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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

kmk

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Yea I think Mahrez is probably the most deserving, especially if they win the league

Toby and Payet are up there too though

From a spurs point of view Kane has been excellent too considering he's managed to pretty much reproduce his amazing first season form in a notoriously tough second season after a break through

And Dier and Alli have been excellent and must be in with a shout for the young player award

I'm glad that no Arse,Chelski,Utd,Citeh or Liverpool player deserves to be amongst the. POTY candidates apart from Mesut Ëyezil.
 

SPURSLIFE

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In fairness, I think that if Leicester win the league, the prize should go to Mahrez. They simply would not have done it without him. If we win it, though, Alderweireld should be the standout candidate. It really is a shame that the voting is done with so many games yet to play.
I think Mahrez has been outstanding for Leicester but their player of the season has to be Vardy with the number of goals he has scored for them .
 

Luka Van der Bale

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I think Mahrez has been outstanding for Leicester but their player of the season has to be Vardy with the number of goals he has scored for them .
Take it you haven't watched them very much? Mahrez has been everything for them - their inspiration and their best player by an astronomical distance.
 

Riandor

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I love everything about this team so far... Kane's continued prowess, the emergence of Alli, Lamela finding form, Lloris simply being Lloris, Dier a gem of a find, etc...

But quite frankly if Toby does not at least win our own Player of the Year awards it will be an absolute travesty. Hands down the best signing we made and an absolute ROCK, to the point where I expect Dwayne Johnson to call him up asking for tips.
 

ClintEastwould

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This guy is pretty much flawless. Almost redefining what it is I believe a great center half is.

Cue a hat trick of own goals in his next match
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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This guy is pretty much flawless. Almost redefining what it is I believe a great center half is.

Definitely. I think his best attributes are his immense concentration levels and brilliant reading of the game. How none of the elite teams signed him ahead of us is beyond me.
 

Thfc15

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The earlier pages of this thread are proof that none of us really know what we are talking about.

Some saying they'd rather keep Fazio instead of purchase Toby.

I think its the way many posters put across their points with such certainty and arrogance, when really they're just spouting sh*te.

Just my two cents!
 

Everlasting Seconds

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The earlier pages of this thread are proof that none of us really know what we are talking about.

Some saying they'd rather keep Fazio instead of purchase Toby.

I think its the way many posters put across their points with such certainty and arrogance, when really they're just spouting sh*te.

Just my two cents!
Alderweireld works, and I'm super amazed. It's crazy good stuff. But I think it was a valid assessment at the time that we didn't need him. Why?

Because he would have been fucked as a Spurs defender last season, and that's what I based my assumptions on.

Alderweireld works best when he is part of a strong, coherent unit with team spirit. He'll never be the weak link if in a well tuned machinery. We didn't have that machinery last season, we had the opposite. No player played for the other guys, and the CMs were utter shite at shielding the defence.

This season, all is opposite. The kids play for each other. The CMs (Dier) makes being a defender a joyride. Vertonghen (lately Wimmer) and Alderweireld really has a joint system.

Basically everything Alderweireld needs.

This is not to negate Alderweireld's qualities. They are plenty. He is almost as good as Vertonghen.
But if I had know last summer how we would play this season, I would have been far happier signing him.
 

NEVILLEB

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The earlier pages of this thread are proof that none of us really know what we are talking about.

Some saying they'd rather keep Fazio instead of purchase Toby.

I think its the way many posters put across their points with such certainty and arrogance, when really they're just spouting sh*te.

Just my two cents!

Spot on
 

tooey

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Alderweireld works, and I'm super amazed. It's crazy good stuff. But I think it was a valid assessment at the time that we didn't need him. Why?

Because he would have been fucked as a Spurs defender last season, and that's what I based my assumptions on.

Alderweireld works best when he is part of a strong, coherent unit with team spirit. He'll never be the weak link if in a well tuned machinery. We didn't have that machinery last season, we had the opposite. No player played for the other guys, and the CMs were utter shite at shielding the defence.

This season, all is opposite. The kids play for each other. The CMs (Dier) makes being a defender a joyride. Vertonghen (lately Wimmer) and Alderweireld really has a joint system.

Basically everything Alderweireld needs.

This is not to negate Alderweireld's qualities. They are plenty. He is almost as good as Vertonghen.
But if I had know last summer how we would play this season, I would have been far happier signing him.

A bit chicken and egg though, without Toby do you think we'd have such a cohesive unit? Whilst I agree that Dier has provided the cover so desperately needed last year when we played the Mason/Bentaleb combo, I can't help but think that without Toby we wouldn't be fighting for top spot in March. I wasn't convinced when we signed him, but I, like everybody else on SC, don't know what I'm talking about really.
 

Thfc15

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Alderweireld works, and I'm super amazed. It's crazy good stuff. But I think it was a valid assessment at the time that we didn't need him. Why?

Because he would have been fucked as a Spurs defender last season, and that's what I based my assumptions on.

Alderweireld works best when he is part of a strong, coherent unit with team spirit. He'll never be the weak link if in a well tuned machinery. We didn't have that machinery last season, we had the opposite. No player played for the other guys, and the CMs were utter shite at shielding the defence.

This season, all is opposite. The kids play for each other. The CMs (Dier) makes being a defender a joyride. Vertonghen (lately Wimmer) and Alderweireld really has a joint system.

Basically everything Alderweireld needs.

This is not to negate Alderweireld's qualities. They are plenty. He is almost as good as Vertonghen.
But if I had know last summer how we would play this season, I would have been far happier signing him.

Sorry it wasnt just aimed at that particular quote. The point i was trying to make is that none of us really know as much as we make out on here.

I remember when Musacchio was the talk. Why was it so certain amongst fans that hes exactly what we need and hes the CB we are dying for. Lets be honest, whats he doing now?

Ive tried to make a similar point on here re fatigue lately and how i think everyone is bandwagoning on the suggestion that our players are knackered. I havent seen any signs of it myself and believe that Poch and the team have a far better knowledge of it than any of us on here.
 

danielneeds

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Sorry it wasnt just aimed at that particular quote. The point i was trying to make is that none of us really know as much as we make out on here.

I remember when Musacchio was the talk. Why was it so certain amongst fans that hes exactly what we need and hes the CB we are dying for. Lets be honest, whats he doing now?

Ive tried to make a similar point on here re fatigue lately and how i think everyone is bandwagoning on the suggestion that our players are knackered. I havent seen any signs of it myself and believe that Poch and the team have a far better knowledge of it than any of us on here.
To be fair, the lad has had terrible luck with injuries.
 

Bobbins

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The earlier pages of this thread are proof that none of us really know what we are talking about.

Some saying they'd rather keep Fazio instead of purchase Toby.

I think its the way many posters put across their points with such certainty and arrogance, when really they're just spouting sh*te.

Just my two cents!

When you say "none of us really know what we are talking about", that rather presumes that "none of us" wanted Toby - some of us very much did want him (and I honestly didn't think we'd get him - thought he was too good for us).
 

Bobbins

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I absolutely loved this update on the BBC live text on Sunday, and the Get Carter reference!

Aston Villa 0-2 Tottenham
Posted at 80 mins

Rudy Gestede is a big man, but for Toby Alderweireld this is a full-time job. The Villa striker looks to turn and get away but meets a brick wall and loses possession. Spurs have been superior in every department today.
 

Flashspur

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Sorry it wasnt just aimed at that particular quote. The point i was trying to make is that none of us really know as much as we make out on here.

I remember when Musacchio was the talk. Why was it so certain amongst fans that hes exactly what we need and hes the CB we are dying for. Lets be honest, whats he doing now?

Ive tried to make a similar point on here re fatigue lately and how i think everyone is bandwagoning on the suggestion that our players are knackered. I havent seen any signs of it myself and believe that Poch and the team have a far better knowledge of it than any of us on here.

I think you are right about Toby being an excellent buy but as others have pointed out, he is playing in a settled team with better protection from Dier and Dembele when the latter has played pivot. Its a far cry from the holes left by Mason and Benteleb last season. Nevertheless his reading of the game and his coolness under pressure has added a dimension we lacked.

I think Toby was a fantastic buy and Poch and his team know best. I was not in favour of Alderwierled and I am willingly eating my words now.
 

Ironskullll

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The earlier pages of this thread are proof that none of us really know what we are talking about.

Some saying they'd rather keep Fazio instead of purchase Toby.

I think its the way many posters put across their points with such certainty and arrogance, when really they're just spouting sh*te.

Just my two cents!

Amen to that and it's really getting on my nerves. It's one thing to have an opinion but another thing entirely to ram it down everyone's throats and to scorn every opinion that might be different. There's a lot of posters that do that, several of whom end up painting themselves into a corner, by which time if they weren't spouting shite to start with they are at the end.
 

SPURSLIFE

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Take it you haven't watched them very much? Mahrez has been everything for them - their inspiration and their best player by an astronomical distance.
I agree Mahrez has been phenomanel for them and has played a massive part in their being at the top but Vardys goals have contributed even more.Don't forget when Mahrez was injured for a few weeks Vardy was still banging them in.
So I don't agree.
 

Shadydan

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Mahrez has contributed to Leicester's season more than Vardy I'd say, Mahrez is the best player in the league this season.
 

Hoddle_Ledge

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"Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang storms through on goal, only to be denied by a superb last-gasp block by Toby Alderweireld. The Belgian then schoolboys Lukasz Piszczek with a Marseilles turn on the edge of his own area.

Nice, but better when you are winning 4-0 on aggregate Toby...."
 
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