Pochettino Press Conferences

[Lighty64]

Impossible, or difficult?

That excuse worked last summer, it isn’t going to cut it this time out or else why would he say that we need to act differently? I’d very much doubt he hasn’t been given assurances from DL about that very thing, or he may have taken up RM or MUFC when they came knocking.

Don’t get me wrong, two years ago I was stating the exact same line defending DL and decrying the ‘need for trophies=success now’ brigade. However, this TW is different for so many reasons, it’s pivotal (no understatement) and GLC is absolutely key to prove DL is acting ‘differently’ and backing Poch. Get that sorted and I’d expect we’re good until next summer on and off the pitch.

Well surely the time to moan is when the transfer window is closed and we don’t get the targets.

Both the targets we haven’t got would of only been joining around now, without having to pay the max. Why pay 88m, and apparently £40m with losing 2 players making it nearer 50m to then pay wages on top and they can’t contribute.

 

[Lighty64]

Why the hell should I ?
Your comment was obviously just totally factually wrong in the first place, even if you don't do any addbacks whatsoever, we currently could spend 300m and wages and be within FFP.
Then you were the one who wants to totally change the goalposts, and go back to some mythical time and want me to all the groundwork for you. Sod off
Seriously Lighty, give it a rest, for your sanity and mine. Keep finances off your radar, Even your last paragraph is total bollocks, and you really are devaluing other things you contribute to the board with this naivety.

My 2nd paragraph was from previous viewing from transfer market and later I will add the link

Edit: I’ve looked before for history of profits and not easy to find, but we was out of the top 10 rich list for a reason during that time.

 

[Trotter]

Depends on your definition of Latin America. Most consider any part of South America that speaks French, Spanish of Portuguese to be Latin America.

Not just South America, Some Central America and Caribbean countries are classified as Latin American also. But totally correct in saying that it is those countries that French, Spanish or Portuguese when the "Romance languages" are dominant

 

[Scott Spur]

Well surely the time to moan is when the transfer window is closed and we don’t get the targets.

Both the targets we haven’t got would of only been joining around now, without having to pay the max. Why pay 88m, and apparently £40m with losing 2 players making it nearer 50m to then pay wages on top and they can’t contribute.

Not once have I said that the deal needs to be done by now, clearly this will go down to the last few days of the window, as you would expect in this instance.

That doesn't mean I/we shouldn't express an opinion when we get ITK & Poch stating that things may be going south though does it?

 

[Trotter]

My 2nd paragraph was from previous viewing from transfer market and later I will add the link

Edit: I’ve looked before for history of profits and not easy to find, but we was out of the top 10 rich list for a reason during that time.

Again totally confusing profits with club value (being on rich list)
History of profits is easy to find, can get them from the clubs accounts. Depreciation on stadium and training grounds you can get from them also. You won't be able to get youth development costs though unless they specifically state that in the notes to accounts.

Seriously I am happy to do some calculations to try and prove or more likely disprove whatever point you want to make, (after all numbers is my forte, was divisional CFO of a company, with more than 100 times the turnover of THFC), but am not going to do the groundwork for you.

 

[rossdapep]

Technically he's South American and from somewhere about as far away from Latin America as we are from the middle East ?

Ermmm...your name is Brasil Spur??

I hope you're not Brazilian otherwise....

 

[Primativ]

Obviously I love Poch to bits, but the one thing that irks me with him, and it happened last season, is just the way he deals with the press. I don't mean generally, but specifically when he is talking about the club, his future, transfers, that sort of stuff. He is always saying things to create headlines and which on the surface creates turbulence with us fans.

One minute he is calm and chilled, the next he says something complete contradictory which leaves many fans guessing if he's pissed off. The only managers of the top 6 who created as many sensationalist headlines as Poch did last season was Sarri and Mourinho and look where they are now.

I find it disconcerting because if you were to analyse the majority of his comments over the past 12 months in press conferences, the majority of them seem to indicate he is not happy with many things going on at the club. He is obviously an emotional guy, that is part of his charm and success, but it also does mean he says things which can cause alarm with supporters. I just don't see the same thing from Klopp or Guardiola.

That said, I can stand behind Poch doing this because I want what he wants, which is better backing. I just find it annoying that it's always so vague when he speaks which leaves us guessing what he is upto.

I get the impression Poch is not entirely happy with the way Levy is running the club on the football side, he wants Levy to change his ways and spend more, and Poch is continually meeting resistance so is applying pressure through the press. You can try to gloss over Tuesdays comments by saying he was in a bad mood, but reading between the lines over the last 18 months or so, there is a consistent subtext to his public comments. Poch isn't satisfied with the backing he is getting from Levy. Poch will either get the backing or he will be off in the near future.

 

[jurgen]

Obviously I love Poch to bits, but the one thing that irks me with him, and it happened last season, is just the way he deals with the press. I don't mean generally, but specifically when he is talking about the club, his future, transfers, that sort of stuff. He is always saying things to create headlines and which on the surface creates turbulence with us fans.

One minute he is calm and chilled, the next he says something complete contradictory which leaves many fans guessing if he's pissed off. The only managers of the top 6 who created as many sensationalist headlines as Poch did last season was Sarri and Mourinho and look where they are now.

I find it disconcerting because if you were to analyse the majority of his comments over the past 12 months in press conferences, the majority of them seem to indicate he is not happy with many things going on at the club. He is obviously an emotional guy, that is part of his charm and success, but it also does mean he says things which can cause alarm with supporters. I just don't see the same thing from Klopp or Guardiola.

That said, I can stand behind Poch doing this because I want what he wants, which is better backing. I just find it annoying that it's always so vague when he speaks which leaves us guessing what he is upto.

I get the impression Poch is not entirely happy with the way Levy is running the club on the football side, he wants Levy to change his ways and spend more, and Poch is continually meeting resistance so is applying pressure through the press. You can try to gloss over Tuesdays comments by saying he was in a bad mood, but reading between the lines over the last 18 months or so, there is a consistent subtext to his public comments. Poch isn't satisfied with the backing he is getting from Levy. Poch will either get the backing or he will be off in the near future.

Why would you get the same thing from Klopp or Pep, they've had fully operational money cannons to use rather than Verne Troyer's water pistol

 

[Primativ]

Why would you get the same thing from Klopp or Pep, they've had fully operational money cannons to use rather than Verne Troyer's water pistol

Haha, well yes that is my point, it indicates that Poch isn't happy doesn't it. Otherwise he wouldn't have been so wishy washy when he heavily linked with the United job, where we can all admit he wasn't exactly forthright in his rebuttals of the rumours and instead seemed to fan the flames even more.

At the end of the day it isn't a good sign when our manager is saying some of the things he has been in the press over the last 12 months or so. I'm not saying it's panic stations, but to say Poch is happy with things behind the scenes I would say is extremely optimistic.

I think Levy is extremely stubborn and as a football man, Poch wants more to achieve glory, and Levy doesn't work that way.

 

[rossdapep]

Obviously I love Poch to bits, but the one thing that irks me with him, and it happened last season, is just the way he deals with the press. I don't mean generally, but specifically when he is talking about the club, his future, transfers, that sort of stuff. He is always saying things to create headlines and which on the surface creates turbulence with us fans.

One minute he is calm and chilled, the next he says something complete contradictory which leaves many fans guessing if he's pissed off. The only managers of the top 6 who created as many sensationalist headlines as Poch did last season was Sarri and Mourinho and look where they are now.

I find it disconcerting because if you were to analyse the majority of his comments over the past 12 months in press conferences, the majority of them seem to indicate he is not happy with many things going on at the club. He is obviously an emotional guy, that is part of his charm and success, but it also does mean he says things which can cause alarm with supporters. I just don't see the same thing from Klopp or Guardiola.

That said, I can stand behind Poch doing this because I want what he wants, which is better backing. I just find it annoying that it's always so vague when he speaks which leaves us guessing what he is upto.

I get the impression Poch is not entirely happy with the way Levy is running the club on the football side, he wants Levy to change his ways and spend more, and Poch is continually meeting resistance so is applying pressure through the press. You can try to gloss over Tuesdays comments by saying he was in a bad mood, but reading between the lines over the last 18 months or so, there is a consistent subtext to his public comments. Poch isn't satisfied with the backing he is getting from Levy. Poch will either get the backing or he will be off in the near future.

I agree he needs to perhaps be a little more diplomatic when he's feeling agitated. Maybe tell the press officer that he wants him to shoot down certain questions as he's feeling a little peeved.
Although there's a reason Klopp and Pep don't behave this way at their club - 400m + reasons why.

 

[TURKISH69]

So you honestly would prefer to do what Blackburn did, even if it meant being where they are now

Yes with out doubt winning premier league , o we haven’t won it ever but remember 60/61 obviously not history you Archy sort these Baffoons out please

 

[The Doc]

Everything is fine according to this bloke. Just a bit of bantz. Similar to the sort of thing we do all the time when that same person always does a houdini when it's their trip to the bar. And release. Release......

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/31/mauricio-pochettino-tottenham

 

[spursfan77]

Apologies if posted but worth a read

https://www.dearmrlevy.com/dml/2019/7/31/curb-your-pessimism

 

[Lighty64]

Yes with out doubt winning premier league , o we haven’t won it ever but remember 60/61 obviously not history you Archy sort these Baffoons out please

Your gripe is we haven’t won a trophy for absolute ages, god what would you have been like if you was on a Blackburn forum 22 years later, been in division one for a year and doubt unless they have a major take over will even ever make it into the premier league.

 

['O Zio]

Technically he's South American and from somewhere about as far away from Latin America as we are from the middle East ?

What is your definition of Latin America then? It's generally considered to be the countries that predominantly speak Latin-based languages, so all of South America, most of Central America and parts of the Carribean. I've personally never heard of a definition of Latin America that doesn't include Argentina so I'm intrigues as to where you're trying to go with this.

 

[ardiles]

What is your definition of Latin America then? It's generally considered to be the countries that predominantly speak Latin-based languages, so all of South America, most of Central America and parts of the Carribean. I've personally never heard of a definition of Latin America that doesn't include Argentina so I'm intrigues as to where you're trying to go with this.

It’s generally used for all or most countries south of the US. Although I’m not sure about Surinam ( as they have Dutch links) and British Guiana.

 

['O Zio]

It’s generally used for all or most countries south of the US. Although I’m not sure about Surinam ( as they have Dutch links) and British Guiana.

Some people might say "everything south of the US" but that's not the common definition, in fact I'd go as far as to say that's flat out wrong. Like I say, to me (and I believe most people) Latin America means all the countries that predominantly speak Latin-based languages, so obviously Spanish, French and Portuguese. Places like Suriname and Guyana I would not include for the reasons you've mentioned. However, I've never ever heard of a definition of Latin America that doesn't include Argentina so I have no idea what the other poster is trying to get at saying Argentina is as far from LAtin America as we are from the middle east or some nonsense.

 

[Metalhead]

Your gripe is we haven’t won a trophy for absolute ages, god what would you have been like if you was on a Blackburn forum 22 years later, been in division one for a year and doubt unless they have a major take over will even ever make it into the premier league.

Of course ironically the last trophy that they won was against us wasn't it? Thing is, I wouldn't complain as a Blackburn fan because that league title was always the best that they would ever get. A town that size would be unlikely to support a footballing dynasty.

 

[Lighty64]

Of course ironically the last trophy that they won was against us wasn't it? Thing is, I wouldn't complain as a Blackburn fan because that league title was always the best that they would ever get. A town that size would be unlikely to support a footballing dynasty.

to be honest I would absolutely love to win the Premier League, but not fold after. might be a smallish town, but just look at home many derbies we have, and clubs within a 15-20 mile radius. if I was offered the PL tomorrow but be in League 1 within 5 years I don't think I'd accept it. yes I would follow us till the end, but imagine a 62k stadium with just 10-15k max a week. the club would be in bigger trouble than Leeds and Sunderland (I know it won't happen)

by the way @MK Yid after searching those papers I'll just concede defeat, + my memory of the transfers before looking at it again. last season I had a disagreement before the window shut and in ENIC's time we had at the time only 3 windows where we made a profit on sales. working it over the last 10, it's 6 plus windows 4 minus

 

[Metalhead]

to be honest I would absolutely love to win the Premier League, but not fold after. might be a smallish town, but just look at home many derbies we have, and clubs within a 15-20 mile radius. if I was offered the PL tomorrow but be in League 1 within 5 years I don't think I'd accept it. yes I would follow us till the end, but imagine a 62k stadium with just 10-15k max a week. the club would be in bigger trouble than Leeds and Sunderland (I know it won't happen)

by the way @MK Yid after searching those papers I'll just concede defeat, + my memory of the transfers before looking at it again. last season I had a disagreement before the window shut and in ENIC's time we had at the time only 3 windows where we made a profit on sales. working it over the last 10, it's 6 plus windows 4 minus

If we get Lo Celso and Sessegnon I can't see that anyone has any complaints about spend - more importantly, it'll show that Poch has been backed, which is crucial I think.