Ramos says he has more freedom over signings than he had at Sevilla

[Spursking]

Here is the story taken from Tribalfootball:

Tottenham boss Juande Ramos is happy to be working with sports director Damien Comolli over their transfer market plans. He told the Sunday Times: "I'm happy with the role I have here. We work as a team of four and try and come to joint decisions with the directors. But compared with Sevilla, I have more say in the decisions about signings."

Link: http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=82310

Good to hear that they all cooperate. They all have different tasks, and Comolli is the expert in this, but it is good to see how they can discuss it, and come up with a player they all believe would improve the team. It will be exciting to see, and if Kameni is the first new signing during the summer, it would not be a bad one

 

[TheChosenOne]

You need to get in there quickly and help with some good talent spotting.

 

[yanno]

You need to get in there quickly and help with some good talent spotting.

SK is the Fourth Man mentioned in the article....:wink:

SK - thanks for posting, even if we all have reservations about Tribal. The January transfer dealings do suggest to me that Ramos has a lot of say in who comes and who goes - although there were rumours that it was ultimately Levy who insisted that Defoe must go on deadline day. In other words, the board considered Defoe to be a financial/balance sheet issue, because his contract was running out and he still hadn't signed.

 

[yanno]

OK - the Tribal quote is of course stolen from this much longer Sunday Times piece (as per the other thread):

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/tottenham/article3511830.ece

 

[clint]

SK is the Fourth Man mentioned in the article....:wink:

SK - thanks for posting, even if we all have reservations about Tribal. The January transfer dealings do suggest to me that Ramos has a lot of say in who comes and who goes - although there were rumours that it was ultimately Levy who insisted that Defoe must go on deadline day. In other words, the board considered Defoe to be a financial/balance sheet issue, because his contract was running out and he still hadn't signed.

just as it was the board (or a certain d levy) who ultimately signed bent. he's so clever , he signed the player to replace a player he thought was leaving, but didnt. this in turn causes defoe more pressure not to sign because he is getting even less game time. pfffft, levy. well it will all end relatively happy with jol, bent and defoe all ending up at st james park over the next two windows. well happy, as long as levy learns from his ''clever moves'' . he really doesnt have the fans in mind when he is working at spurs so you should all really stop praising him for f.sake.


ok i go n read the article now (ehehe)

 

[MattyP]

Clint, Bent was signed to replace Defoe, who everyone inside the club expected to leave last summer.

But hey, we've just thumped Wet Spam 4-0, obvioulsy an optimal time to criticise Levy, nothing much else to whine about I suppose.

 

[clint]

i thought he was signed to replace berbatov, so my bad, or your bad, whichever the more accurate..

i will always have time to have a go at levy until he stops being the shady business man that he is, and stops signing players to replace players that havent actually left yet , players that although similarly priced , are worlds apart in terms of abilities, and suitability to our team. (i.e bent berbatov)

 

[MattyP]

I got my information from Chris Hughton, who is good mates with a friend of mine and told me everyone expected Defoe to leave in the summer, which coupled with Mido leaving would have left a gap in our striking options.

If you have it on better authority that Bent was signed to replace Berba, despite Levy saying "judge us by who we sell" in response to speculation we would sell him, then I'll be happy to admit defeat on this one.

But as I said after beating Wet Spam 4-0 we have to moan about something hey, so why not Levy.

 

[Pleat_Out]

and stops signing players to replace players that havent actually left yet , players that although similarly priced , are worlds apart in terms of abilities, and suitability to our team. (i.e bent berbatov)

Levy just signs the cheques. It isn't as if he would have sat down with the committee and said 'I think Bent would be a good idea'.

Levy gets the blame if he isn't signing enough cheques, ie he isn't showing enough ambition. And I don't think anyone can seriously accuse him of that.

 

[clint]

I got my information from Chris Hughton, who is good mates with a friend of mine and told me everyone expected Defoe to leave in the summer, which coupled with Mido leaving would have left a gap in our striking options.

If you have it on better authority that Bent was signed to replace Berba, despite Levy saying "judge us by who we sell" in response to speculation we would sell him, then I'll be happy to admit defeat on this one.

But as I said after beating Wet Spam 4-0 we have to moan about something hey, so why not Levy.

so in effect you are saying levy bought bent to be a third choice striker , or to partner berbatov.


even more of a joke..


no, i think he has learnt from his transfer dealings and management cock ups, if not , he is the biggest mug of all..


(for example ramos is a great tactician etc, but who is to say jol wasnt a better man manager? who is to say ramos will stick around longer than jol would have? i liked things last year and i like things now but i have learnt that levy does not back people enough.. but does he learn?)

 

[Pleat_Out]

but i have learnt that levy does not back people enough.. but does he learn?)

So what if he doesn't back people? Especially if they're not good enough? That is a good thing. His so called lack of backing is why we've won our first trophy in nearly a decade and we're back in Europe for the 3rd time on spin. So he doesn't need to learn anything on that front.

 

[chinaman]

I only care about Ramos's views are taken seriously when we sign players.

 

[MattyP]

so in effect you are saying levy bought bent to be a third choice striker , or to partner berbatov.


even more of a joke..

Not at all, Levy sits on part of the team that discusses transfer targets but he is there to sanction it from a financial perspective. To think that Levy employs a Director of Football and a head coach then decides himself who to sign is just fantasy.

He's not Roman Abramovich mate, he gets on with running the business and lets the football people look after the football side of things.

He's not perfect by any means, but there's a whole lot of chairman who are a lot worse than he is.

 

[clint]

Not at all, Levy sits on part of the team that discusses transfer targets but he is there to sanction it from a financial perspective. To think that Levy employs a Director of Football and a head coach then decides himself who to sign is just fantasy.

He's not Roman Abramovich mate, he gets on with running the business and lets the football people look after the football side of things.

He's not perfect by any means, but there's a whole lot of chairman who are a lot worse than he is.

so when jol suggested that we needed an experienced and pref prem blooded central defender, even in the likelyhood of kabouls arrival, did levy sanction this? of course not, levy was too busy watching d.bent videos and plotting jols demise..

of course, i agree with you, there are many worse chairmen , and levy's record is quite flawless. but the praise is not warranted, he doesn't have the fans in his heart, and has behaved quite badly a times, in purely football terms. so if he's learnt, great. if he hasnt - spurs will get stabbed in the backmany times over, just as he has done.

you live by the sword, you die by the sword, as it were

 

[Defsta]

SK is the Fourth Man mentioned in the article....:wink:

Nope, SK is fifth man as some time ago he admited he has been sending e-mails to our board about players he rates very highly. I can Imagine that.


"Dear Mr. Levy

There's player who we at ScoutingManagement rate very highly. We have been watching him for some time now and he's a good player. His name is Shagegewana Shigegawana and he playes for A Repsa Ropsant in French 3rd Division. He's rated One to the watch + in Scoutingmanagement and we feel he's really good prospect.

Yours faithfully
Director of
Scouting Management
SpursKing"

 

[milkman]

good. it was very unfair when BMJ was in charge and we didn't have any say in the transfer market.... He was forced to buy Kaboul and Bent by Levy etc...

 

[PLTuck]

Much as I disagree with some decisions Levy has made in his time, I think he's at least one of the best Chairman in the Premiership, all things considered.

And of course he has the fans in mind all the time. That's where alot of the club's income comes from. Would be a bit stupid not to consider fans, but he is also not an appeaser ala Mike Ashley. He does what he feels (sometimes wrongly, granted) is best for the club at the time.

These last 3 or 4 years has been pretty much the first time since I became a supporter that I can be really, genuinely excited about where my club is heading. Levy has worked his nuts off to get there.

As the saying goes, You don't know what you've got till it's gone.

I wouldn't swap him for anyone at the moment.

 

[Zammo]

Considering some of the chairmen out there, Levy is up there with the best of them. I sometimes wonder about his methods, but I never doubt that his intentions are always in the interests of the club. He has provided huge sums of money for us to strengthen the squad. He must look at some of the players that we have spent millions on and wonder where his money goes sometimes, but he never complains and is always there to write the next cheque. And for that I am very thankful.

 

[michaelden]

On the flip side, it means the scouts at Sevilla piocked out some great talents that fitted well into Ramos' team and suited his philosophy

 

[Pleat_Out]

so when jol suggested that we needed an experienced and pref prem blooded central defender, even in the likelyhood of kabouls arrival, did levy sanction this? of course not, levy was too busy watching d.bent videos and plotting jols demise..

It is up to Levy to decide whether we can afford the likes of Kaboul, not whether we need an experienced centre back or not. I'd be rather worried if the chairman was deciding which players we should be buying.