Player Watch Player Watch: Yves Bissouma

[fishhhandaricecake]

I think the difference between him and Hojbjerb at the minute is that Pierre seems to have taken the instruction from the manager better and is moving the ball forward with much more purpose.

But he appears to be a shadow of the player we signed from Brighton. Time will tell.

I honestly think this is a bit OTT as is some of the general criticism of him lately.
He played very well against West Ham away as Ange stated in the presser after.

Players do go in and out of form, it happens.

Biss was phenomenal in our first 11 games, then he had a few disciplinary slip-ups, AFCON, Malaria and he's come back to a team and squad which has had a lot of players coming back from injuries and international touraments and so has been a bit up and down with its form.

Biss is a bit off form and yes PEH has been moving the ball forwards more quickly but also that is PEH's style, he's a completely different player to Bissouma, Biss plays out the press much better than PEH, he can dribble much better etc etc.

I think some people need to chill a bit about Biss, he isn't going anywhere he just needs to find his form again and I'm sure he will.

Maddison has not found his early season form yet but no-where near as many people are doubting on him as much as they are Biss. Its also why we have a squad so PEH and Bentancur can come in when Biss and Sarr etc are a bit off form and probably both a bit tired from AFCON and in Biss's case from having maleria!

Someone even said they think we will sell him this summer, imo that is absolute madness. The only players in that position who would be better than Biss are the likes of Rice, Rodri etc and these players cost £80-100mil which we won't be spending on any player never mind a DM.

 

[Thenewcat]

I honestly think this is a bit OTT as is some of the general criticism of him lately.
He played very well against West Ham away as Ange stated in the presser after.

Players do go in and out of form, it happens.

Biss was phenomenal in our first 11 games, then he had a few disciplinary slip-ups, AFCON, Malaria and he's come back to a team and squad which has had a lot of players coming back from injuries and international touraments and so has been a bit up and down with its form.

Biss is a bit off form and yes PEH has been moving the ball forwards more quickly but also that is PEH's style, he's a completely different players to Bissmouma, Biss plays out the press much better than PEH, he can dribble much better etc etc.

I think some people need to chill a bit about Biss, he isn't going anywhere he just needs to find his form again and I'm sure he will. Maddison has not found his early season form yet but no-where near as many people are doubting on his as much as they are Biss. Its also why we have a squad so PEH and Bentancur can come in when Biss and Sarr etc are a bit off form and probably both a bit tired from AFCON and in Biss's case from having maleria!

Someone even said they think we will sell him this summer, imo that is absolute madness. The only players in that position who would be better than Biss are the likes of Rice, Rodri etc and these players cost £80-100mil which we won't be spending on any player never mind a DM.

I don’t want to sell him but I think you’ve swung too far the other way and are making excuses for some pretty shit form. I agree he was good at West Ham but we can’t have a first team starter where you have to think about which games he has played well in. He was absolutely dreadful against Forest, both in quality and less forgivably for me his effort looked poor at times.

Ange seems to see him as undroppable and he’s nowhere near that level for me so has to have competition. Also don’t agree re Maddison - everyone has been commenting that he has not got back to pre injury form and I’ve seen plenty of calls to start GLC.

I don’t think we have a single player in midfield or attack who should be considered a nailed on starter outside of Sonny (and even he has his share of stinkers where he could be brought off). For me the one who is closest is actually Bentancur - he looks to be getting back to form and pre injury Lolo was the second name on the team sheet after Harry

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

I don’t want to sell him but I think you’ve swung too far the other way and are making excuses for some pretty shit form. I agree he was good at West Ham but we can’t have a first team starter where you have to think about which games he has played well in. He was absolutely dreadful against Forest, both in quality and less forgivably for me his effort looked poor at times.

Ange seems to see him as undroppable and he’s nowhere near that level for me so has to have competition. Also don’t agree re Maddison - everyone has been commenting that he has not got back to pre injury form and I’ve seen plenty of calls to start GLC.

I don’t think we have a single player in midfield or attack who should be considered a nailed on starter outside of Sonny (and even he has his share of stinkers where he could be brought off). For me the one who is closest is actually Bentancur - he looks to be getting back to form and pre injury Lolo was the second name on the team sheet after Harry

I didn’t want to be sucked into this again but Nah, he wasn’t absolutely dreadful. He was probably our best player the first 20 minutes. I’ve watched the majority of the game again. He seems to have taken the majority of blame for the goal and i think he miss controlled a high ball with his back to goal. Apart from that the last twenty he was fine and no worse than anyone else.

the goal he should of done more, but VDV sold himself and was the bigger reason for the chance/goal and Udogie obviously let his man run off him.

 

[Thenewcat]

I didn’t want to be sucked into this again but Nah, he wasn’t absolutely dreadful. He was probably our best player the first 20 minutes. I’ve watched the majority of the game again. He seems to have taken the majority of blame for the goal and i think he miss controlled a high ball with his back to goal. Apart from that the last twenty he was fine and no worse than anyone else.

the goal he should of done more, but VDV sold himself and was the bigger reason for the chance/goal and Udogie obviously let his man run off him.

He started ok but we completely lost control of the midfield in the second quarter and that was down to him and Pape. He trod on the ball to launch one dangerous counter and gave away the ball countless times. Replacing them at HT completely changed the game.

on the goal I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. VDV is absolutely blameless, he picks up his man. Udogie could have done more to track his runner but Bissouma has 5 yards on either of them. If he tracks back he can stop the ball reaching wood, simple as that. There’s even a moment when he sees the danger, thinks about sprinting then just doesn’t bother

 

[djhotspur]

He started ok but we completely lost control of the midfield in the second quarter and that was down to him and Pape. He trod on the ball to launch one dangerous counter and gave away the ball countless times. Replacing them at HT completely changed the game.

on the goal I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. VDV is absolutely blameless, he picks up his man. Udogie could have done more to track his runner but Bissouma has 5 yards on either of them. If he tracks back he can stop the ball reaching wood, simple as that. There’s even a moment when he sees the danger, thinks about sprinting then just doesn’t bother

He just doesnt have the defensive instincts sadly. The amount of times he's ambling back when teams are countering us

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

He started ok but we completely lost control of the midfield in the second quarter and that was down to him and Pape. He trod on the ball to launch one dangerous counter and gave away the ball countless times. Replacing them at HT completely changed the game.

on the goal I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. VDV is absolutely blameless, he picks up his man. Udogie could have done more to track his runner but Bissouma has 5 yards on either of them. If he tracks back he can stop the ball reaching wood, simple as that. There’s even a moment when he sees the danger, thinks about sprinting then just doesn’t bother

Fairly sure he didn’t give the ball away countless times. Just that high ball that he tried to control that he sort of stood on. That was it as far as I remember. Haven’t checked any stats but, be surprised if it’s more than two unforced turnovers.

VDV sells himself and takes himself out of the game. Hard to blame him, but the man on the ball is not the danger from that position and the balls not on in behind if he holds his ground. The goals not scored imo. Three or four players could have done better.

 

[SlotBadger]

Incredibly poor.

I’d say 80% of Bissouma’s performances this season have been similar, and I’ve no idea why Ange started him today.

 

[tobi]

He hasn't been the same since he got sent off away at Luton.

Peaking ten games into a season is concerning.

 

[thebenjamin]

I don't think we've really played well since Bissouma played well

 

[yankspurs]

Incredibly poor.

I’d say 80% of Bissouma’s performances this season have been similar, and I’ve no idea why Ange started him today.

Ange has made it clear he will only play players he views as having a future here. Which is concerning because Bissouma should be the first one to be sold this summer.

 

[yankspurs]

I don't think we've really played well since Bissouma played well

We haven’t played well largely because we’ve been found out. Has nothing to do with Bissouma.

 

[Chimbo!]

I hate to say it as I’ve been a big fan of Bissouma but his poor form has gone on too long. He should be dropped. But tbh his replacement, Hobjerg, doesn’t fill with me confidence either.

 

[THFC_SWE]

I hate to say it as I’ve been a big fan of Bissouma but his poor form has gone on too long. He should be dropped. But tbh his replacement, Hobjerg, doesn’t fill with me confidence either.

Höjbjerg is not perfect, but he tries to be more progressive with his passing. And we need that. Bissouma is just giving away the responsibility to someone else by making short sideway passes. As it is now, Höjbjerg should start.

 

[spurs-r-us]

There's no scientific answer. He's been poor or injured for 18 months with a six game decent patch. The fact that Ange plays him ahead of Sarr is disgraceful. Clearly just willing him to be good.

 

[nav007_2000]

Time to get rid. In 2 seasons he has had probably two good months at most.
We need an upgrade

 

[Misfit]

The worst that could happen at this point is someone else plays and stinks the place up as badly. There's basically no upside to playing him anymore.

 

[GlosYid]

He hasn't been the same since he got sent off away at Luton.

Peaking ten games into a season is concerning.

He was banned in the 8th game of the season. The 10 games is a myth.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

The worst that could happen at this point is someone else plays and stinks the place up as badly. There's basically no upside to playing him anymore.

Agree, he's become the new Jenas, Dele, Dier no matter what happens, everything is now his fault.
Udogie, Romero, Son and Maddison have been equally culpable in recent weeks, Udogie has been directly at fault for a few goals recently but everyone is looking for Bissouma's role in any incident.

 

[Misfit]

Agree, he's become the new Jenas, Dele, Dier no matter what happens, everything is now his fault.
Udogie, Romero, Son and Maddison have been equally culpable in recent weeks, Udogie has been directly at fault for a few goals recently but everyone is looking for Bissouma's role in any incident.

He's been anonymous for weeks now.

You go off though king.

 

[arunspurs]

Agree, he's become the new Jenas, Dele, Dier no matter what happens, everything is now his fault.
Udogie, Romero, Son and Maddison have been equally culpable in recent weeks, Udogie has been directly at fault for a few goals recently but everyone is looking for Bissouma's role in any incident.

Well, difference is....
You can fault Udogie, Romero, Son, Maddison, VDV for a bad game or 2.
Bissouma has been at fault for majority of the season - His casual play been there since start of season. He has been casual and got sent off twice. Got nearly sent off today. Start of season, he didnt give away balls this much. Since his first sending off ,he has been consistently poor and continuously been poor.

Its not like Bissouma is being made a scapegoat. If everyone is calling him out specifically, that probably correct.