back to form by buying sensibly and building a team while accepting that they would lose their stars like pogba, along the way.

In short, hubris sank them. This isn't Leeds, this is Juventus, one of the historically largest clubs in europe and definitely the biggest in Italy.

What they realised is that pride comes before a fall and they have to earn their place at the top.

Spurs are not a Juventus. We can never rest on our laurels. The only reason we've come back from the brink is because of prudence. It hasn't been sexy or exciting but since Levy started we've eventually seen world class footballers at the lane and slowly risen to the near-summit of the league.

We could have taken more risks and got there faster but we could also have signed more Bentleys than Bales.

So the question you're asking is, should we go out and buy more star players while we're still constructing our new stadium, have astonishingly good harmony in the squad, trade in a currency that is in mortal danger and while the value of players is fatuously over inflated?

Or should we stick to the plan?

Juve are in a much weaker league than us.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Juve are in a much weaker league than us.

Yes...which sort of proves the point that finishing 3rd and 2nd in a much stronger league is quite a good achievement.

Thanks for that.

I like an argument that solves itself.

 

[rossdapep]

Ross. Where are you? Page 100 your time is up.

I'm here. My time is up for what?