Points haul versus 2009-2010 (Including rivals)

[MilkyBarYid]

Ok, I have too much time on my hands and so I thought I would work out our points haul compaired to this time last season and also that of our rivals for top 4:

I have replaced the following:

Burnley with Newcastle
Hull City with West Brom
Portsmouth with Blackpool

Tottenham
Man City (H) -2
Stoke City (A) 0
Wigan (H) -3
West Brom (A) -2
Total = -7

Man City
Tottenham (A) +1
Liverpool (H) +2
Sunderland (A) -1
Blackburn (H) -2
Total = 0

Liverpool
Arsenal (H) +1
Man City (A) -1
West Brom (H) 0
Birmingham (A) 0
Total = 0

Aston Villa
West Ham (H) +2
Newcastle (A) -1
Everton (H) +2
Stoke (A) -1
Total = +2

I know this isn't an exact science but compared to last seasons corresponding results we are 7 points worse off with only Villa points haul being better than last seasons with 2 more.

 

[brett.spurs]

R  R/D  Team                    GD  GDD  Pts PD
1       Chelsea (C)             +81 (+10)91 (+5)
2       Manchester United       +63 (+5) 87 (+2)
3       Arsenal                 +47 (+5) 76 (+1)
4 (+1)  Manchester City         +30 (+2) 67
-------------------------------------------------
5 (+1)  Aston Villa             +10 (-3) 66 (+2)
6 (+1)  Liverpool               +20 (-6) 63
7 (-3)  Tottenham Hotspur       +10 (-16)63 (-7)
8       Everton                 +6  (-5) 55 (-6)
9       Birmingham City         −6  (+3) 52 (+2)
10      Blackburn Rovers        −11 (+3) 51 (+1) 
11      Stoke City              −9  (+5) 47 
12      Fulham                  −10 (-3) 44 (-2)
13      Sunderland              −10 (-2) 42 (-2)
14(+1)  Wolverhampton Wanderers −26 (-2) 37 (-1)
15(-1)  Bolton Wanderers        −26 (-1) 37 (-2)
16(+3)  West Brom               −36 (+5) 34 (+4)
17(+1)  Newcastle               −33 (+7) 33 (+3)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
18(-2)  Wigan Athletic          −46 (-4) 32 (-4)
19(-2)  West Ham United         −25 (-6) 32 (-3)
20      Blackpool               −23 (+3) 31 (+3)



Key: R=Rankings, R/D=Rankings Difference
     GD=Goal Difference, GDD=Goal Difference Difference
     Pts=Points, PD=Points Difference

 

[Jody]

If we beat Wolves home and away, improve on just one other result, if Villa do their typical post Christmas crash and if everything else stays equal.....

....we'll finish 4th.

 

[WhiteStripe]

Great simple comparison mate. Keep this up if possible. Rep on the way!!

 

[EmperorKabir]

I'm sure a brigade of bashers will come along to say this is all pointless but it's all good and interesting. I was thinking about this myself. We are gonna have a hard time making up the points, but we definitely threw away some results last year.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Let's hope that our next match leaves us with -4 on last season eh!

 

[bigturnip]

Ok, I have too much time on my hands and so I thought I would work out our points haul compaired to this time last season and also that of our rivals for top 4:

I have replaced the following:

Burnley with Newcastle
Hull City with West Brom
Portsmouth with Blackpool

Tottenham
Man City (H) -2
Stoke City (A) 0
Wigan (H) -3
West Brom (A) -2
Total = -7

Man City
Tottenham (A) +1
Liverpool (H) +2
Sunderland (A) -1
Blackburn (H) -2
Total = 0

Liverpool
Arsenal (H) +1
Man City (A) -1
West Brom (H) 0
Birmingham (A) 0
Total = 0

Aston Villa
West Ham (H) +2
Newcastle (A) -1
Everton (H) +2
Stoke (A) -1
Total = +2

I know this isn't an exact science but compared to last seasons corresponding results we are 7 points worse off with only Villa points haul being better than last seasons with 2 more.

I would probably throw Arsenal into the mix as well, we had a chance to overtake them right up to the last game last season.

 

[THFC6061]

 

[sloth]

Unfortunately these like for like comparisons are pretty meaningless, but i guess if you've time on your hands... :shrug:

 

[SpurSince57]

I would probably throw Arsenal into the mix as well, we had a chance to overtake them right up to the last game last season.

The kind of chance you'd have bet on only if you were really desperate to donate all your money to Paddy Power.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Ok, I have too much time on my hands and so I thought I would work out our points haul compaired to this time last season and also that of our rivals for top 4:

I have replaced the following:

Burnley with Newcastle
Hull City with West Brom
Portsmouth with Blackpool

Tottenham
Man City (H) -2
Stoke City (A) 0
Wigan (H) -3
West Brom (A) -2
Total = -7

Man City
Tottenham (A) +1
Liverpool (H) +2
Sunderland (A) -1
Blackburn (H) -2
Total = 0

Liverpool
Arsenal (H) +1
Man City (A) -1
West Brom (H) 0
Birmingham (A) 0
Total = 0

Aston Villa
West Ham (H) +2
Newcastle (A) -1
Everton (H) +2
Stoke (A) -1
Total = +2

I know this isn't an exact science but compared to last seasons corresponding results we are 7 points worse off with only Villa points haul being better than last seasons with 2 more.

Not encouraging really is it? Come on Spurs, pick it up!!

 

[kcmei]

i think the main reason is that this time last season lennon was in top form

 

[WhiteStripe]

Not comparable as the comparison of points isn't based on times in teh season rather than games vs games. They don't happen at the same time in consecutive seasons.

Its a very interesting comparison though, and will keep a running total of how we are doing vs our rivals.

 

[tRiKS]

i think it's a fairly decent measure. ALthough In my head i'd paired Newcastle with Hull and Burnley with west brom! for no other reason that to put a positive spin on the draw at the horthorns. -6

We can console our defeat to wigan by beating wolves. -3

 

[sloth]

Not comparable as the comparison of points isn't based on times in teh season rather than games vs games. They don't happen at the same time in consecutive seasons.

Its a very interesting comparison though, and will keep a running total of how we are doing vs our rivals.

i think it's a fairly decent measure. ALthough In my head i'd paired Newcastle with Hull and Burnley with west brom! for no other reason that to put a positive spin on the draw at the horthorns. -6

We can console our defeat to wigan by beating wolves. -3

I just tossed a coin 38 times it went:

H, H, H, H, T, H, H, T, T, H, H, T, H, T, T, T, T, H, T, H ,T, T, H ,T, T, T, T, T, H, H, T, H, T, H, H, T, T, T

Tails won 20 points to 18.

Now I've tossed it another 5 times:

T, H, T, T, T,

Like for like, compared to the last time, it's 3 up! That means Tails must be heading for an even bigger victory this time!!

Which of course it doesn't at all.

 

[WhiteStripe]

I just tossed a coin 38 times it went:

H, H, H, H, T, H, H, T, T, H, H, T, H, T, T, T, T, H, T, H ,T, T, H ,T, T, T, T, T, H, H, T, H, T, H, H, T, T, T

Tails won 20 points to 18.

Now I've tossed it another 5 times:

T, H, T, T, T,

Like for like, compared to the last time, it's 3 up! That means Tails must be heading for an even bigger victory this time!!

Which of course it doesn't at all.

You're looking at it too literally. Were in no way thinking we will get 4th if we get the exact same results as last season.

I like this kind of comparison because:
a) it gives me a guage of how the others are doing compared to us,
b) it gives me some perspective and
c) it makes things more interesting by thinking "great, if we win these two ties then that will put us back on track" just adds a bit of fun and excitement back to fixtures.

 

[StartingPrice]

Number 1 = THFC

Feck the rest :grin:

 

[sloth]

You're looking at it too literally. Were in no way thinking we will get 4th if we get the exact same results as last season.

I like this kind of comparison because:
a) it gives me a guage of how the others are doing compared to us,
b) it gives me some perspective and
c) it makes things more interesting by thinking "great, if we win these two ties then that will put us back on track" just adds a bit of fun and excitement back to fixtures.

Ahh, you're right mate. Sorry. Just my job for the last four years has been working with mathematicians to calculate sporting probabilities, so my heads full of what's good and what's bad analysis.

And then to top it all, just to make me particularly anal about this stuff right now, I've almost finished reading a fantastic book about the history of probability theory, The Drunkards Walk by Leonard Mlodinow, which I can't recommend highly enough if you want a very readable introduction to the subject.

 

[SuperSpurs_Ollie]

It's all a case of ''What if'' with regards to these types of threads.

 

[3Dnata]

Big plus 3 today.