Premier League 2023/2024

[midoshairband]

Actually he's right. Keepers are allowed leeway when they come for the ball. If they are trying to get the ball.

What was different here was that Onana was never ever getting to that ball and knew it.

wow, I actually never knew that. where is that rule written and what is the leeway? seems pretty loose to me.

 

[homer hotspur]

VAR wants to keep the decisions on the pitch.. But yesterday they had to interfere. Biased.

Always more likely when it's for the home team I think

 

[BHX88]

A challenge like that in rugby, with both feet off the ground and a player in mid-air is a minimum sinbin if not red card., on the basis of it being so dangerous. How this isn’t even a penalty is ridiculous. Football officiating stinks at the moment.

 

[cwy21]

wow, I actually never knew that. where is that rule written and what is the leeway? seems pretty loose to me.

It's quite unwritten. It's probably the trickiest situation in the current laws. It would take a decision from the highest levels (FIFA/IFAB) to clarify it.

 

[DarwinSpur]

wow, I actually never knew that. where is that rule written and what is the leeway? seems pretty loose to me.

Not sure if serious but if you've watched or played football you'll know that keepers are allowed to come for the ball even if that causes contact.

the rule of thumb though is that you must be realistically attempting the ball. Onana was not. Which is why it should have been a penalty

 

[midoshairband]

It's quite unwritten. It's probably the trickiest situation in the current laws. It would take a decision from the highest levels (FIFA/IFAB) to clarify it.

thanks for the polite reply.

does sound an odd one, not sure how it can be made better, but that one tonight was a stonewall pen in my view.

 

[cwy21]

thanks for the polite reply.

does sound an odd one, not sure how it can be made better, but that one tonight was a stonewall pen in my view.

Apparently the line is beyond what Vicario did yesterday but below this. And while I agree the traditional standard applied (shot is away and then collision vs keeper very late to an aerial challenge) is different the plain text reading of the laws treats keepers no different than defenders in these situations.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

 

[cwy21]

You gone f***ed up when Jon Moss is telling the media how bad the decision was an hour after the match.

 

[bradfordspur]

Ask Hugo in the World Cup if there is any leeway for goalkeepers.

 

[cwy21]

Ask Hugo in the World Cup if there is any leeway for goalkeepers.

Euros but point taken. Should be a PK for the same reason.

 

[Matrix]

Old Trafford hey...all well and good apologising, Wolves can’t put that in the league table. How our officials f*ck up so badly, with replay assistance?!

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Just realized the Wolves player that Onana mugged was not the one who played the ball - just an innocent bystander.

 

[robotsonic]

I moan all the time about how long VAR takes, but it's only a chore because they muck up the decisions anyway. For a final minute penalty call for points, I don't care if they draw so many lines that it looks like a fucking spirograph, just get it right. Get the rulebook out and let's all have a live look at it for 10 minutes, I don't care. Just get it right! Because otherwise don't bother with it and we'll play to the ref and complain about it in the extra time we have free in our lives not taken up by VAR review.

The Prem seems to do this system worse than anyone. I cannot fathom how we have such awful officiating in a league with this much profile. I have a lot of time for officials because it is a thankless task in so many ways, and they get paid crap money compared to the gravity of their decision making, but for years they just wanted help, and it's just making things worse if anything as for every bad decision corrected we're treated to another bad one where we've got 3 mins of slo-mo to watch from multiple angles to see how comically they've bungled it so that we all feel awful about the state of things.

I cannot believe that the league is letting this kind of stuff happen. It's making the brand look absolutely shit, which should be, and usually is, their biggest concern, given that maintenance of sporting integrity will always fall second to it, but is also thrown in the bin to boot.

 

[DenverSpur]

If the ball was played into the box on the ground and the GK comes out but misses the ball and clatters the forward it’s a penalty every time. Why is it different because the ball is in the air?

 

[DenverSpur]

Worst decision I think I have ever seen.

Same referee who gave the last minute penalty against Sarr at Southampton when Maitland-Niles threw himself against Sarr?

 

[glacierSpurs]

I hate and detest such comments and/or admittance from PGMOL after the game. What more can then be done? They will still continue to commit the same mistake again and again and again. The referees have to be accounted for their actions when acted upon wrongly, if not they will never learn and wouldn't strive to improve.

Edit: @Llord Flashheart , I didn't know talking about PL refs in a PL thread is considered off-topic, lol

 

[Gassin's finest]

I moan all the time about how long VAR takes, but it's only a chore because they muck up the decisions anyway. For a final minute penalty call for points, I don't care if they draw so many lines that it looks like a fucking spirograph, just get it right. Get the rulebook out and let's all have a live look at it for 10 minutes, I don't care. Just get it right! Because otherwise don't bother with it and we'll play to the ref and complain about it in the extra time we have free in our lives not taken up by VAR review.

The Prem seems to do this system worse than anyone. I cannot fathom how we have such awful officiating in a league with this much profile. I have a lot of time for officials because it is a thankless task in so many ways, and they get paid crap money compared to the gravity of their decision making, but for years they just wanted help, and it's just making things worse if anything as for every bad decision corrected we're treated to another bad one where we've got 3 mins of slo-mo to watch from multiple angles to see how comically they've bungled it so that we all feel awful about the state of things.

I cannot believe that the league is letting this kind of stuff happen. It's making the brand look absolutely shit, which should be, and usually is, their biggest concern, given that maintenance of sporting integrity will always fall second to it, but is also thrown in the bin to boot.

VAR in the Prem is essentially a window to allow for the relevant parties to bid for the highest bribe to influence the decision. Convince me I'm wrong.

 

[dirtyh]

United at old Trafford. Say no more, some things are as immutable as gravity. *

* yes, stolen from top gun. Sue me.

 

[Huddlestone22]

I hate that VAR was meant to correct the controversy and instead it's continued, with added delays breaking up the play.

There is no point in VAR if the ruling is so inconsistent.